University Athletic Association

[Superfoot Wallace]

Did Whalen play?  Better gauge for the CMU victory?

signed,
Tubby Raymond

[ADL70]

Mirando started and played 3 quarters.  He was 8-16-0  103 yds.  Rushed for 16, but lost 26 in 3 sacks.

Whalen came in when Mirando hit his right hand on a helmet.  He was  6-12-2  105 yards. 1 TD 1 rush for 9 and no sacks.  All in situations when passes were expected, down 20-3.

I'm not sure Tubby would have recognized CMU's shotgun.

Not much progress for CMU in the D3 Top 25.  I spot I think.  Only Mt. St. Joseph cracked the Top 25.

[Superfoot Wallace]

I'm not sure Tubby would have recognized CMU's shotgun.

Is CMU passing out of shotgun or are they staying true to the form of the wing t and using ball deception from under center?  Paterno took to Mack Browns Vince Young shotgun Offense because of its wing t roots last year.

You know, most the time, they dont find a defensive solution to something that works real well, they try and legislate it out or proxy it or somethign.

Look at what the Washington redskins did with their wing shorgun attack during the Baugh era.

The new York Gainst were working with Short Punt A formation at this time or just before, but they were still trying to reinvent the vtrick and flying wedges that had been taken from them administratively.

For the wing t guys, the solution isnt differnetiation based upon formation so much as adapting the basic principle of fold and chair blocks at great ranges laterally.   Now they categorize offensive staples not so much on formation but motion used.

Erdelyi is part of the jet motion crew if Im not mistaken.  His pass game shouldnt be so much dig whip and square in with the tight end as hes not a big rocket guy.  Rocket making the wing t start to look run and shoot.

Really wonder how good that line is and whether they could use Canadian Motion and a big H or dive back to seal up fissures when they face a truly playoff caliber squad.   

best regards,
Gunner Gatski  and the Duluth Eskimos

[Pat Coleman]

To make a big leap (like 10 spots), it probably takes a win over a ranked team or a lot of ranked teams losing to unranked teams.  That's why scheduling Delaware Val would be a good move next year.  That is, if playoffs and poll rankings are a goal.

Pat, the stats issue raises a question.  Does the NCAA provide for stats to be audited by watching films?  Is it required or even permitted?  And if so, is it the home stats that are official?

In fact, it's expressly prohibited for defense, in response to "coaches' stats" inflating tackle numbers overall.

If there's an issue, I believe offensive stats can be reviewed.

As for anointing citizen scoreboard updaters, there's a proverb about giving someone a fish as opposed to teaching them to fish for themselves. If you want in-game updated scores, get that message to the home SIDs.

[BDTartan]

The stat issue as far as CMU goes is like this:  Everyone at CMU knows my brother got that fumble, but they can't change it because it was a league game.  I guess in non-league games CMU has changed stats.  I don't know and as I said before, it doesn't bother me or my brother really.  The W for the Tartans was all that mattered.

Unfortunately, there is some bad news for CMU as their starting QB Kevin Mulkern is out for the rest of the season with broken bones in his back.  When I first saw the hit, I thought concussion because Tom Brew hit him helmet-to-helmet but I guess that another player hit him in the back and side at the same time.  We shall see what this does to their tricky passing attack, but I think Facemeyer can come in and do the job.  Game management is all he needs to do.

Yes, CMU did show a little wing-T out of the shotgun against CWRU.

[ADL70]

Sorry to hear about Mulkern.  I know Facemeyer played last year.  Mulkern does seem the better passer.

[BDTartan]

Yeah, I agree with you, but Facemeyer is much better at passing this year than last.  Plus, its not like he has sat the bench all year.  He has played at least a quarter every game this year so I am not that worried.  I am more worried about stopping a good running team without Ploetzner in the middle of their D.

[BDTartan]

Wow, I saw that a single player from WUStL had 4 sacks alone against Chicago.  Could spell trouble for Chicago with CMU's young DL starting to look real scary.  CMU only rushed the front 3 against CWRU and got pressures, sacks, and hurries all game.  It's an interesting point because I have never liked the 3-4 D.  It leaves to many holes in the trenches and if the blockers get to the second level a good running team could have a big day against the 3-4.  It hasn't happened to CMU yet but if they run the table and get into the playoffs I would be safe and have a few different schemes to stop a good running team.

[BDTartan]

I know we don't get much interest in this topic but even the regulars seem to be avoiding the topic. 

cwru70 - how do you think your spartans will fare in St. Louis this weekend??

[ADL70]

Last CWRU win over WUStL was 1991.  They seem to have our number. Thought this might be the year, but they seem to have found their offense.  A W would be a pleasant surprise.

[BDTartan]

Yeah, their first win against WUStL in 15 years would be great for them plus it would make the battle for the UAA a little more interesting.

[Wizardman]

Case hans't beaten Washington in a while?
Well, it seems time that ase notches a win then, no? WuStl's not playing as well as they appear, and Case was neck and neck with CMU most of that game.

[ADL70]

I'm concerned about all those sacks and TFLs WUStL racked up against UChi whose OL has two UAA first teamers (They don't provide starting lineups on their stats page, so can't say for certain they played).  CWRU's OL is banged up and has given up alot of sacks.  They also capitalized on turnovers which has been a CWRU problem.  I predict a defensive struggle (which doesn't necessarily mean low scoring, if the D creates scores or opportunities)

[BDTartan]

Wizardman, not to knock your assessment of the CWRU/CMU game, but you listened to the game on the radio whereas I was actually there(Yes I am biased towards CMU).  But even though CWRU hung tough, they were not neck and neck with CMU.  As I said the day of the game, if CMU's special teams returners don't make boneheaded play after boneheaded play then the score could have easily been 35-10.  They consistantly made mistakes in the return game which gave them horrible field position on just about every drive.  Other than that CMU controlled the game until midway through the fourth when the 2nd string D went in and CWRU scored.  After that the 1st string was sent in and it was a stalemate until the end.

cwru70, I couldn't tell you either, but Chicago better get it together or CMU's D will have a big day against them, especially if the O gives them a comfortable lead.

[ADL70]

BDT, I don't know about the td coming against the second team D.  Some probably, but you had said your brother routinely rotated in thoughout the games, perhaps others did as well.  According to the play-by-play their top DB Aaron Lewis was in on the play prior to the td.