University Athletic Association

[ADL70]

Spartans will be rebuilding

rebuilding?  I meant reloading.

First of the new ammunition:

Garrett Hartig   Ft Branch (IN) Gibson Southern   6'3 270 DL/OL   All-Conf OL

Kenny Riordan   Richmond (IL) Burton  6'1 200  FB/LB   All-Area  1,000 yd rusher
     
Scott Campbell   Chagrin Falls   5'11 200 DL/OL  2x All-District

Rylan Pyciak   Rayland (OH) Buckeye Local   6'2 225  TE/LB  2x All-Ohio SM          Wrestling State Qualifier  @215

AJ Olding   Cincinnati Summit CDS  6'12 235 DL/OL 

BTW in the course of surfing the web I found that CWRU is listing open dates for all but the last three weeks of 2012.  Does this signal the end of the NCAC-UAA schedule?

[Raider 68]

Spartans will be rebuilding

rebuilding?  I meant reloading.

First of the new ammunition:

Garrett Hartig   Ft Branch (IN) Gibson Southern   6'3 270 DL/OL   All-Conf OL

Kenny Riordan   Richmond (IL) Burton  6'1 200  FB/LB   All-Area  1,000 yd rusher
     
Scott Campbell   Chagrin Falls   5'11 200 DL/OL  2x All-District

Rylan Pyciak   Rayland (OH) Buckeye Local   6'2 225  TE/LB  2x All-Ohio SM          Wrestling State Qualifier  @215

AJ Olding   Cincinnati Summit CDS  6'12 235 DL/OL 

BTW in the course of surfing the web I found that CWRU is listing open dates for all but the last three weeks of 2012.  Does this signal the end of the NCAC-UAA schedule?

Given the number of top recruits, CWRU could be strong again for the next few years, assuming they can develop another Whalen!

[wally_wabash]

BTW in the course of surfing the web I found that CWRU is listing open dates for all but the last three weeks of 2012.  Does this signal the end of the NCAC-UAA schedule?

One can only hope.

[DagarmanSpartan]

Gang,

I just got my request for orders.

I'll be heading to D.C. for four months of Dari or Pashtun language training this Fall, and then off to Afghanistan for a year in December as a part of the Afghanistan-Pakistan (AFPAK) Hands program.

[blue4now]

Major,

Good luck to you.  Its been good to have met you.  Bittersweet day yesterday as Tim moved the last of his things home.....   I will still be attending some games this fall even though the younger one will be at Mount.  Cant afford all of those Wisc visits.  lol  Be Safe!

Go Spartans!  Go Blue!!  (and now purple!)

[Raider 68]

Major,

Good luck to you.  Its been good to have met you.  Bittersweet day yesterday as Tim moved the last of his things home.....   I will still be attending some games this fall even though the younger one will be at Mount.  Cant afford all of those Wisc visits.  lol  Be Safe!

Go Spartans!  Go Blue!!  (and now purple!)

That's the ticket, GO RAIDERS!

[ExTartanPlayer]

BTW in the course of surfing the web I found that CWRU is listing open dates for all but the last three weeks of 2012.  Does this signal the end of the NCAC-UAA schedule?

One can only hope.

Ouch, wally, is it really THAT bad for the mighty NCAC schools to have to play the UAA?  I know that Bash is substantially better than most of the UAA teams, but for most of the league it's a good competitive fit.

[ExTartanPlayer]

Gang,

I just got my request for orders.

I'll be heading to D.C. for four months of Dari or Pashtun language training this Fall, and then off to Afghanistan for a year in December as a part of the Afghanistan-Pakistan (AFPAK) Hands program.

Good luck to you, Major.

eX-TP

[wally_wabash]

BTW in the course of surfing the web I found that CWRU is listing open dates for all but the last three weeks of 2012.  Does this signal the end of the NCAC-UAA schedule?

One can only hope.

Ouch, wally, is it really THAT bad for the mighty NCAC schools to have to play the UAA?  I know that Bash is substantially better than most of the UAA teams, but for most of the league it's a good competitive fit.

Is it?  What exactly did CWRU get out of their games against Kenyon/Oberlin/Denison/OWU/Hiram last year?  Other than filling out a ten game schedule and Whalen being able to go nut-so on bad defenses?  Those were games just for the sake of games.  In hindsight, I don't think you'd argue that CWRU maybe would have wanted to swap one or two of those games out for some stiffer competition. 

From the time this NCAC/UAA schedule arrangement was announced (seems like 8 years ago now), I've said that I don't hate NCAC schools playing against UAA schools.  There are definitely some appropriate matchups there that I think are good, beneficial games for both schools involved.  What I've never liked about it is that an NCAC school doesn't have a choice if those games aren't what they necessarily want.  In the case of Wabash, I don't really mind one of the Chicago or WUStl games, but not both.  I'd like to see NCAC schools play UAA schools...when it makes sense for the schools to do so; not necessarily the entire league. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Wally,

I would have thought your main complaint was not the teams, per se, but  the complete lack of flexibility Wabash has.  With 7 conference games, plus The Bell, being forced to play 2 UAA teams leaves them NO opportunity to schedule a CCIW, OAC, or any other game.

Of course, with Earlham bolting, perhaps there are only 6 conference games?

[wally_wabash]

That's mostly it, Ypsi.  Wabash has two "flex" games as it were...in the agreement, Wabash has no choice left in who goes onto the schedule.  If Wabash wanted to find an early game that was an upgrade over Chicago, for example, they couldn't do it.  Like I said, WashU or Chicago is fine, both just doesn't help much.  I'd prefer Wabash have one game to schedule against the CCIW, HCAC, or OAC (although OAC games are hard to get with Wabash traditionally not playing in week 1). 

Earlham is out, so the NCAC is only scheduling six league games each of the next two seasons....however, the best arrangement they were able to find is to have each team scheduled against 7 other NCAC teams.  One of those games just doesn't count for the league standings.  Wabash plays at Kenyon this fall in a game that doesn't count for league placement....which is another rant unto itself. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

I would think the member schools have let the NCAC get totally out of control when they control the ENTIRE schedule.  Kenyon TWICE - did they think this was swimming?!

I can't imagine CCIW member schools allowing the conference to dictate non-con games.  Since (I assume) the conference is essentially nothing more than the collective will of ADs (and Presidents?), are a majority of ADs too freakin' lazy to schedule games themselves?!

Since this is no longer about the UAA, per se, I'll follow you if you want to switch to the NCAC board.

[short]

I would think the member schools have let the NCAC get totally out of control when they control the ENTIRE schedule.  Kenyon TWICE - did they think this was swimming?!

I can't imagine CCIW member schools allowing the conference to dictate non-con games.  Since (I assume) the conference is essentially nothing more than the collective will of ADs (and Presidents?), are a majority of ADs too freakin' lazy to schedule games themselves?!

Since this is no longer about the UAA, per se, I'll follow you if you want to switch to the NCAC board.

Ypsi,
I think your confused.  Wabash isn't playing Kenyon Twice in the same season however, the one game that they are playing doesn't count in the NCAC standings.  Every NCAC school is doing this thing of playing 7 NCAC teams but only 6 of them are NCAC games.  Really stupid!  The NCAC has 9 teams that play Football (starting in 2010) IMHO they should all play the other 8 and all the games should count in the NCAC standings.  Wabash should NOT be forced to play a school from the UAA so they can use that game to play however they want like maybe CWRU :-).   

[wally_wabash]

I think the agreement is/was good for a majority of the conference with respect to competition, so whenever there was  a vote on whether or not to do it, it was passed.  And there are benefits to it for the schools that maybe don't benefit as much competition-wise (namely exposure into Chicago, St. Louis, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh), so it probably wasn't worth dissention.  But if the agreement is ending after next season, I won't be at all disappointed. 

As far as the NCAC schedule goes...I would predict that by 2012 one of three things will happen:
1) The NCAC will have found a 10th team to join the league and the 7-game conference schedule will resume
2) The NCAC will stand pat with 9 teams and go to a full round robin
3) Half of the NCAC's schools will have joined the Big Ten

[WashUDad]

 


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