University Athletic Association

Pat Coleman · November 01, 2006, 07:54:36 PM

Don't believe they are so comparable. Just because the win-loss record of two teams is the same doesn't mean they are the same quality of opponent.

BDTartan · November 01, 2006, 08:22:29 PM

Pat, as I stated in the other board, most of the knocks on CMU is not playing a winning team. Whitworth hasn't played a winning team either. So what's the deal then? Is it just me or do the UAA schools not get any credit because they are Academic Institutions first and foremost?

ADL70 · November 01, 2006, 08:38:29 PM

It seems to me CMU deserved more credit for taking Thiel to OT last year (3 yet), a team that won a playoff game. And the F&M win should have looked better at the time, since F&M beat W&L. Although you could argue that W&L was breaking in a new QB.

UAA cred would have suffered when WUStL lost to Wheaton and North Central and Chicago to DEPaul and Elmhurst.

Here's to CMU beating Bethany and Thiel and getting an evenly matched first round game to show their stuff.

And schedule Delaware Valley next year.

Pat Coleman · November 01, 2006, 09:39:03 PM

Quote from: BDTartan on November 01, 2006, 08:22:29 PM
Is it just me or do the UAA schools not get any credit because they are Academic Institutions first and foremost?

I expect the UAA's playoff record is far more of a leading indicator in that direction.

I am not going to have this discussion with you on two boards, however. Once is enough.

ADL70 · November 01, 2006, 09:59:25 PM

And it didn't help the UAA that CWRU started 2003 just below the Top 25, got blown out by Wooster and fell to 5-5.

ADL70 · November 03, 2006, 06:35:43 PM

I see Ploetzner (sp) is in the two-deep. That's good!!

Go Spartans and Tartans (Bears and Maroons, too)!!!

ADL70 · November 03, 2006, 10:11:49 PM

To give a boost to UAA cred, in 2004 CMU (1-2 UAA) beat the ascendant Wesley (8-2).

BDTartan · November 03, 2006, 11:25:05 PM

Yeah, its Senior Day so they are starting some seniors who haven't played as much this year.

And the Wesley win was discussed on another board.

ADL70 · November 04, 2006, 09:28:33 AM

Yeah, I just wanted to make the point that they weren't even the top UAA team. But then Wesley wasn't getting any credit in the poll then either.

Hope Ploetzner's starting is more than token and he'll be full go against Thiel.

ADL70 · November 04, 2006, 02:32:03 PM

CMU 35 Bethany 0 Half

GCC 19 CWRU 6 12:00 3Q

ADL70 · November 04, 2006, 03:42:45 PM

No let up for the Tartans. 44-6

Spartan D has an off day, turn overs don't help, GCC 40-33. 40 points to a team averaging about 17? Ouch, ouch.

BDTartan · November 04, 2006, 08:07:59 PM

Yeah, ouch is right. I really thought the Spartans had a shot at GCC.

CMU absolutely steam-rolled Bethany. Sivek became only the second back to reach the 1,000 yd mark in a season and he also scored 4 times. Their looking tough heading into Thiel. We'll see what happens next weekend and where they are going to go in the playoffs if they win.

CMURyan · November 04, 2006, 08:51:17 PM

Steam rolled is right. I was a little bothered by the success that Bethany had passing early on, but once we knocked their QB out, that problem was solved.

Looking at the results (and not that I like this scenario), it looks like we could probably still get a B bid with a loss. Linfield and Rockford both lost essentially narrowing the B field down to 4 teams.

BDTartan · November 04, 2006, 10:20:34 PM

Its a possibility, but who's to say the people who decide the bids like the looks of CMU having 1 loss with our weak schedule. I would still rather be 10-0 so that they have the best opportunity at getting the best first round matchup they can get.

The passing didn't bother me any because Bethany runs a spread offense with virtually no running game. Its one thing to go down the field with the spread but putting it into the endzone is a different story.

BDTartan · November 05, 2006, 08:27:48 PM

Interesting notes about Sivek's 1,000 yard season. The last and only other time CMU had a 1,000 rusher was Scott Barnyak in 1990, coincidentally the last time CMU went 10-0 and made the playoffs. Sivek has only failed to reach the 100 yd. mark three times this season. He has reached the 1,000 yard mark while fellow junior Robert Gimson is averaging the most yards per carry for any CMU back with 825 yards on 110 carries at a 7.5 yd/rush clip. Depending on what happens next weekend at Thiel, CMU could have two backs reach the 1,000 yard mark in the same season.

Me being a fan and seeing every game except for the Wash. U game would have to say that the O-line play is largely responsible for this season's rushing success. They're really going out there and pushing people around.