FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[formerd3db]

Thanks for the comparison info, ThunderHead.  Also, glad to see you back posting.  For sure, the summer is passing by all too quickly.  BTW, when does your upcoming move/relocation take place?

[ThunderHead]

formerd3db,

No problem on the comparison regarding D1 and D3 testing and conditioning. Again, that's just my experience, I'm sure there are plenty of counter examples.

I move mid-August, which was delayed from mid-July (18th).

I know some guys at Arizona, so they've taken care of me ticket wise, and I'm sure I'll be spending more then a few Saturdays watching the Nick Foles and the Wildcats.

I will miss my Trine Thunder, but will pick them up via the streaming audio at 9am or 10am. I guess it will make good tailgating audio.

How about you, you gearing up for the season.

Go Trine!!!

[BOYA87]

anyone here about K-zoo's recent bid awarded to build their new football stadium and fieldhouse?!  I received an email on it at work but I am unable to find a good link with pictures and information about it.  Looks like a great facility when all is said and done and will include baseball, softball, and soccer in the renovations as well.

[sflzman]

Their home games this year are going to be played at WMU

[Raider 68]

Their home games this year are going to be played at WMU

That will be easy, just go up the street!

[sflzman]

Their home games this year are going to be played at WMU

That will be easy, just go up the street!

Yes. Not much of a geographical change at all - that stadiums going to look like there's no-one there!!!

[sac]

Have they decided on what to do with the Kzoo/Alma game on Oct 29?

Western is hosting Ball State that afternoon at 2pm.


On Sept 17, WMU is hosting CMU at noon, Kzoo will play Rose-Hulman that night.  Always a fun day to hang around the WMU campus.

[hazzben]

It's not a matter of "lowing standards" per say, as much as it is adjusting your standards to fit your athletes and get the most out of them where they're at.

Anyway - just my experience and two cents when it comes to the difference in conditioning programs. Overall the goal is to push a guy to be the best he can be, if you've got guy who can breeze through his mile at 6:30 mark, in my book, his time needs to be adjusted to push his personal pace. Again though, that's the advantage a D1 program has, with a dedicated staff, each player is reviewed constantly by a staff not worried about "football game prep" regarding the athletes overall ability and how it can be improved in regards to strength and conditioning.

Yeah, I'd say that's pretty accurate. Back when my dad was playing they still did 1 mile timed runs during camp. He was an All-America o-lineman who qualified for the state track meet in HS so the coach always made him run his mile with the RB's! He hated it, but it made sense too.

At Bethel we'd do conditioning runs across the practice fields (two 50 yd fields set side by side). You'd typically have to go down-back-down, or down-back-down-back for an unknown number of reps. The coaches knew who should be outclassing their position guys and would typically expect LB's to catch the slower RB's and WR's in the group that had started a few seconds before them, etc. I loved it. It built position cohesiveness and was a great competitive motivator. You know the upperclassmen at each position were hounding the slower guys not to get passed by anyone from another position.

Personally, I thought the best part was that the running usually didn't end until a player beat a coach at some pre-determined competition. The players usually got to pick their representative and then the coaches would announce the contest. Maybe throwing a football 35-40 yards and seeing who got it closest to a pre-determined target, etc. We loved it as players and it built up that need to be mentally tough when you were tired or the pain just kept coming. Man, I miss doing stuff like that!

[sflzman]

Have they decided on what to do with the Kzoo/Alma game on Oct 29?

Western is hosting Ball State that afternoon at 2pm.


On Sept 17, WMU is hosting CMU at noon, Kzoo will play Rose-Hulman that night.  Always a fun day to hang around the WMU campus.

The talk as of right now is the alma game will be played at 7 or 8 that night....but they have also talked about moving locations, so i don't know....

it's supposed to be worked out this week

[ThunderHead]

Interesting they're going to play at WMU, from the road the stadium isn't very impressive, but once inside and on the field, it really has a big time feel.

I haven't been to a WMU in while, so I'm not sure - does WMU fill the place during the season?

Go Trine!!!

[formerd3db]

Interesting they're going to play at WMU, from the road the stadium isn't very impressive, but once inside and on the field, it really has a big time feel.

I haven't been to a WMU in while, so I'm not sure - does WMU fill the place during the season?

Go Trine!!!

That will be a neat experience for them playing in WMU's Waldo Stadium, even though it will be quite empty.  Many years ago, Kazoo used to scrimmage WMU on occasion.  In regards to your question, WMU doesn't fill the place during the season, unfortunately.  If I recall correctly, a couple years ago or so on the last game of the season for the MIAA,  Hope outdrew them in having over some 3,000 people at their game while the same day, WMU was hosting EMU and had a lesser crowd.  Quite sad for DI programs. 

[BOYA87]

wow that is sad! I cant imagine how disheartening that could be playing for a DI program with a big stadium that barely has anyone in it!  I know our MIAA stadiums cant seat hoards of people but I would much rather play in from of 4000 with a couple hundred in standing room only rather than play in from of maybe 6 thousand with tons of empy seating!

I love the DIII atmosphere!

[Raider 68]

Interesting they're going to play at WMU, from the road the stadium isn't very impressive, but once inside and on the field, it really has a big time feel.

I haven't been to a WMU in while, so I'm not sure - does WMU fill the place during the season?

Go Trine!!!

That will be a neat experience for them playing in WMU's Waldo Stadium, even though it will be quite empty.  Many years ago, Kazoo used to scrimmage WMU on occasion.  In regards to your question, WMU doesn't fill the place during the season, unfortunately.  If I recall correctly, a couple years ago or so on the last game of the season for the MIAA,  Hope outdrew them in having over some 3,000 people at their game while the same day, WMU was hosting EMU and had a lesser crowd.  Quite sad for DI programs.  

When we lived in the area, WMU never did really draw. Maybe it was their uniforms back then and the fact that
they were not a top tier MAC team, but nor is EMU and their attendance is at the same level. Glad D3 teams
do as well as they can, but have much less to cover in terms of athletic budgets! A winning reputation does help solve attendance issues, however!

[Flying Dutch Fan]

I love the DIII atmosphere!

We truly are fortunate with the fan support in the MIAA.  We have great attendance for many sports, including top 20 in the nation for the sports below, both as individual schools and as a conference (from NCAA stats):

Football - Trine (#8), MIAA (#12)
Men's Soccer - Hope (#2)
Volleyball - Hope (#1), MIAA (#3)
Men's Basketball - Hope (#1), Calvin (#3), MIAA (#1)
Women's Basketball - Hope (#1), Calvin (#8), MIAA (#2)
Softball - Alma (#9)

[sac]

Western draws below 20,000 (in the 15-20 range) for every home game except Central Michigan.  They have dwindling attendance as the weather turns colder and drew just over 8,000 for their last game which brought the avg for the season under 15,000.    The CMU game will almost always be near or close to a full house.


Western's 6 homes last year drew 85,530 total........25,000 less than the expected attendance for their first game this year in Ann Arbor.