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[sflzman]

BTW, sac, taking a "timeout" here and briefly switching to a basketball question, what do you think about Albion scheduled to play Michigan State in basketball at Breslin for a season opening Exhibition game?   Was it 2012 when Hope played the Exhibition at Indiana?  I can't remember the exact year right off hand.

I think its great.  But that game is only happening because MSU's Cassius Winston's two younger brothers play at Albion.  Really nice of Izzo to make it happen. 

Hope played at Indiana Nov. 1 of 2016.

I feel like those d3/d1 exhibitions always have some story line/connection behind them. I know in recent memory Alma played at Indiana (when Tom Crean, who started his collegiate coaching career at Alma, was the head coach) and at Central Michigan (when Kevin Gamble Sr. was coaching at Central and Jr. was playing at Alma).

[formerd3db]

BTW, sac, taking a "timeout" here and briefly switching to a basketball question, what do you think about Albion scheduled to play Michigan State in basketball at Breslin for a season opening Exhibition game?   Was it 2012 when Hope played the Exhibition at Indiana?  I can't remember the exact year right off hand.

I think its great.  But that game is only happening because MSU's Cassius Winston's two younger brothers play at Albion.  Really nice of Izzo to make it happen. 

Hope played at Indiana Nov. 1 of 2016.

I feel like those d3/d1 exhibitions always have some story line/connection behind them. I know in recent memory Alma played at Indiana (when Tom Crean, who started his collegiate coaching career at Alma, was the head coach) and at Central Michigan (when Kevin Gamble Sr. was coaching at Central and Jr. was playing at Alma).

Okay, one more post here on this basketball topic before returning to football (apologies to our other colleagues here as, yes, I know, this discussion should be over on the MIAA basketball board.)

First, thanks sac for the reminder of the Hope/Indiana exhibition.  For some reason, I somehow thought it was even further back in years. Second, as sflzman mentioned, yes, there is usually some "inside" connection for those games.  Seems like there have been more of these type of games in recent years.  The Alma games as sflzman mentioned, Albion played Eastern Michigan as I recall (Hope played Western Michigan a few years back); also, outside the MIAA, Franklin played Indiana and Manchester as I recall played Central Michigan in recent years and Ferris State playing Duke a year ago or so.  Of course, Izzo was involved in starting this trend several years ago when he initiated the exhibitions against some of the DII teams (his alma mater Northern Michigan and Grand Valley), but also playing the other state DI MAC schools in early regular season games.

This is just my own opinion, however, I always thought that if Hope had had some of their better teams from several years back, they may have had a better chance at beating (or at least a better showing against) Western Michigan in that game (and perhaps against Indiana.)  I wonder what those great North Park and Amherst teams would have done today against some of these DI schools? Possibly very good.

Historically, this DIII/DI scheduling has taken place on occasion long(er) ago in the past.  I seem to recall that back then, sometimes those games were counted as regular season games instead of exhibitions.  One year, I recall that Wheaton played Northwestern and took them to the buzzer, missing a shot that would have won the game.  Also (and this is going way back to the late 70s), Adrian played University of Detroit when Dick Vitale was the coach; there were 10,000+ at Detroit's Callahan Hall and Adrian was tied with them at halftime, but was blownout by 30 points in the second half, yet ended up losing only by 10.  Of course, today, teams are only allowed so many games and, in part, these types of games are only counted as exhibitions, (kind of a big scrimmage warm-up if you will), although there are other reasons as well for that. Nonetheless, I think it is a neat arrangement and great experience for the DIII players. 

[MUC57]

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Have some comments for you on the OAC board. 

[DBQ1965]

Every MIAA team has a BYE this Saturday.   Has that ever happened in any Conference at any time?

[formerd3db]

Every MIAA team has a BYE this Saturday.   Has that ever happened in any Conference at any time?

I can't answer your question right off hand, although I can't imagine that it hasn't occurred at least one in one of the other conferences at one time or another.  I believe this is not the first time that if has occurred for our MIAA, however.

[sac]

Happened last year on Sept 23, and 4 years ago on Sept 26.

Not sure before that.

[DBQ1965]

Happened last year on Sept 23, and 4 years ago on Sept 26.

Not sure before that.

Hmmmm ... I was around then.  I guess I wasn't paying attention.

[wally_wabash]

Every MIAA team has a BYE this Saturday.   Has that ever happened in any Conference at any time?

For sure it has.  I don't have the inclination to dig for specific historical examples right now, but I do know that the NWC is all off this week as well.  I'm fairly certain that some of the 10 team leagues over the years have all played Week 1, off Week 2, and then Weeks 3-11 for conference games. 

[Pat Coleman]

Every MIAA team has a BYE this Saturday.   Has that ever happened in any Conference at any time?

For sure it has.  I don't have the inclination to dig for specific historical examples right now, but I do know that the NWC is all off this week as well.  I'm fairly certain that some of the 10 team leagues over the years have all played Week 1, off Week 2, and then Weeks 3-11 for conference games.

Every season the Centennial takes a week off for midterm exams. This season that is the weekend of Oct. 12.

[OC_SID]

Every MIAA team has a BYE this Saturday.   Has that ever happened in any Conference at any time?

For sure it has.  I don't have the inclination to dig for specific historical examples right now, but I do know that the NWC is all off this week as well.  I'm fairly certain that some of the 10 team leagues over the years have all played Week 1, off Week 2, and then Weeks 3-11 for conference games.

The OAC did that for many years where everyone played week 1, was off week 2 and started OAC play week 3. And then they went to some teams playing non-conference Week 1, some play non-conference week 2, and then start non-conference play week 3. I think it was last year where I saw some schools play non-conference week 1 and then start conference play week 2.

[DBQ1965]

Hey TUAngola ... I'm tempted to make the drive down/over to Angola for this Saturday's game.  What is the parking situation around the stadium?  Is this Trine's homecoming weekend ... and will that add a y complications?

[TUAngola]

Hey TUAngola ... I'm tempted to make the drive down/over to Angola for this Saturday's game.  What is the parking situation around the stadium?  Is this Trine's homecoming weekend ... and will that add a y complications?

Hi DBQ...yes it is Trine's homecoming this weekend against Hope, plus we are also celebrating 25 years of football at the university.  There is a celebration for football alumni who have played for Tri State/Trine going back to when football began collegiately at the school in 1995.  I can remember going to a couple of those games in 1995, back then the Tri State Trojans played their home games at Angola High School.  An on campus football field wasn't completed until several years later.

If the weather is decent (right now it says Saturday will be cloudy and cool with a high of 59, to me that is perfect football weather), I am expecting a huge crowd, maybe in the 6000 range, Hope fans travel well too which will help the figure.  We had 4800+ for the CUW home opener a few weeks ago and probably only 100-150 of those were CUW fans.  Parking wise, you just have to find what you can find.  I am assuming you are taking I69 south as the last leg of your trip, take exit 348 and head East on US 20 into Angola.  Turn right on Summit St towards campus.  At Park St, you can try to find parking on either side of Hershey Hall (the old basketball arena) or you may have to park nearer to the MTI Center.  If you have time and it's your first time to Trine you ought to walk into MTI, I'm sure it is open to the public on gameday to explore.  Not quite as grand as DeVos but it's close.

I've been to all 3 of Trine's games this year.  We haven't played a complete game yet, but maybe this is as good as it gets this year for us.  We're decent, but with weaknesses.  Obviously not the same offensive firepower (i.e. Carswell) as the last few years.  We'll need to win it with defense.  Hope is a load though, preseason favorite, I remember the game last year in Holland, your QB is so good running the ball, huge man!  Trine hasn't lost a regular season game since the end of the 2016, so Hope will be out to end that streak!!

[formerd3db]

Unfortunately, I am not able to be at Trine for our game there this Saturday ad I have a family wedding (a cousin:s) that I have to attend. I suspect it will be a very good game.

BTW, TU Angola
That is great Trine us celebrating and honoring the players of the 25 years of the "new" era in football.  However, did you know that Tri-State/Trine actually had collegiate football well before the 1995 season? They had football in the late 1890s with the last team beinig 1990 before football was reinstated in 1995 by one if the alumni (former name of your current stadium) who had a business in Fort Wayne, IN.  Trine had that info about the early football team(s) on their website back in early 2000s, however, it is not on the history section of the current football web page. That is strange.
DBQ, drive safe if you go to the game.

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