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ADL70

Update on an old topic.

I ran across a South Florida Select Football Clinic that was held in Boca Raton June 6-8.  Coaches reported to be in attendance were all the Ivies, all NESCAC, four other IAA, and eighteen DIII, including CWRU, CMU, Chicago, Hopkins, Oberlin, Rochester, and W&L.
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SpartanMom_2016

Quote from: ADL70 on June 28, 2014, 12:08:52 PM
Update on an old topic.

I ran across a South Florida Select Football Clinic that was held in Boca Raton June 6-8.  Coaches reported to be in attendance were all the Ivies, all NESCAC, four other IAA, and eighteen DIII, including CWRU, CMU, Chicago, Hopkins, Oberlin, Rochester, and W&L.

It was run by Jeff Dellenbach and Mike Tracy.  Jeff Dellenbach is a former Miami Dolphins player and currently the head coach at Boca Raton HS.  He is also the former AD and head coach at American Heritage where my son is an alum.  The first year of this camp was held at American Heritage.  If you go the this website http://selectfootballclinic.com/ and click on 2012 photos you can get a look at the facility, which is fantastic for a high school.

Coach Dellenbach is a big supporter of kids playing in college, regardless of the level.  He helped my son find the NE Elite camp (which is similar but held in Boston)  when he was in high school and I believe he founded this camp because he saw the need for something like this in the area.  I would love to see this grow.  I don't know how large it was.

Mike Tracy is the former DC at Hamilton and my son got to know him as he was pretty heavily recruited by Hamilton.  I thought he was a pretty nice guy but I don't know a whole lot about him. 

SpartanMom_2016

Quote from: casefldad on June 24, 2014, 08:36:43 AM
What happened to both players?
Underclassmen will need to step up to provide backup for Sicre.


I think Mangeluzzi might be transferring.  I'm not sure about Hanzlik.

ADL70

#3303
He was reported going to three different schools (and apparently showed up at one of them), before landing at CWRU.  So I guess we shouldn't be surprised he was still looking for "greener pastures," but I took it as a good sign that a player from his high school is coming to CWRU this year.

With upper class attrition, it appears 99 players are expected to report in August. 

Watch for updated website look tomorrow afternoon.
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DagarmanSpartan

The new athletics website is crisp and sharp.

Out of curiosity, do you happen to know when they will post the 2014 football roster?

Also, when is Kickoff 2014 due?

ADL70

#3305
Roster should be up soon.

Kickoff is usually mid-August.
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badgerwarhawk

Quote from: SpartanMom_2016 on June 29, 2014, 08:42:36 PM

It was run by Jeff Dellenbach and Mike Tracy.  Jeff Dellenbach is a former Miami Dolphins player and currently the head coach at Boca Raton HS.  He is also the former AD and head coach at American Heritage where my son is an alum.  The first year of this camp was held at American Heritage.  If you go the this website http://selectfootballclinic.com/ and click on 2012 photos you can get a look at the facility, which is fantastic for a high school.

Coach Dellenbach is a big supporter of kids playing in college, regardless of the level.  He helped my son find the NE Elite camp (which is similar but held in Boston)  when he was in high school and I believe he founded this camp because he saw the need for something like this in the area.  I would love to see this grow.  I don't know how large it was.
 

Jeff Dellenbach played in the offensive line of the Wisconsin BADGERS.  Though he's better remembered as a Miami Dolphin he did play on the PACKERS team that won Super Bowl XXXI.   
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ADL70

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casefldad

Sorry to see that a couple of last year's players are not listed.  Anyone have info?

ADL70

I don't think attrition was any greater than usual, although, as reported earlier, there were a couple of high profile ones.

For the most part I think players' reasons are best kept confidential.
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BearFan

Better late than never - Wash U officially announces freshman class - 36 guys from 19 different states.

http://bearsports.wustl.edu/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20140714vf9zmo

ExTartanPlayer

#3311
Borrowing a cool thread topic from the NCAC board: what was the best team from each school of the D3football.com era?  And, as a follow-up, how would we rank them against one another in a hypothetical ranking of all UAA teams from 1999-2013?  I'll start by listing the strongest candidates from each school, then rank the best overall.

Carnegie Mellon: the 2006 team is the only slam-dunk choice, an 11-1 team that notched a playoff win thanks primarily to its outstanding left tackle spectacular one-two punch at running back and a consistently solid defense.  The next-best candidates are probably the 1999 team (8-3, ECAC bowl win), the 2007 team (7-4, ECAC bowl win) and 2001 team (7-2, losses came 17-7 vs. 8-2 WashU and 35-32 vs. Rhodes).

Case Western: a couple of teams that we'll have to tease apart here.  2007's 11-1 team probably takes the pole position, but 2008 and 2009 teams also went undefeated in the regular season and might have won a playoff game with a favorable matchup like the 2007 team got.  The 2011 team comes in fourth place by virtue of its 9-1 record in the regular season, but that team was clearly less dominant than the 2007-2009 teams.

Chicago: at first I thought the obvious choice was 2010's 8-2 UAA championship team, but the 2000 team (7-2, UAA champions) has a strong case, too.  The Maroons also won a UAA title in 2005, but that was more a function of an overall down year for the UAA than anything; Case wasn't any good yet and WashU/CMU both had very "blah" teams.  Chicago even started 0-4 (with a pair of losses to teams that finished 3-7) before running the table to finish 5-4.  Hard to stick them on this list.  I'm just including 2000 and 2010 Chicago.

Wash U: Incredibly, despite being the most consistent winning program in the UAA for most of the allotted time period, WashU has never produced one truly dominant team, merely a bunch of "good" ones that cranked out UAA titles before CMU's brief ascent and then CWRU's slightly longer reign.  But they had a string of 6-4 UAA championship teams that are hard to place on this list, IMO.  The 1999 and 2001 teams both won 8 games, as did last year's team.  Beyond those three, I don't see any other teams that merit inclusion on this list...although, I think a shout-out to 2010's 7-3 team is probably fine as well, a team that toppled then-undefeated Wabash (who would go on to finish 8-2 with a huge win in the Monon Bell game) and came within a field goal of beating the 2010 Chicago team that's a candidate for this list.

So I've tabbed our unofficial top-14 candidates for "best UAA team from 1999-2013" to be

1999 CMU (8-3, ECAC bowl win, 232 PF, 109 PA, best wins: 31-7 vs. 6-4 Alfred, 28-10 vs. 8-3 Frostburg State in ECAC bowl)
2001 CMU (7-2, no postseason, 246 PF, 152 PA, best wins: 23-17 vs. 6-3 Chicago)
2006 CMU (11-1, UAA champ, playoff win, 308 PF, 119 PA, best wins: 10-7 (OT) at 6-4 WashU for UAA title, 21-0 vs. 7-4 Millsaps in NCAA first round)
2007 CMU (7-4, ECAC bowl win, 264 PF, 181 PA, best wins: 33-10 at 6-5 Rochester, 18-13 vs. 7-3 WashU, 39-21 vs. 6-3 Wash & Lee, 21-20 vs. 6-5 Gettysburg in ECAC bowl)

2007 CWRU (11-1, UAA champ, playoff win, 409 PF, 199 PA, best wins: 20-17 (OT) vs. 7-4 CMU, 35-27 vs. 7-3 WashU, 21-20 vs. 8-3 Widener in NCAA first round)
2008 CWRU (10-1, UAA champ, playoff berth, 416 PF, 153 PA, best wins: 45-14 vs. 6-4 Denison, 28-7 vs. 8-2 Wooster, playoff loss: 20-17 vs. Wabash in NCAA first round)
2009 CWRU (10-1, UAA champ, playoff berth, 466 PF, 207 PA, best wins: 38-24 vs. 5-4 Chicago, 53-32 vs. 5-5 Wooster, playoff loss: 51-38 vs. Trine in NCAA first round)
2011 CWRU (9-1, UAA champ, 237 PF, 129 PA, best wins: 24-17 vs. 5-5 John Carroll, 16-6 vs. 6-4 WashU, discussion of non-postseason selection below)

2000 Chicago (7-2, UAA champ, 193 PF, 106 PA, best wins: 13-3 vs. 6-3 Rochester, 20-6 vs. 6-4 CMU, 12-9 vs. 5-4 WashU)
2010 Chicago (8-2, UAA champ, 317 PF, 190 PA, best wins: 56-24 vs. 8-2 Concordia-Chicago, 24-20 vs. 8-2 Case Western, 13-10 vs. 7-3 WashU for UAA title)

1999 WashU (8-3, UAA champ, playoff berth, 259 PF, 152 PA, best wins: 24-7 vs. 8-3 CMU, 12-7 vs. 6-3 Rhodes, playoff loss: 28-21 vs. Hardin-Simmons)
2001 WashU (8-2, UAA champ, 226 PF, 128 PA, best wins: 17-7 vs. 8-2 Albion, 17-14 vs. 7-2 Illinois Wesleyan, 17-7 vs. 7-2 CMU, 21-17 vs. 6-3 Chicago)
2010 WashU (7-3, 190 PF, 139 PA, best wins: 24-20 vs. 8-2 Wabash, 14-13 vs. 8-2 CWRU)
2013 WashU (8-3, UAA champ, playoff berth, 209 PF, 127 PA, best wins: 10-7 vs. 8-2 Rhodes, 31-14 vs. 7-3 Centre, 17-7 vs. 6-4 Chicago, notable loss: 17-7 vs. eventual national champion UW-Whitewater, playoff loss: 17-10 vs. Franklin)

(Results posted on the next page)
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http://athletics.cmu.edu/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120629a4jaxa

ADL70

#3312
Nice analysis.

I'd go with 2008 as best for CWRU, mostly same players from 2007 with more experience, who had more convincing wins than 2007 team and came within one play of beating Wabash in playoffs, losing 17-20 in the final minute on a kinda fluky long TD pass.

2014 Spartans preview:

http://athletics.case.edu/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/2014072599llj7
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ExTartanPlayer

#3313
Quote from: ADL70 on July 28, 2014, 12:26:40 PM
Nice analysis.

I'd go with 2008 as best for CWRU, mostly same players from 2007 with more experience, who had more convincing wins than 2007 team and came within one play of beating Wabash in playoffs, losing 17-20 in the final minute on a kinda fluky long TD pass.

Probably will agree with you on CWRU's best team...I will keep filling in more info on this post throughout the day during mini-breaks from work.  Could be awhile til I've filled in all of the stats and stuff that I want to...I'll just keep editing and saving the post as I go.  Just seems like a neat little conversation topic and something to record here for posterity as we're 15 years into the "D3football.com era" so to speak.  I will be as unbiased and objective as I can, trying to account for things like quality wins and dominance rather than just ranking teams by final record.

Edited to add: this will be reflected in the final rankings I post, but yeah, CWRU's 2008 team was almost definitely the best of the group.  Will explain in detail later.
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http://athletics.cmu.edu/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120629a4jaxa

ADL70

I'm still pondering whether to pick 2006 CMU or 2008 CWRU as top UAA team.

Convincing CMU playoff win over Millsaps might be the edge, but then next was the 0-37 loss although to #7 Wesley. 

2006 CMU #22
2008 CWRU #21
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