FB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[SaintsFAN]

formerd3db,

Hey buddy, long time no talk.  Hopefully is all is well with your daughter.  TMC has their big Bridge Bowl game this week at home against an undefeated MSJ. 

One of my customers has a son who is a freshman CC runner at Hope.

[bulldogalum]

Congrats to Hope.  They've won the close games all year, and in doing so, proven that they're the best team to represent the MIAA in the playoffs.  Here's hoping they can break this losing streak in the playoffs, and make a nice run.

[formerd3db]

SaintsFAN:

Good to hear from you.  Yes, it's been awhile since we've "posted back" at each other, although I've seen some of your posts on the other boards.  That's great that your customer has a frosh runner at Hope.  My own "clan" at Hope both are doing fine - thanks for asking.  Sorry about your TMC having a tough season - they seem to be like Alma is this year as well.  Hope all is well your way - from your posts, it appears you are doing well.  Anyway, I'm glad we've clinched a playoff spot, but like everyone else here, I HOPE we don't draw Mount Union   Talk to you later friend. 

[formerd3db]

bulldogalum:
Thanks for the support.  Also, I'm sure that you were glad to see your Bulldogs beat Albion.  At least 3/4 of your family was not I'm sure   Hope things are going well for you.

[sac]

Oops!  Somehow, my post got placed in the previous cited posts rather than in the usual section below those - sorry about that.

saw it thanks,  sounds like it was a real Midwestern slugfest.

[hope1]

what a great hope played saturday  verus  olivet there d shut them down

[formerd3db]

what a great hope played saturday  verus  olivet there d shut them down

Oops!  Somehow, my post got placed in the previous cited posts rather than in the usual section below those - sorry about that.

saw it thanks,  sounds like it was a real Midwestern slugfest.

Yes, it was one of the best and toughest games I've seen in a while.  As I mentioned, Olivet is a very good team - much better than people want to believe, give them credit for and/or than their record indicates.  Anyway, those are the kind of games that are fun, except when your team loses

[79jaybird]

"How will Hope fair in the post-season?"
I think Hope has a good shot against everybody, with the exception being Mt. Union.  I think everybody in the Midwest Region could say the same thing and don't want to face the Purple people eaters in Alliance.  Teams like Capital, Wheaton, Concordia-WI, MSJ, etc.  are beatable and as long as Hope plays to their capabilities they could compete.  Keep in mind I think Hope would probably have a ROAD game in the first round, which makes things a little more difficult than if the game was in Holland.  Any given Saturday, anything/everything can happen.  I would like to see the MIAA get a playoff win, hopefully not at a CCIW school's expense.

[wlcalum]

I think we all would like to see Hope win a couple games and they sure have the talent to do so. Will have to wait to see what the pairings are before we can make a good guess.
Lets hope they do not rank based on past post season performance.

[Pat Coleman]

Doesn't really matter -- if they seed based on the actual criteria Hope will still be last out of this group.

[ACRULZ]

Just my opinion but I believe The MIAA teams need to branch out of Michigan and recruit players from elsewhere.  With 3 MAC schools and countless GLIAC schools the kids that are left in Michigan are pretty well picked over.  I believe that is the reason for poor showings in both non-league games and the playoffs.

[Hope92]

Doesn't really matter -- if they seed based on the actual criteria Hope will still be last out of this group.


[Isn't possible Hope could get the number 7 seed in the North?  The reason I ask is Wittenberg also has 3 losses; Capital (7-1) now ranked 5th overall, Dayton not ranked and Ohio Wesleyan (3-7) also unranked on 10/21.  Hope's three losses; first three games of the season were to Central(9-0) now ranked 10th, Depauw (6-3) un ranked, and Wheaton (8-1) now ranked 18th.  Seems that Hope should get consideration to move ahead of Wittenburg based on thier recent loss to Ohio Wesleyan, and the quality of teams Hope has lost to.]

[Superfoot Wallace]

The loss to Depauw should weigh more heavily in my consideration because there will be an opponent in common as between the two conferences.  Believe the same analysis holds true for the Dayton loss as well.

Butler beat Dayton and Butler was beaten by an MIAA.  Have to take into account the higher division status of Dayton.  Remember there were no regional points to be lost or gained in this matchup.

The Monon Bell has an NCAC, beaten by Wittenberg, playing a team that beat Hope head to head.  A Wabash win in this rivalry game has to favor Witt, whereas a Depauw win gives little insight unless the margin is great.

The OWU loss looks terrible and quite possibly will land Witt below Hope, but expect this analysis is too close to call and the NCAA will look to other criteria for the seeding, such as thinning Ohio teams by pitting them against each other, press box issues in either the CCIW or IBFC and general trends such as disdain for rematches from the regular season in the first round.

Would expect Capital will not see Witt in the first round.  Witt has not played either MSJ or MUC, so would expect that Witt will see one or the other if the NCAA wishes to thin the Ohio representatives.  Bythat analysis Cap would face MSJ and Witt gets MUC.

[Mr. Ypsi]

MacLeod,

So far as I know, there are no longer any pressbox (or other field deficiencies) in the CCIW - Carthage fixed their problem VERY promptly after losing home field!

I haven't heard anyone speak with authority concerning the alleged deficiency at CUW - but no one has denied it either.  The "conventional wisdom" at this point seems to be that they will not be able to host, but I just don't know.

[formerd3db]

Just my opinion but I believe The MIAA teams need to branch out of Michigan and recruit players from elsewhere.  With 3 MAC schools and countless GLIAC schools the kids that are left in Michigan are pretty well picked over.  I believe that is the reason for poor showings in both non-league games and the playoffs.

Not a bad idea.  The tuition at MIAA schools is less than most of the out-of-state schools and the academics comparable (if not better in some cases i.e. depends on whose arguing that ).  As one example, Hope used to get a lot more players from NY, NJ, Conn areas due to the Reformed Church affiliations.  However, for some reason, that has declined alot in recent years.  On the other hand, some players like to be closer to home for a variety of reasons.  To each his own I guess.