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ADL70

D: all 11 return

O:  3 OL   FB   RB   2+ WR

ST  All

Of note: it appears FR QB Simpson will not return, leaving Cuda as heir apparent at QB
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ADL70

#3466
With Liberty League losing its affiliated and dropping to five football schools, could Rochester lure fellow UAA mates CWRU and CMU to LL?

PAC doesn't need them for AQ and in fact they make PAC football an unwieldy 11 teams.

Travel to St Lawrence, RPI, and Union would be tough though (around 500 miles).
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ExTartanPlayer

It's an interesting thought...

It's kind of an odd geographic fit.  And there is the fact that Rochester left the UAA in football a decade ago, leaving an already-thin football conference even thinner.  I don't think the current University admins would worry too much about that, just saying.

Would the remaining E8 schools go for it? I have to imagine they'd rather get someone closer, but I don't know who's poach-able and closer by.

Ultimately, I think the travel makes in unattractive for CMU and CWRU.  IMO the attraction of the PAC is that all of the schools are in fairly easy driving distance, so the only long trips are WashU and Chicago. Do they really want to go back to 3-4 overnights a year?

I mean, if the PAC kicks out CMU and Case, it's an option.
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http://athletics.cmu.edu/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120629a4jaxa

ADL70

You meant LL not E8, right?

I posted the thought on LL Board, but no replies yet.

I suspect that Rochester left the UAA more for travel considerations that AQ availability.
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ExTartanPlayer

Yeah, that's a whoopsie on my part.  For some reason I occasionally lapse back and forth when talking about LL / E8.  I did mean LL.

I think the only way this would happen is if the PAC full members told CMU and CWRU to get lost, be that because they don't like accommodating CMU/CWRU's desire to retain the UAA schedule or just because they don't like having affiliate members.  TBH, I understand that the PAC really did CMU/CWRU a solid and really has no obligation to extend this affiliate membership, and if they did tell CMU and Case to take a hike, perhaps seeking refuge in the LL could happen.  Competitively it's not a bad fit, and we road-tripped to both Rochester & Hobart back in my senior year anyway.  I think the LL would seek other options, but if this is a way for them to keep an AQ, they might try it.
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http://athletics.cmu.edu/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120629a4jaxa

ADL70

Chicago announces 32 incoming frosh (10 from Cali):

http://athletics.uchicago.edu/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20150318rtae5n


The only objection I can see to PAC retaining CWRU and CMU would be that 11 teams means no round robin.

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DagarmanSpartan

I realize that we have 3 OL starters returning, but I just looked at our roster list, and we look rather undersized.

I hope that Coach D brings in some hogs!!!

ADL70

I think that quick feet and technique trump size, besides those returning starters are 6'3 270, 6'1 300, and 6'1 260.  Returning backups are 6'2 260 and 6'4 260 and the frosh go 6'3 260, 6'4 285, and 6'2 270.  That's pretty good size for D3.
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DagarmanSpartan

Coach D announces his latest recruiting class.

A lot of linemen on both sides.

Sadly, only one QB.

36 new players in all.

http://athletics.case.edu/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/2015050516xa1m

ADL70

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ExTartanPlayer

CMU incoming class:

http://athletics.cmu.edu/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20150521frdp3v

33 recruits, 15 states, one representative of my HS alma mater.

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http://athletics.cmu.edu/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120629a4jaxa

martin

Wash U is joining the CCIW as an associate member for football in 2018.
http://bearsports.wustl.edu/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/20150611z55r5g

Chicago is also leaving the SAA after the 2017 season.  No new football conference affiliation has been announced.
http://athletics.uchicago.edu/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20150612631ks3

Wash U will only play Chicago - no more games with CMU and CWRU.
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jknezek

That's interesting. The SAA affiliation was unwieldy. Chicago will need to find someone to play. Being a D3 independent is a cast iron witch after the first two or three weeks of the season. Shame about losing the UAA rivalries.

wally_wabash

I was wondering how much longer the UAA thing would carry on once those four teams started making conference affiliations.  I can't say that I'm really surprised that those games will be ending in earnest- it's just really difficult to fit three other games in while also being fair to the conference that has agreed to share their Pool A access with you. 

As for WashU in the CCIW- super interesting.  Equally interesting is how quickly the CCIW has outfitted itself with 10 teams.  I presume they'll go full round robin here and play just one out of conference per season- a growing trend.  September scheduling is a nightmare and a 9-game league schedule eliminates most of the headache.  It comes at the expense of your SOS, but that's a price many are happy to pay. 
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ADL70

#3479
Chicago could affiliate with the seven-team NACC.
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