University Athletic Association

jam40jeff · October 03, 2009, 03:39:18 PM

CMU pulls it out over Kenyon, 17-14.

ExTartanPlayer · October 07, 2009, 02:06:22 PM

This week features a couple of good matchups for the UAA teams:

Case Western (4-0) at Wooster (3-1)

Wooster lost to Waynesburg on opening day, but has handled three mediocre opponents in the subsequent weeks. While I expect the Spartans to win convincingly, this is probably the toughest non-conference game on CWRU's schedule. Yes, ADL70, I saw your comment a few days ago about the win over Rochester being a decent win, and while I do think Rochy is a respectable opponent, quiote frankly they are a mediocre Liberty League team likely to finish 5-5 at best. Back to this week's game...I expect CWRU to win about 31-14.

Carnegie Mellon (4-1) vs. Allegheny (3-1)

CMU faces one of their better opponents to date with a respectable Allegheny team. CMU has been winning ugly against some mediocre teams (OWU, Grove City, Kenyon), but ugly W's still count as W's. The meat of the schedule is yet to come (Witt, WashU, CWRU), but the men in plaid can't look ahead. A win against Allegheny would set them up nicely for the aforementioned three-week stretch. Tartans in a close one, 20-17.

Washington U (2-2) at Wabash (4-0)

The Bears have been hard to figure this season. They run into a meatgrinder in an excellent Wabash team this weekend. Sorry, Bears; if you couldn't stay with Witt, you ain't staying with Wabash either. Yes, I read about the Witt game, and I know things just snowballed on you in the second quarter with a safety, kickoff return, and a couple of turnovers. I think you'll stay closer this week. Wabash 35-7.

Chicago (1-2) at Oberlin (0-4)

Oberlin probably isn't as bad as their record looks (three of their losses are against tough opponents: W & J, Case, and Allegheny), but this is a good chance for UChi to post a non-con win. If the Maroons play well I think they'll win by 10-14. They need a couple of W's against a soft middle to build some momentum for the UAA schedule.

XTP

ADL70 · October 10, 2009, 09:33:49 AM

X-TP I posted the same score for the "fight for the fish" on the NCAC board.

PoppaN · October 11, 2009, 09:31:13 AM

Was a great win last night against Wooster .. Case 53 Wooster 32 .... some big plays made on both sides of the field kept us nervous until the 4th qt. when the offense pulled away and the D made some big stops ...
I notice Case vs Wooster was not in the list of games played yesterday for D3 football ... must have been overlooked again ....

cave2bens · October 11, 2009, 10:13:15 AM

Quote from: PoppaN on October 11, 2009, 09:31:13 AM
Was a great win last night against Wooster .. Case 53 Wooster 32 .... some big plays made on both sides of the field kept us nervous until the 4th qt. when the offense pulled away and the D made some big stops ...
I notice Case vs Wooster was not in the list of games played yesterday for D3 football ... must have been overlooked again ....

If referring to the "Scoreboard," PoppaN, it's listed. Results for ranked teams are listed first.

Somehow believe that performance of Whelan, Cowtrick, and co. will get some love this week - that was an entertaining game to watch as an alternative to FL-LSU or UM-IOWA.

ADL70 · October 11, 2009, 10:41:32 AM

I'm pretty sure he meant the front page, but it is there as well, just not highlighted with a link to the game story. It's in the paragraph just above the one that leads with Mary Hardin Baylor.

Props to Wooster. But the dink and dump offfense couldn't keep up with Wahlen and company. Holter gained a lot on scrambles, but was hindered by several dropped passes, and rarely completed anything deep (despite the fact that CWRU played almost the whole game with two back-up CBs). Flagg was quick and surpringly strong.

Pat Coleman · October 12, 2009, 12:20:46 AM

Quote from: ADL70 on October 11, 2009, 10:41:32 AM
I'm pretty sure he meant the front page, but it is there as well, just not highlighted with a link to the game story.

No story to link to.

ADL70 · October 12, 2009, 08:30:41 AM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 12, 2009, 12:20:46 AM
Quote from: ADL70 on October 11, 2009, 10:41:32 AM
I'm pretty sure he meant the front page, but it is there as well, just not highlighted with a link to the game story.

No story to link to.

Not intended as a criticism, just to indcate that it didn't stand out by being highlighted in red.

blue4now · October 12, 2009, 03:00:58 PM

A huge win for the Spartans over a tough Wooster squad and still no love.... In fact we dropped 2 spots. Unbelievable.........

jam40jeff · October 12, 2009, 03:34:46 PM

Quote from: blue4now on October 12, 2009, 03:00:58 PM
A huge win for the Spartans over a tough Wooster squad and still no love.... In fact we dropped 2 spots. Unbelievable.........

I think the verdict's still out on Wooster...we'll have to see how they compete with Witt and Wabash to get a better idea.

Though it doesn't make any sense to me that Wabash would pull ahead of us with a 19 point victory over Wash U, who looks to be clearly at a lower level than the Wooster team we handled by 21 points. Obviously that's not to say scores are transitive or that Wabash would always only beat Wash U by 19 points, but if we were 10 and Wabash was 11 last week, what was it in those two scores that justified them jumping us in the rankings?

I have a feeling it was the Podcast. Voters have the thought in their mind now, "Yeah, Case plays crappy teams, I'm not voting them that high." It may be partially justified, but I think we'll have to wait until the playoffs to find out for sure.

SaintsFAN · October 12, 2009, 04:00:57 PM

Quote from: jam40jeff on October 12, 2009, 03:34:46 PM
Quote from: blue4now on October 12, 2009, 03:00:58 PM
A huge win for the Spartans over a tough Wooster squad and still no love.... In fact we dropped 2 spots. Unbelievable.........

I think the verdict's still out on Wooster...we'll have to see how they compete with Witt and Wabash to get a better idea.

Though it doesn't make any sense to me that Wabash would pull ahead of us with a 19 point victory over Wash U, who looks to be clearly at a lower level than the Wooster team we handled by 21 points. Obviously that's not to say scores are transitive or that Wabash would always only beat Wash U by 19 points, but if we were 10 and Wabash was 11 last week, what was it in those two scores that justified them jumping us in the rankings?

I have a feeling it was the Podcast. Voters have the thought in their mind now, "Yeah, Case plays crappy teams, I'm not voting them that high." It may be partially justified, but I think we'll have to wait until the playoffs to find out for sure.

It definitely caught my attention when Waynesburg beat Wooster in week 1. Whalen and Company will be a tough out in the playoffs... rankings be damned. Just get ready for that --- I think they reach the North Region Finals this year in Alliance.

jam40jeff · October 12, 2009, 04:37:59 PM

Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 12, 2009, 04:00:57 PM
Quote from: jam40jeff on October 12, 2009, 03:34:46 PM
Quote from: blue4now on October 12, 2009, 03:00:58 PM
A huge win for the Spartans over a tough Wooster squad and still no love.... In fact we dropped 2 spots. Unbelievable.........

I think the verdict's still out on Wooster...we'll have to see how they compete with Witt and Wabash to get a better idea.

Though it doesn't make any sense to me that Wabash would pull ahead of us with a 19 point victory over Wash U, who looks to be clearly at a lower level than the Wooster team we handled by 21 points. Obviously that's not to say scores are transitive or that Wabash would always only beat Wash U by 19 points, but if we were 10 and Wabash was 11 last week, what was it in those two scores that justified them jumping us in the rankings?

I have a feeling it was the Podcast. Voters have the thought in their mind now, "Yeah, Case plays crappy teams, I'm not voting them that high." It may be partially justified, but I think we'll have to wait until the playoffs to find out for sure.

It definitely caught my attention when Waynesburg beat Wooster in week 1. Whalen and Company will be a tough out in the playoffs... rankings be damned. Just get ready for that --- I think they reach the North Region Finals this year in Alliance.

Just a reply to get the thread title back.

PoppaN · October 12, 2009, 05:57:11 PM

My bad .. I did not see they did it with ranked teams at top .. I just went by the TIME listed ... from early games to night games ...

ExTartanPlayer · October 12, 2009, 06:11:18 PM

CWRU fans,

Take a deep breath and think logically. The poll doesn't matter in Division III the way it does in Division I. There is no BCS title game we're trying to get to here, and the poll really won't affect playoff seeds (while the poll voters are most likely the best-informed Division III fans around, I don't think that any of them are on the playoff selection committee). CWRU's Week 6 ranking, in the big scheme of things, means very little. What's the difference between being #12 and #10 right now?

If the Spartans are legitimate national-title contenders, they'll prove it on the field in November, and it really won't matter what they were ranked right now.

jam40jeff · October 13, 2009, 07:32:19 AM

Quote from: TartanPlayer on October 12, 2009, 06:11:18 PM
CWRU fans,

Take a deep breath and think logically. The poll doesn't matter in Division III the way it does in Division I.

I didn't mean for my post to come across as I was being upset. I just think it's interesting to (think logically and) discuss the poll and try to figure out the logic behind the placement of the teams (especially since I think this is by far the most logical poll out there).