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[ThunderHead]

Also, this is a very strict rumor:

I had heard this past weekend that Coach Jim Cole is starting to wind down in his coaching years, and has not been real motivated to do a lot this past year....the word is he may be down to his last year as a coach....

But again, this is a rumor....

I don't much care for rumors - because so often they don't do anyone any good. This said though,  are you suggesting that Alma is an easy out this season or that they are not concerned about doing the things winning programs do? I'm not sure what your getting at, unless you are just giving us a heads up that soon enough Alma will be bringing in new blood.

I'm kinda surprised it would go down like that, isn't the Lester kid in line for the starting QB job? Obviously Lester Sr has a solid football background, I'm surprised he would let sub-par be the standard when it's his kid playing. - Just some thoughts.

Go Trine!!!

[Flying Dutchman56]

For our Alma fans out there - is Josh Brehm still playing over in Europe? 

How about our Adrian followers - is Taz Wallace or Mike Lewis playing anywhere?  I knew they both were in some indoor football leagues for a few years after college?

Thanks!

[sflzman]

For our Alma fans out there - is Josh Brehm still playing over in Europe? 

How about our Adrian followers - is Taz Wallace or Mike Lewis playing anywhere?  I knew they both were in some indoor football leagues for a few years after college?

Thanks!

Not sure about Brehm. But Double-Mac (Mackenzie McGray) is.....

[sflzman]

Also, this is a very strict rumor:

I had heard this past weekend that Coach Jim Cole is starting to wind down in his coaching years, and has not been real motivated to do a lot this past year....the word is he may be down to his last year as a coach....

But again, this is a rumor....

I don't much care for rumors - because so often they don't do anyone any good. This said though,  are you suggesting that Alma is an easy out this season or that they are not concerned about doing the things winning programs do? I'm not sure what your getting at, unless you are just giving us a heads up that soon enough Alma will be bringing in new blood.

I'm kinda surprised it would go down like that, isn't the Lester kid in line for the starting QB job? Obviously Lester Sr has a solid football background, I'm surprised he would let sub-par be the standard when it's his kid playing. - Just some thoughts.

Go Trine!!!

Not suggesting that at all, and with the wide receiver recruits that are supposed to be coming in, the good QB, and the defense returning as many starters as they are we should be a very good contender.

I beleive the coach cole situation (if there is one) is similar to how "Coach G" went out as the WBB coach - loves coaching, but the recruiting and spending the countless hours needed to contend is not what he wants to do anymore......

[ThunderHead]

Also, this is a very strict rumor:

I had heard this past weekend that Coach Jim Cole is starting to wind down in his coaching years, and has not been real motivated to do a lot this past year....the word is he may be down to his last year as a coach....

But again, this is a rumor....

I don't much care for rumors - because so often they don't do anyone any good. This said though,  are you suggesting that Alma is an easy out this season or that they are not concerned about doing the things winning programs do? I'm not sure what your getting at, unless you are just giving us a heads up that soon enough Alma will be bringing in new blood.

I'm kinda surprised it would go down like that, isn't the Lester kid in line for the starting QB job? Obviously Lester Sr has a solid football background, I'm surprised he would let sub-par be the standard when it's his kid playing. - Just some thoughts.

Go Trine!!!

Not suggesting that at all, and with the wide receiver recruits that are supposed to be coming in, the good QB, and the defense returning as many starters as they are we should be a very good contender.

I beleive the coach cole situation (if there is one) is similar to how "Coach G" went out as the WBB coach - loves coaching, but the recruiting and spending the countless hours needed to contend is not what he wants to do anymore......

AHHHH - I see. That makes much more sense to me. Thanks for clearing that up. I just wasn't initially sure where you were headed sflzman. But good stuff as always.

Go Trine!!! Have a happy mothers day fellas. 

[Uncle Rico]

I think the point was more that UM and MSU aren't exactly going directly head-to-head for players, and when they have Michigan has won those battles more frequently.   Even in the one year MSU definitively had the upper hand in this State they were even head-to-head.  THAT is contradictory to the "MSU is dominating in-state recruiting theories".

Both schools have done a very good job outside the state, but both have lost a lot of good football players from Michigan who chose to go elsewhere.   Ingrahm, Barksdale, Ronald Johnson----Bama, LSU and USC, all 3 drafted in the NFL.

The difference between the programs seems to be the players that have come from out-of-state.

3-0 has much more to do with complete and utter defensive coaching incompetence from one of these schools than any big difference in talent.

Thunderhead, as much as I got your back supporting Trine, SAC has you on the ropes.  I can't fault you one bit for all the anti-Michigan rhetoric.  That much msu disappointment through all these years was bound to result in the huge pent up release of anti-Wolverine venom.  Three years of success does not erase the 30+ game dominance and TRADITION of Michigan over msu.  Disastrous outcomes vs. Iowa and Alabama confirm that msu has risen to above-500 status but still can't seal the deal.  The only reason there was a shared Big 10 title was msu lucked out on not playing Dantonio's mentor from that cheating team in Columbus.      Enjoy this brief moment of sunshine, you have waited a long time for it, but deep down you need to prepare yourself for the inevitable doom that will once again rise forth from Ann Arbor.

[Mr. Ypsi]

You tell 'em, Uncle Rico!

The South (well, more east than south, but still about 30 miles south) Shall Rise Again!

(Geez, am I rooting for Michigan or Ole Miss? )

Memo to all: I'll put it on the record that Brady Hoke was my first choice all along (EVEN when Jim Harbaugh was thought to be available, though that was a close call).  Coach Hoke, please don't throw me under the bus!   My reputation is in your (hopefully capable) hands.

[sac]

It wasn't my intention to create some verbal sparring or anything.......I thought the two pieces written about recruiting were pretty interesting and timely.  Just thought I'd pass them on during the off-season.

I'll refrain from posting the piece on how 'Stars do matter', also an interesting read but has more to do with NFL draft chances.  There's also a good read on which conferences develop players for the NFL with a few surprising results.


by the way......more trouble for OSU   http://www.freep.com/article/20110507/SPORTS08/110507009/Report-Ohio-State-launches-new-probe-into-players-car-deals?odyssey=mod|   

The picture the Freep used is just classic.  If they ever had independent investigations instead of relying on schools to police themselves, OSU would be screwed.  I'm sure they'll sidestep this one as well.



Freep with another brief article about Michigan's current in-state recruiting efforts, which can only be described as impressive.  The Ojemudia in the article committed to UM today which brings the total to 5 in-state recruits.  The 'experts' expect UM to land 8 of the 10 in-state kids they offered and all 8 could end up in the top 10 for the state next year.

http://www.freep.com/article/20110504/SPORTS06/110503054


PS  MSU was expecting to get all 3 of the really good Farmington Hills Harrison kids, so far 2 of the 3 picked Michigan and the last Burbridge is reportedly leaning toward UM.  The 'experts' had them as Sparty locks.

[ThunderHead]

Wow - so I check the board from my blackberry, not expecting any of you bums   to be on or posting, and what do you know - apparently there was a party and I missed the memo.

Now for record sake, just because I take the side of anti-U of M doesn't mean I'm pro-MSU. I'm actually a a Boilermaker fan, and we don't have much to brag about. Still - I get sick of the arrogant pricks that call themselves U of M fans and somehow take responsibility for their success. (not you guys)

SO, for you delusional blue bellies - first off, the star systems a joke, I'm "lucky" enough to know a few of the Rivals.com national guys, and a few from ESPN Rise as well, none of them think the "stars" are really worth much other then to the fans, which subscriptions need. So they indulge us, and yet 1) - it's writers who mainly submit the votes, 2) - for a kid to score high, in the 4 or 5 star area, he must have multiple confirmed D1 offers most of the time. Now seriously, how hard do you fellas suppose it is to "guess" a kid with 22 offers from big time programs is a good recruit? Yet the fans love it. We have four 5 star kids....blah blah blah.

Further more, I know a few college coaches at the D1 level who could give two craps about how many stars a kid has (and yes, I've asked), they believe in their own evaluations and it has nothing to do what some sports writers on the internet think. They know if they don't land a single 4 star kid but win the conference championship a few times, plus a few bowl games, they'll get a statue. On the other hand they're equally aware they could land all 5 star guys, and lose consistently, and they're fired. They always stay true to themselves. Always.

All this aside, if I was a big time recruit, say out of farmington hills harrison, of course I would want to go to Michigan. They aren't that good! You could go play four years, that isn't going to happen at MSU, they have a lot of talent on the field and plenty in the barrel. And while the last 3 years may not erase 30 years of football to old folks like us, it does do a number on recruits, who really only care about what you've done lately. Unless - as I'm sure Coach Hoke is pushing - you're a guy that can "bring back the glory". Well personally I'd rather "continue the tradition" (MSU) then bring back the glory.

Again, MSU is more talented the scUM at probably 16-18 of the 22 positions on the football field right now, plus special teams.

Mark my words, scUM won't beat MSU for the next two seasons at least, same goes for OSU. Matter of fact, it's gonna be a rough few years of CONFERENCE play for them. Book it dan-O.

To end this debate - which could go on forever, I leave you with this picture below. Something recent, that recruits love, and not from a period of time that can only be remembered in yesteryear.

[Mr. Ypsi]

TH, if U of M doesn't beat either MSU or OSU in the next two years, I've got a steak dinner in your name.  What have you got to offer?

[Raider 68]

It wasn't my intention to create some verbal sparring or anything.......I thought the two pieces written about recruiting were pretty interesting and timely.  Just thought I'd pass them on during the off-season.

I'll refrain from posting the piece on how 'Stars do matter', also an interesting read but has more to do with NFL draft chances.  There's also a good read on which conferences develop players for the NFL with a few surprising results.


by the way......more trouble for OSU   http://www.freep.com/article/20110507/SPORTS08/110507009/Report-Ohio-State-launches-new-probe-into-players-car-deals?odyssey=mod|   

The picture the Freep used is just classic.  If they ever had independent investigations instead of relying on schools to police themselves, OSU would be screwed.  I'm sure they'll sidestep this one as well.



Freep with another brief article about Michigan's current in-state recruiting efforts, which can only be described as impressive.  The Ojemudia in the article committed to UM today which brings the total to 5 in-state recruits.  The 'experts' expect UM to land 8 of the 10 in-state kids they offered and all 8 could end up in the top 10 for the state next year.

http://www.freep.com/article/20110504/SPORTS06/110503054


PS  MSU was expecting to get all 3 of the really good Farmington Hills Harrison kids, so far 2 of the 3 picked Michigan and the last Burbridge is reportedly leaning toward UM.  The 'experts' had them as Sparty locks.

Unfortunately, the hits keep on coming!

[D306]

Wow!!!

Have not been on the board for a little time, and it has blown up

Glad to see the posts and action.

I will stay out of the BS and chatter RE: OSU, UofM and MSU. All I can say is OSU has embarassed the Big Ten and more will come out over the Summer.
Cars are next, just a couple hints in paper today.

UofM will be fine, this year and going forward. Couple years required to turnover the players, way to many small framed "Athletes" for Hoke's system.
The coaching staff and recruit profile Hoke has is based on the profile UofM will continue to recruit. Competitive and clean program ( Stonum suspended, probably never see him again. though they will let him finish school if he does not transfer )

MSU has improved and is building a repeatable profile and legacy. Would Love to see both stay strong for the coming years.

[Uncle Rico]

Maybe we can divert attention away from UM vs msu and direct it somewhere else...

Coach Lou Holtz delivered the commencement address for my son's graduation at Trine yesterday.  Have to admit it was pretty entertaining.  Coach Bobby Knight did it last year.   

Trine has been pretty good at pulling some characters, that is for sure.

[Raider 68]

Maybe we can divert attention away from UM vs msu and direct it somewhere else...

Coach Lou Holtz delivered the commencement address for my son's graduation at Trine yesterday.  Have to admit it was pretty entertaining.  Coach Bobby Knight did it last year.   

Trine has been pretty good at pulling some characters, that is for sure.

Uncle Rico,


Mount Union graduated 480 yesterday as well. How many graduated from Trine . Wish them all best success going foward. Earning that college degree means so much to them and their parents, but it will take a few years to really appreciate the hard work, IMHO!

[formerd3db]

Raider68 and Uncle Rico:

First, congrats to Uncle Rico and LIR on the graduation of your son at Trine.  A great family memory for all of you and wonderful accomplishment for him.  I always recall at graduation time each what it was like for the graduating students - a mixture of emotions; knowing that you are leaving a place that you spent 4 years of your life at - a hard feeling walking around the campus and seeing the old buildings, dorms, etc. for the last time as a student, especially on a beautiful graduation day as this weekend was for both days for many of the colleges; yet also the anticipation, excitement and feeling that "it is just time to go, move on and leave the campus" - perhaps a minor feeling regarding the latter, but nonetheless a "human one".  So for what it's worth, I share that.  Again, congrats to you and any other of our colleagues here who have graduating seniors.

Second, Hope had a record 745 graduating students today - breacking the 718 set in 2007 when our oldest daughter graduated from there.  Obviously, these numbers for any of these DIII schoosl do not reach anywhere near those of the DI schools, but nonetheless, just as exciting and important.

Third, great discussions and activities on our board this weekend guys!  Excellent!  Great debates are fun.  I may have to join Mr. Ypsi in that steak challenge bet to ThunderHead about U of Mich beating MSU!  I know that sac has our backs covered anyway!

Addidas28:  No problems, friend!  It's all good gear - we all just have to support our teams!

Great to have D306 back!

sflzman: Always a great source of inside info for us re: Alma.  Thanks.  We'll keep a "watch on the Coach Cole situation".  However, I don't think that any one of us would fault him (or any of the coaches anywhere in our league who have, say, after some 20+ years in being a head coach (or assistant) would look at "turning the page for a new chapter" in their "book of life".  We all know when and from whom we get that signal.  

Anyway, I wish all of you a great week.   Talk to you later.

formerd3db