University Athletic Association

[frank uible]

I don't remember who was the officially designated home team in the 1953 game - but for some reason I always thought Reserve was the home team. The National Air Race stands were not up for that game. As I recall, those stands didn't go up until the 60s. We moved out of the University Circle neighborhood in 1956, and thereafter I never saw another Case, Reserve or CWRU game although I returned for educational, cultural and social reasons.

[DagarmanSpartan]

Gang,

This is a link that absolutely, positively, MUST be clicked on.........upon PAIN OF DEATH!!!



Enjoy!

http://cgsc.cdmhost.com/cgi-bin/showfile.exe?CISOROOT=/p4013coll2&CISOPTR=2485&filename=2536.pdf#search=%22Adams,RyonF%22

[cave2bens]

Gang,

This is a link that absolutely, positively, MUST be clicked on.........upon PAIN OF DEATH!!!



Enjoy!

It certainly is a welcome deviation from hordes of black limos and 24/7 coverage of Michael Jackson's demise. 

[ExTartanPlayer]

Looks like a lot of work there, Major.  How long did that take?  Also, if you've just finished your Master's degree, congratulations!

[DagarmanSpartan]

Thanks!

The thesis took me about 2.5 months to research, and about 2 months to write.  After that, I had to defend it, and pass an oral comprehensive exam.

Of course, during all that, I was completing coursework as well.

I received that Master's degree on June 12th.

I had previously received a law degree from the University of Houston, and another Master's from Central Michigan.  My bachelor's degree was from CWRU.

[raiderguy]

Thanks!

The thesis took me about 2.5 months to research, and about 2 months to write.  After that, I had to defend it, and pass an oral comprehensive exam.

Of course, during all that, I was completing coursework as well.

I received that Master's degree on June 12th.

I had previously received a law degree from the University of Houston, and another Master's from Central Michigan.  My bachelor's degree was from CWRU.

You have descovered the ultimate prize.........how to remain/become a professional student. Some of the best 5...10 years of my life were being a student....with all the rights and benefits it allows....Congratulations.

I hear McDonalds is paying $10.00 an hour! 


I am kidding I hope you know.












It's only $7.00

[frank uible]

MajorSpartan: Is George Steinbrenner going to attend Heritage Day? I believe that he was an assistant football coach at Case in the early 50s under Lou Saban although I haven't been able to find confirmation of the fact on the internet. Perhaps some one can dig it out of the Case archives.

[DagarmanSpartan]

George Steinbrenner?

Really?

Gosh!  I never heard that!

[ADL70]

The timelines don't quite match up for Steinbrenner to have been an assistant at Case for Saban or any other time.  I could find no references to him as an assistant in the online CWRU archives

The Steinbrenner bios online have him graduating from Williams in 1952 and entering the Air Force after graduation,  It's possible he could have served under Saban at Case in the fall of 1952 and reported to Air Force after the season.  But one source says he was discharged from the Air Force in 1954, started graduate school at Ohio State that year, and was a football graduate assistant for the undefeated 1954 team.  That sequence would mean he was in the AF less than two full years.  Another source says he served three years in the Air Force and coached high school football in Coulmbus.

Thereafter he was an assistant at Northwestern and Purdue.

I discovered this undated picture of Clarke Field.  It is as remember it from 1966, its last year.

http://library.case.edu/digitalcase/datastreamDetail.aspx?PID=ksl:uarchives-arcima00691&DSID=arcima00691.jp2&pageParam=SearchResults&q=

Also discovered this archive of Case, Western Reserve, and CWRU teams from 1880-2000.
http://www.case.edu/its/archives/Seasons/seasrecs.htm

I also found that future tennis journalist Bud Collins was the Reserve golf coach in 1954.

[ExTartanPlayer]

Jeez, Major, is collecting college degrees a hobby?

Of course, I'm working on a Master's and may decide to pursue a PhD...should I be careful what I wish for?

[formerd3db]

MajorSpartan: Is George Steinbrenner going to attend Heritage Day? I believe that he was an assistant football coach at Case in the early 50s under Lou Saban although I haven't been able to find confirmation of the fact on the internet. Perhaps some one can dig it out of the Case archives.

George Steinbrenner?

Really?

Gosh!  I never heard that!

The timelines don't quite match up for Steinbrenner to have been an assistant at Case for Saban or any other time.  I could find no references to him as an assistant in the online CWRU archives

The Steinbrenner bios online have him graduating from Williams in 1952 and entering the Air Force after graduation,  It's possible he could have served under Saban at Case in the fall of 1952 and reported to Air Force after the season.  But one source says he was discharged from the Air Force in 1954, started graduate school at Ohio State that year, and was a football graduate assistant for the undefeated 1954 team.  That sequence would mean he was in the AF less than two full years.  Another source says he served three years in the Air Force and coached high school football in Coulmbus.

Thereafter he was an assistant at Northwestern and Purdue.

I discovered this undated picture of Clarke Field.  It is as remember it from 1966, its last year.

http://library.case.edu/digitalcase/datastreamDetail.aspx?PID=ksl:uarchives-arcima00691&DSID=arcima00691.jp2&pageParam=SearchResults&q=

Also discovered this archive of Case, Western Reserve, and CWRU teams from 1880-2000.
http://www.case.edu/its/archives/Seasons/seasrecs.htm

I also found that future tennis journalist Bud Collins was the Reserve golf coach in 1954.

Gentlemen:

That is interesting.  Having done extensive research and written/published on the history of small college intercollegiate football for a couple of schools and our conference, I can share with you that such seemingly "strange" happenings do occur.  The late great coach George Allen of NFL fame, has always been associated with Alma College as having been a player there during the WWII era.  When we were doing research for the centennial football celebration of the college, some people questioned if that was true, since documentation was initially thought to be questionable or non-existant.  However, after an exhaustive search, we were able to definitely document that he had been a player at Alma College for one season while he was in the V-12 program before leaving late in the fall after the season for active service in WWII.  Although the evidence was minimal and "sketchy", nonetheless, it was, indeed, there.  It just wasn't documented as well by the college and in their archives despite it being in the 1940's (i.e. a later era and well after the official establishment of intercollegiate football at Alma College in 1894) as compared to many other years before and after in which documentation of the football players and team results was more extensive - although some years more than others surprisingly.

Anyway, perhaps if Steinbrenner was actually at Case, it just wasn't documented as well; perhaps he was a volunteer assistant.  It is well known that type of situation does happen i.e. where someone is involved with a team in a voluntary status, and while contributes and is there regularly, it just isn't recognized publically as much (and perhaps even he missed being in the official team photo for that year).  I'm not saying that is the case (no pun intended ) here with your Steinbrenner question, but rather just mentioning that the situation as I have described has happened elsewhere and is certainly a possible explanation.  

Let the rest of us know what information, if any, that any of you might find further regarding this.  Again, it is very interesting, particularly for those who have, perhaps, a more deep interest in the historical aspects of your/our small college programs.  Thanks.

formerd3db

[frank uible]

There has to be some Case players alive from the Saban era.

[formerd3db]

There has to be some Case players alive from the Saban era.

Too bad this question didn't come up earlier this year before Saban passed away.  Perhaps, despite his advanced age and condition, Saban may have been able to answer the question and "solve the mystery".

[DagarmanSpartan]

Well, regardless of whether George Steinbrenner was ever at Case, it'd be great if we could get the legendary Don Shula to attend Heritage Day.

He has a bona fide MA in Physical Education from Western Reserve University.

See below:

http://www.case.edu/alumni/notable/sports.html

[ADL70]

I hope I'm not reading too much into this, but on the CWRU site the 09-10 basketball schedule has broadcast info, but the football schedule doesn't.