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formerd3db

#5520
May 15, 2011, 05:08:04 PM
Raider68:
When did that happen?  I am afraid I am not the one to be able to help you, as much as I'd like to.  I am a "computer illiterate" - remember, you and sflzman were the ones who helped me obtain the Hope helmet picture for my posting profile here.  Perhaps slfzman can help you.  The only suggestion I can think of is for you to start from scratch - take it down and reload it from your source. 

sflzman and others - help please :)!
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

sflzman

#5521
May 15, 2011, 05:31:22 PM
Here is another file of the Mt. Union helmet.....hope this one works, it is the same place I have gotten mine, and the other ones I have posted from:

http://www.alma.edu/repository/athletics/live_stats/mtUFootball.GIF
Be not afraid of greatness - Shakespeare

hopewatcher

#5522
May 15, 2011, 07:33:52 PM
I have what may be a silly question related to the discussion about equity in the number of sports and Title IX.....For some reason I thought Title IX only applied to institutions that received Federal Aid and that it reuired equal opportunity, not an equal number of teams....so, for example, the test for Division I teams, would be equal scholoarship opportunites for men and women, and equal teatment of teams (equipment, travel, facilities etc)....I'm sure its more complicated than that, but the reason that I am asking is that the conversation is related to number of teams for men and women for Division III schools .....is that a legal/NCAA requirement (i.e. equality is measured in number of teams for each gender) or is it schools meeting a fairness obligation in providing equal opportunities?......Please understand that I am in favor of equal opportunities, but the answer may shape the reasons and timing for adding sports, or having to add them in 'pairs'......so, would Calvin be required to add a wonen's team if they added football...could they add 100 more women's opportunities, or would they only need to consider adding women's opportunities in the spirit of fairness? I may have all of this wrong, but was just wondering......

Raider 68

#5523
May 15, 2011, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: sflzman on May 15, 2011, 05:31:22 PM
Here is another file of the Mt. Union helmet.....hope this one works, it is the same place I have gotten mine, and the other ones I have posted from:

http://www.alma.edu/repository/athletics/live_stats/mtUFootball.GIF

slfzman,

Thanks so much for your help! :)
13 time Division III National Champions

Flying Dutchman56

#5524
May 16, 2011, 06:31:30 AM
Hope Football's 2011 pre-season roster has been updated.

http://www.hope.edu/pr/athletics/fb/

The 2011 Freshman class looks solid with good numbers, some big name high schools represented, and some nice size as well!  I can't wait to see these guys develope over the next 4 years!
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sac

#5525
May 16, 2011, 08:13:08 AM
Quote from: Flying Dutchman56 on May 16, 2011, 06:31:30 AM
Hope Football's 2011 pre-season roster has been updated.

http://www.hope.edu/pr/athletics/fb/

The 2011 Freshman class looks solid with good numbers, some big name high schools represented, and some nice size as well!  I can't wait to see these guys develope over the next 4 years!

If these guys stick, Hope has significantly increased its out of state representation.  I got a quick count of 10 from the Frosh.




Also, Hope now has 3 kids from the same town of Twin Lake.........all 3 went to different high schools.  (Holton, Musk. Reeths-Puffer, Whitehall)

God bless school of choice.

Joe Wally

#5526
May 16, 2011, 08:14:28 AM
Quote from: Flying Dutchman56 on May 16, 2011, 06:31:30 AM
Hope Football's 2011 pre-season roster has been updated.

http://www.hope.edu/pr/athletics/fb/

The 2011 Freshman class looks solid with good numbers, some big name high schools represented, and some nice size as well!  I can't wait to see these guys develope over the next 4 years!

Best of luck this Fall, Dutch!

Raider 68

#5527
May 16, 2011, 08:59:43 AM
Quote from: formerd3db on May 15, 2011, 05:08:04 PM
Raider68:
When did that happen?  I am afraid I am not the one to be able to help you, as much as I'd like to.  I am a "computer illiterate" - remember, you and sflzman were the ones who helped me obtain the Hope helmet picture for my posting profile here.  Perhaps slfzman can help you.  The only suggestion I can think of is for you to start from scratch - take it down and reload it from your source. 

sflzman and others - help please :)!


formerd3db,

I first used an URL from Mtunionfooball.com, but since Ric is no longer
keeping the site going ( It was great while it lasted, Ric did  a great job),
It did not work, then I tried Helmet Project, but the image was flattened, but sflzman saved the day! ;D +k for your efforts as well! :)
13 time Division III National Champions

ThunderHead

#5528
May 16, 2011, 12:52:47 PM
Hey all,

Hope everyone had a great weekend. I did check out the Hope roster, and while I don't know anything about any of the kids coming in to Hope, it seems the Hope people think it's a good class. That's great for the conference as more athletes look at D3 football as a viable place to continue their playing career.

Go Trine!!!
Education is what you get from reading the small print. Experience is what you get from not reading it.

formerd3db

#5529
May 16, 2011, 04:00:53 PM
Raider68:
Glad sflzman was able to help you out.  You are back to normal now! ;D  BTW, I didn't realize that Ric is no longer doing his Mount Union football website.  That is a shame because he did a fantastic job - it was excellent.  Did he just decide it was too much work?  If that was the case, I certainly understand.

Also, to all:

For sure, the Hope pre-season roster looks promising.  There are some larger linemen it appears, of which we can certainly use the help.  Yet, as I'm sure you will all agree, it will remain to be seen how much such freshman lineman might be able to help/contribute immediately.  Even at the small college level, it is a huge step up from the h.s. game in that regard.  I also noticed there were a couple of QB recruits with good size.  Perhaps we might have a QB competition going on for the starting position?  Although, as sflzaman has previously pointed out, it is difficult for freshman to steop in immediately, yet once in awhile, you will have one that can.  Anyway, we'll have to see what transpires with all of this.
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

formerd3db

#5530
May 16, 2011, 04:03:29 PM
Quote from: Joe Wally on May 16, 2011, 08:14:28 AM
Quote from: Flying Dutchman56 on May 16, 2011, 06:31:30 AM
Hope Football's 2011 pre-season roster has been updated.

http://www.hope.edu/pr/athletics/fb/

The 2011 Freshman class looks solid with good numbers, some big name high schools represented, and some nice size as well!  I can't wait to see these guys develope over the next 4 years!

Best of luck this Fall, Dutch!

Thanks, Joe Wally. Same to your "Bash for this year! :) Thanks for participating on our board also.  I occasionally do over on yours as well. ;D
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

formerd3db

#5531
May 16, 2011, 04:07:06 PM Last Edit: May 16, 2011, 04:09:14 PM by formerd3db
hopewatcher:
Welcome to the MIAA board.  You join another "newbe" Hope poster FD56.  Regarding your question, I should know the answer to that, however, I don't recall right now regarding the exact wording.  DI is probably slightly different as you have mentioned.  I believe, however, that at DIII, the number of sports offered has to be equal for both men and women (doesn't have to be the same sport offered i.e. for example a college could add women's field hockey and men's lacrosse, etc.).  Perhaps some of our more informed/more astute posters can help us out here.  I don't have a copy of the NCAA manual at my perusal right at the moment.  Anyone? ???

ThunderHead:

Hope's recruits (at least on paper) seem to be promising. We'll need that consistently to get back to the level we used to be at, to again challenge (and beat ;D) your Trine guys!
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

sflzman

#5532
May 16, 2011, 04:27:26 PM
Yes, you're right with the last statement.

The number of sports have to be even, but the sports not alike.

Alma innitially couldn't find a Wlax coach, and there was talk about adding competitive cheer instead....

So the new sports could have been:
Men
Wrestling
Lax
Women
Cheer
Bowling


But, that has been avoided and there is lacrosse instead of cheer like originally planned.
Be not afraid of greatness - Shakespeare

ThunderHead

#5533
May 16, 2011, 05:33:24 PM
FormerD3er,

Glad that you're happy with the incoming recruits. And there would be nothing I would enjoy more then seeing the MIAA improve, including Hope. I don't like watching blowouts and think that one sided scores are not good for our brand of football. (and by this I am not speaking of just Trine, I'm talking about any game any where)

At Trine we also will have a QB battle, as well as with several other spots. All in all though, I'm confident the coaches will do what is necessary to stay on top of the MIAA and make a serious run at a National Championship within the next few years.

Go Trine!!!
Education is what you get from reading the small print. Experience is what you get from not reading it.

Uncle Rico

#5534
May 19, 2011, 02:32:07 PM
Quote from: sac on May 06, 2011, 02:26:39 PM
I think the point was more that UM and MSU aren't exactly going directly head-to-head for players, and when they have Michigan has won those battles more frequently.   Even in the one year MSU definitively had the upper hand in this State they were even head-to-head.  THAT is contradictory to the "MSU is dominating in-state recruiting theories".

Both schools have done a very good job outside the state, but both have lost a lot of good football players from Michigan who chose to go elsewhere.   Ingrahm, Barksdale, Ronald Johnson----Bama, LSU and USC, all 3 drafted in the NFL.

The difference between the programs seems to be the players that have come from out-of-state.

3-0 has much more to do with complete and utter defensive coaching incompetence from one of these schools than any big difference in talent.

Nice article here that confirms some of your observations, SAC   

http://detnews.com/article/20110519/SPORTS0201/105190355

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