University Athletic Association

[ADL70]

Poppa, at least we got the roughing call.  Who would have thought that the punt team would have two of the most imprtant plays of the game?

[WashUDad]

How is Wash U's strength of schedule lower than Case's??

[ADL70]

How is Wash U's strength of schedule lower than Case's??

Read the fine print.  Only "in-region" opponents count.  That leaves out Wittenberg and Wabash.

Don't get me started on the absurd NCAA concept of region and the special treatment given to "in-region."

[PoppaN]

True Mike ... 

[jam40jeff]

Read the fine print.  Only "in-region" opponents count.  That leaves out Wittenberg and Wabash.

Wooster as well.

[ADL70]

All so far but Knox, Westminster, and Rhodes.  The UAA games are in-region.  But it was Wabash and Wittenberg that he was looking at.

[PoppaN]

http://www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=205018295

CWRU makes Top 25 in AFCA poll.   

[sflzman]

D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

1. UW-Whitewater (20) 500
2. Mt. Union     479
3. Wesley    453
4. North Central   435
5. St. Thomas   417
6. UMHB    394
7. Delaware Valley  336
8. Hardin-Simmons  318
9. Ohio Northern   305
10. Linfield    300
11. Wartburg    288
12. Wittenberg   269
13. Thomas More   264
14 Wheaton    242
15. Montclair St.   233
16. Trine    210
17. Coe     169
18. Bethel    167
19. Central 134
20. Hampden-Sydney  133
21. California Lutheran  90
22. Ursinas     84
23. St. John Fisher   56
24. Alfred     46
25. Pacific Lutheran 46

Dropped Out: Case Western Reserve

Others receiving votes: Case Western Reserve (36), Depauw (21), Rowan (17), Wabash (17), Franklin (16), Cortland St. (12), Willamette (8), Augustana (4)

[PoppaN]

go figure Case did not make the fan poll  
and Case was dropped out after a win against a strong Wooster team .. LMAO
while I know there are many knowledgeable posters here and are in the Fan poll ... it has no meaning to me until the NCAA asks for their opinion.

I posted a poll to show Case does get noticed and deservedly so. 

Save that for another forum this is for UAA news. 

[ADL70]

The NCAA does not consider any polls in its rankings.

Tomorrow the first of the Regional Rankings, the only "poll" that matters comes out.

Right now there are four North Region Conferences with the potential to have an undefeated champion--OAC, CCIW, NCAC, and MIAA.  Currently CWRU has a higher SoS than Mt Union, Wittenberg, and Trine.  CWRU's SoS will increase, since all of the UAA teams have winning records.  Trine has no games remaining against a team with a winning record.  Wittenberg gets a bump from Wabash, but they are in the bottom 10% of the SoS currently.  Regardless of SoS, I don't see Mt Union ranked anywhere but number one.

Sooo, if CWRU wins out a three or four seed seems likely.  The unknow to me is whether if Wabash beats Wittenberg and Depauw (unbeaten in-region) they would be ranked above CWRU.

[Schwami]

Let's look at some of the other criteria that would come in to play besides SoS if CWRU were to go 10-0 and Wabash were to go 9-1 (a big if, since every game from here on out will be a huge game for both teams against quality opponents who will bring everything they've got):

1.  CWRU and Wabash are both undefeated in-region (Wabash's loss to WashUStL does not count against Wabash in this regard)

2.  CWRU has a win and Wabash has a loss against a common opponent (WashUStL)(advantage CWRU)

3.  Wabash has a win (maybe two) against regionally-ranked opponents (Witt at 9-1 is likely to be regionally ranked, as would DePauw at 9-1 --- although I don't know if DePauw counts since it is in a different region)

The SoS for Wabash should improve dramatically with the last three games against Allegheny, Witt and DePauw.  The power-weighted conference schedule in the NCAC actually perversely skews the SoS slightly upward for Wabash.  Having said that, I really don't think SoS is a big deal, it is probably the last thing that the committee looks at.  If they end up having to make a decision on seeding between CWRU and Wabash, they will probably decide it based upon the head-to-head results against WashUStL or on the wins against regionally ranked opponents.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Wabash/DePauw is always an in-region game by the 200-mile rule.

[Schwami]

By the way, what kind of fish is going on the stringer this year?  

[Schwami]

Wabash/DePauw is always an in-region game by the 200-mile rule.

Yes, it counts as an in-region game for Wabash.  But would a win against a regionally-ranked opponent in the South region (DePauw) count as a win against a regionally-ranked opponent for purposes of the North-region regional rankings?  (Wow, I only used the root word "region" four times in that last sentence!!! --- clear as mud, I know  )

[Mr. Ypsi]

Wabash/DePauw is always an in-region game by the 200-mile rule.

Yes, it counts as an in-region game for Wabash.  But would a win against a regionally-ranked opponent in the South region (DePauw) count as a win against a regionally-ranked opponent for purposes of the North-region regional rankings?  (Wow, I only used the root word "region" four times in that last sentence!!! --- clear as mud, I know  )

I'm not 100% sure, but 99% confident I remember that the answer is yes.