FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[formerd3db]

Actually, it was not Pat.  No definitive answer was in place when I posted last evening (believe me, I know for sure).  As I mentioned, however, at that time (and certainly in the days before) the rumor mill was extremely busy with unofficial and unauthorized information, etc. as it always is in these situations.   Regardless, Stuursma was a good choice.  As noted in the press release, he does have some college coaching experience, so IMO and that of many others, it was among many of the important factors considered, rather than someone who had only high school coaching experience.  Plus, he's "a Hope man"... to play/borrow on that similar phrase used by the University of Michigan when Harbaugh was the choice!

[ElDude]

I'd say Coach Kreps announcing it on Twitter before it was "official" makes it pretty official.

[sac]

I'm really more concerned that I think "taking over at EGR" was a few years ago when it was 16.

[Pat Coleman]

Actually, it was not Pat.  No definitive answer was in place when I posted last evening (believe me, I know for sure).  As I mentioned, however, at that time (and certainly in the days before) the rumor mill was extremely busy with unofficial and unauthorized information, etc. as it always is in these situations.

You can toe the party line all you want but I'm not a big fan when someone comes on here and suggests people should not talk about something -- you probably have seen that from me previously.

I seriously hope that Hope had its decision in place before that and didn't call up its SID on a Sunday night and ask for a news release to be delivered by 8:30 a.m. Monday morning.

[GoKnights68]

Wow, didn't think it'd be him. Tough transition from HS to college ball. It'll be interesting to see how it works out. It's not like they needed a West side guy to get west side kids there since their roster has been packed with them for years but hey, do what ya do Dutchfellas.

I think 7 state championships in 16 seasons, as well as having been a DC and recruiting coordinator for Hope has him pretty well prepped for this.

Agree.  I think he'll be highly successful at Hope.  He's obviously not going to be able to pound the ball and run the ball down teams' throats as much at the college level like he did at EGR, but I think Pete is smart enough to adapt quickly.

Going to be weird not seeing Petey on the sideline at Lowell-EGR games or getting in "disagreements" with the GRC coaches at GRC-EGR games

[sac]

Did Peter run strictly a power offense or did he incorporate spread elements at EGR?

[GoKnights68]

Did Peter run strictly a power offense or did he incorporate spread elements at EGR?

I'd say pretty much always power offense, with the emphasis on utilizing the fullback. 

I would say one of the few criticisms I would have had last year is in the regular season vs Grand Rapids Christian his offense went into a shell in the 2nd half and got stuffed on the run up the middle a bunch , and  they blew a big lead and went on to lose in OT.  His teams in recent years have had some underrated good athletes/play-makers on offense in which I would have "opened it up" a bit more and naturally try some more passing attempts.  But what do I know - Stuursma ended up eventually kicking GRC's ass in the playoffs and taking EGR to the state semi-finals 

Stuursma seems to still be the master of halftime adjustments when push comes to shove, and that's always a big thing in football,    to state the obvious.   

[formerd3db]

Actually, it was not Pat.  No definitive answer was in place when I posted last evening (believe me, I know for sure).  As I mentioned, however, at that time (and certainly in the days before) the rumor mill was extremely busy with unofficial and unauthorized information, etc. as it always is in these situations.

You can toe the party line all you want but I'm not a big fan when someone comes on here and suggests people should not talk about something -- you probably have seen that from me previously.

I seriously hope that Hope had its decision in place before that and didn't call up its SID on a Sunday night and ask for a news release to be delivered by 8:30 a.m. Monday morning.

First, Pat, I never said or advocated that people should not talk about something on here.  What I did say/allude to is that unofficial information and rumor gets leaked all the time, unfortunately, when it really shouldn't-you are well aware of that being in the journalism/media profession.  I nor anyone can't stop that from happening whether it is here or wherever.  Nonetheless, I was voicing my opinion here just like everyone else, yet I am the one who gets bashed for it, just because someone else thinks they know more about it and particularly, when I never voiced my opinion in a vindictive manner towards the others.  I was simply sharing what I knew as much as I could.

Second, (and in regards to ElDude's comment), I don't care if Coach Kreps or anyone else announced it on Twitter or not (and I have a great relationship with him, BTW).  The bottom line and truth is that there was no official final decision at the time of the discussions on this board.  I know much more about what the situation was here and how it went down more than you and/or anyone else who posted here, but was keeping that confidential (and still will) by request as well as from a professional standpoint.  Of course, how Hope wants to handle their situation and announcement is their choice.  Perhaps you may have handled it in a different manner and that is fine.  You, obviously and understandably, are unaware of the background in regards to some of this in the "why" it was handled the way it was and with less release of public information regarding the entire process.  Regardless, I will not share anything more about this, but will stand by my statements.  If you want to call that "toeing the party line", then so be it.  The semantics game is always amusing.

Moving on, I agree with the others in that it will be interesting to see how Stuursma moves the program forward.  He is an excellent coach.  A big challenge is ahead of him, yet I'm sure he is up to it.           

[ElDude]

Actually, it was not Pat.  No definitive answer was in place when I posted last evening (believe me, I know for sure).  As I mentioned, however, at that time (and certainly in the days before) the rumor mill was extremely busy with unofficial and unauthorized information, etc. as it always is in these situations.

You can toe the party line all you want but I'm not a big fan when someone comes on here and suggests people should not talk about something -- you probably have seen that from me previously.

I seriously hope that Hope had its decision in place before that and didn't call up its SID on a Sunday night and ask for a news release to be delivered by 8:30 a.m. Monday morning.

First, Pat, I never said or advocated that people should not talk about something on here.  What I did say/allude to is that unofficial information and rumor gets leaked all the time, unfortunately, when it really shouldn't-you are well aware of that being in the journalism/media profession.  I nor anyone can't stop that from happening whether it is here or wherever.  Nonetheless, I was voicing my opinion here just like everyone else, yet I am the one who gets bashed for it, just because someone else thinks they know more about it and particularly, when I never voiced my opinion in a vindictive manner towards the others.  I was simply sharing what I knew as much as I could.

Second, (and in regards to ElDude's comment), I don't care if Coach Kreps or anyone else announced it on Twitter or not (and I have a great relationship with him, BTW).  The bottom line and truth is that there was no official final decision at the time of the discussions on this board.  I know much more about what the situation was here and how it went down more than you and/or anyone else who posted here, but was keeping that confidential (and still will) by request as well as from a professional standpoint.  Of course, how Hope wants to handle their situation and announcement is their choice.  Perhaps you may have handled it in a different manner and that is fine.  You, obviously and understandably, are unaware of the background in regards to some of this in the "why" it was handled the way it was and with less release of public information regarding the entire process.  Regardless, I will not share anything more about this, but will stand by my statements.  If you want to call that "toeing the party line", then so be it.  The semantics game is always amusing.

Moving on, I agree with the others in that it will be interesting to see how Stuursma moves the program forward.  He is an excellent coach.  A big challenge is ahead of him, yet I'm sure he is up to it.           

Well, that escalated quickly.

[Pat Coleman]

Regardless of a Twitter leak or whatever, I'm just talking about the timing of having no decision (according to your source), and then the real-life appearance of a fully written news release at 8:30 ET the following morning, a Monday. It just doesn't add up. Your source may have told you one thing but the real-life release really strongly suggests otherwise. That's all I'm saying.

[sac]

As it turns out, the window between rumor, accepting job offer and confirmation was very tight.  In other words welcome to the internet age.

[sflzman]

I would have to imagine that being that Hope gets a pretty good level of media coverage that they would make a huge push for the early Monday morning press release (which we all know is the ideal time to make a positive news release - while Friday late afternoon is your time slot for a negative press release) whether they had their decision made Friday night at 8 or Sunday night at midnight. And like SAC mentioned in the technology age that we're in right now it isn't that difficult to send a few texts, get quotes, and throw together a news release quickly, even if it's at 1 am Sunday night or 7 am Monday morning

[AlmaFan27]

By 9:00pm on Sunday night...it was official.  It just was.  Good luck to Peter.

[formerd3db]

Although sac and a couple of others posted on this over on the MIAA basketball board, anyone have any comments about the Kalamazoo sanctions by the NCAA?  "Creative thinking" with regard to financial aide for student-athletes has gone on at other schools in the conference to some degree in past decades, but, Kalamazoo was dinged for this.  From what has been presented on the official statements by the NCAA committee and Kalamazoo's administration, it appears this was a good intended effort to help admissions,m although unintentional as far as violating the rules.  However, it also appears there is a chance at avoiding the post-season participation ban if the situations in all of their sports are rectified.   

I'm interested in hearing any comments/opinions from some of our Kazoo posters here. 

[DBQ1965]

Although sac and a couple of others posted on this over on the MIAA basketball board, anyone have any comments about the Kalamazoo sanctions by the NCAA?  "Creative thinking" with regard to financial aide for student-athletes has gone on at other schools in the conference to some degree in past decades, but, Kalamazoo was dinged for this.  From what has been presented on the official statements by the NCAA committee and Kalamazoo's administration, it appears this was a good intended effort to help admissions,m although unintentional as far as violating the rules.  However, it also appears there is a chance at avoiding the post-season participation ban if the situations in all of their sports are rectified.   

I'm interested in hearing any comments/opinions from some of our Kazoo posters here.

I heard a rumor that one of the baseball HCs in the MIAA got wind of something he thought he could use and reported KC.  This was maybe two years ago and the head baseball coach at KC and the AD had to go to an NCAA seminar on violations and penalities.  From reading the report on the KC website, it sounds as if they already changed/corrected the process for awarding financial aid for any entering student last Fall, and are in the process of adjusting current grants to fit the parameters of the NCAA so all teams will be eligible for post season play.  Who knows what is true and what isn't?