FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[sflzman]

sflzman:

Nothing against Coach Folske as he is a good man.  However, a pitch counter doesn't quite do it for me and one really needs more than one person doing the attendance count at games (a more organized system of doing it as some colleges do).  I've been to many Alma games for many years in the past at Bahlke Stadium and while I do not put myself out as an expert on attendance estimating (because, admittedly, I have been somewhat off at times), again, I agree with you and I know there were way more than the 1280 people listed as the "official" attendance.  As I mentioned, Balhke sits 4,500 and the home stands were at least 1/2 full, actually, IMO, about 3/4 full by halftime and the early 3rd quarter before some Alma students started "drifting" away as Hope's lead had balooned to 31-0 at that point in the 3rd quarter.

Trust me, we've been saying that for a long time. I guess little battles 

And about the seeting, the stands seat 5,000, and the number d3football.com gets is the compacity we include with standing room, and the places where we could have portable bleachers, if needed, for like an NCAA playoff game, and whatnot.....

sflzman:

Glad you are supporting "the same battle"!   Also, Bahlke's main seating has always been listed at the 4,000-4,500 mark since it's "renovation" i.e. actual new construction back in 1986, however, for sure as you mention, the 5,000 reflects the "higher" capacity for the bigger games.  Before you "came on board", back in the mid-1990's for the title game of Alma vs. Albion (1994 I believe), they have over 8,000 jammed in there (actually, IMO, it was well over 9,000 as I was there).  Back in the late 1960's, with Denny Stolz's (former Alma QB and later Michigan State University Head Coach) Alma title teams, they regularly packed in over 8,000 for home games in the old Bahlke Stadium.  Oops, my apologies to our fellow posters here for my tangent off regarding history of attendance.

I'm sure that was also back when the population of cows in Alma didn't outnumber the population of people! 

[ThunderHead]

Interesting points about the Adrian coach, and you very well could be right, Hargraves may not be afraid at all of getting pulled.

Regardless of how the season pans out, I'll always respectfully disagree with how the Adrian game was handled by the coaches.

And I don't think you have to worry about starting a "our coach is smarter then your coach" argument. The reality is the decision to try someone else was obvious to everyone but a few guys, but those few guys are the one's that make the final call. So that's all that matters.

Needless to say if Ryan drives them down the field a few times and leads a comeback the staff looks like a group geniuses. But when that doesn't happen, they look like, well the opposite of what geniuses are. And to be surprised that people think that way also lacks an understanding of reality. 

Hopefully this weekend isn't the train wreck last weekend was.

FormerD3er: I think there is some relevance to playing a tough early schedule and receiving some credit for that. To me a close lose to Butler or Wheaton is far more beneficial then a win against Bluffton or Manchester. Especially seeing how your ticket into the playoffs is punched with a conference championship.

FF: K+ to you sir. You've been posting well lately and are a welcomed addition to the board.

[formerd3db]

ThunderHead:

You have a point.  However, if that was always the case, then Hope should have been much higher ranked in past years when they played the likes of Wheaton and lost.  The problem I have with some of such polls is there is often no consistency and, obviously, it is opinion of those who do the polling.  But,...that's just part of "the game".  and that's just MO.  

[ThunderHead]

ThunderHead:

You have a point.  However, if that was always the case, then Hope should have been much higher ranked in past years when they played the likes of Wheaton and lost.  The problem I have with some of such polls is there is often no consistency and, obviously, it is opinion of those who do the polling.  But,...that's just part of "the game".  and that's just MO.  

Agreed.

[ForeverFootball]

Hopefully this weekend isn't the train wreck last weekend was.

FF: K+ to you sir. You've been posting well lately and are a welcomed addition to the board.

Hopefully, for Adrian, we have a repeat of the runaway defensive train ride that we had last weekend.

And thanks for the Karma, I believe in it. 

[sac]

I'm sure that was also back when the population of cows in Alma didn't outnumber the population of people! 

I'm pretty sure there has never been a time when the population of cows didn't outnumber the population of people in Alma. 

[Raider 68]

The MIAA Board has really been more active from last year with not only a greater number of posts, but the in-depth quality of  them. Glad to be part of the conversation!

[sflzman]

I'm sure that was also back when the population of cows in Alma didn't outnumber the population of people! 

I'm pretty sure there has never been a time when the population of cows didn't outnumber the population of people in Alma. 

Haha true, but back in the day (before I was here) there was actually a decent number of people in town...

[sac]

I'm sure that was also back when the population of cows in Alma didn't outnumber the population of people! 

I'm pretty sure there has never been a time when the population of cows didn't outnumber the population of people in Alma. 

Haha true, but back in the day (before I was here) there was actually a decent number of people in town...

I was mostly kidding, but thanks to the wonders of the internet I learned two things today.

1)  The number of cattle in Gratiot County is approximately 59,000....human population as of last census approx 42,000. 

2)  78% of the land in Gratiot County is devoted to farms, which makes it the highest in Michigan.  (I find this amazing when you consider all the farming in the 'thumb')

[sac]

Seems like a good week to bust out these beauties


Hope will be going for its 16th consecutive win in this rivalry.

[ForeverFootball]

This is very excited.  Adrian moved into this top 25 poll!
http://www.afca.com/article/article.php?id=1153

[hopewatcher]

This is very excited.  Adrian moved into this top 25 poll!
http://www.afca.com/article/article.php?id=1153

It is very good news...for Adrian and the MIAA...Well deserved based upon the 5-0 record and the decisive win Saturday.....This is going to be fun...there will be some very interesting big games coming up to determine who will win the league...Adrian took a big step to get ahead this past week......

[hopewatcher]

Seems like a good week to bust out these beauties


Hope will be going for its 16th consecutive win in this rivalry.

I'd be careful to not get caught up in past results....This should be a really good football game to watch.....I know they took a tough loss this past week, but Kalamazoo has shown that they are a good team and can beat people...and its another (they all are) big game for Hope...I think Hope can be competitive in this game if they continue to build on the last couple of games and play hardnosed football for 4 qtrs and avoid big play defensive errors...plus they need to get better at eliminating those offensive mistakes...but if they regress, and don't do those things, it could also be painful to watch.
Hope has a number of special promotions scheduleded around this somewhat unusual night game to draw the community in, including a Marching Band! and fireworks after the game, as it is fall break and many students will be gone, so it should be a fun atmosphere.
I'd love to see the Dutch come out really focused and ready to play, continue to build the intensity, improve the execution and, hopefully, compete for the win.....That will be up to the team......We'll see what happens.....Go Hope!

[matblake]

Seems like a good week to bust out these beauties


Hope will be going for its 16th consecutive win in this rivalry.

Anybody know how old those shoes are?  The depictions of the mascots look, shall we say, out of yesteryear.  Hoping they're not from the 70' or 80's.

[sac]

Seems like a good week to bust out these beauties


Hope will be going for its 16th consecutive win in this rivalry.

Anybody know how old those shoes are?  The depictions of the mascots look, shall we say, out of yesteryear.  Hoping they're not from the 70' or 80's.

Its been a long time since I've seen them in person, but I think these are the same as they were when I was in school, late 80's early 90's.