University Athletic Association

[frank uible]

martin: Strictly speeking Amasa Stone did not found Western Reserve University, but about 1860 he offered $600,00 to the University if it would move to Cleveland from Hudson Ohio. It did. At one time (I believe until the merger with Case Tech) WRU's men's undergraduate college was called Adelbert, the first name of Stone's son, and the women's undergraduate college was called Flora Stone Mather, his daughter's married name. One of the streets running through the CWRU campus is Adelbert Road. Incidentally when WRU moved to Cleveland, it left its campus in Hudson to its college preparatory academy, Western Reserve Academy, which today is independent of CWRU, has its own large endowment, still functions as a prep school and continues to be situated there. cwru, please feel free to correct my errors in history. martin, are you still awake?

[scotty]

this is better than the History Channel...how do i subscribe...

[frank uible]

Stay tuned - no charge.

[ADL70]

Whalen has an arm.  Most impressive was a bull's-eye bullet, while scrambling, from about the left hash to the right sideline 25 yds downfield.  Szep indeed apparently gave up the game once he got to OSU.

The former WRU men's teams competed as Adelbert College of CWRU from 67-69 (and perhaps until 70-71 in BB).  Frank, the administration prefers to refer to the conjoining as a federation.  And there is the Amasa (affectionately referred to as "Massive") Stone Chapel on Euclid Ave

[frank uible]

cwru: Forgive me. I haven't lived in Greater Cleveland since 1969 and not in the University Circle area since 1956. My 71 year old memory is a little lacking.

[scotty]

cwru: Forgive me. I haven't lived in Greater Cleveland since 1969 and not in the University Circle area since 1956. My 71 year old memory is a little lacking.

at your age, would you mind posting a little quicker...so little time, so much to learn...btw, where did you grow up in Ohio...

[ADL70]

Frank...nothing to forgive.  Your history was right on.  I just added some more recent info. 

[scotty]

i feel like i am intruding...

[ADL70]

You do bring up the "Outsiders."

[frank uible]

scotty: No problem. I grew up in Cleveland. Almost on the WRU campus. On Bellflower Road  literally between the Beta house (long demolished) and the Phi Gam house (still standing and still the Phi Gam house). When I was 5 the Betas gave me a genuine Beta ring - wish I had it today - don't know where it went. When I was 10, delivered The Cleveland Press to the fraternity houses on Bellflower, among other places. Dropped a subscription off at the Deke house (also long demolished) two doors down from my house on the the northeast corner of the intersection of Bellflower and Ford Drive - handed it once or twice to Warren Lahr sitting on the Deke front porch. If you don't know who Lahr is and if you are curious, google "warren lahr football". Best player WRU or Case or CWRU or Baldwin-Wallace or John Carroll ever had - Pro HOF quality - deserves to be there.

[BDTartan]

Martin - Forgive me if I seem lazy, but I felt that posting all the info as you did would do little do stir "football" discussion and I was more or less right.  I was trying to get some people talking about it, not just hand them the whole enchilada and then taking it back and eating it as you did.  I by no means want to get under anyone's skin about this, but the fact is - I have no history to tell you, I don't go to any of these schools I am just a fan of my brother, who plays for CMU.  I don't mind learning about history, but that seems to be all I have been reading on here for a while.  Oh Well!!

Who is everyone playing this weekend.  I know CMU is at home against Westminster.

Anybody else???

[formerd3db]

BDTartan:
I can understand your point.  At times, we have the same problem over on the MIAA board.  On the other hand, I will submit, that while the main intent at least during the season is to have discussion about the actual football activities going, this site (all the boards and categories) is/are also for the history of the game associated with the small colleges.  Those topics are all relevant; besides, your site and ours can use the discussions/posts as we're way behind the other boards!

Moreover, IMO, more of our colleagues (and that includes everyone from fans to players, alumni, etc., etc.) and especially the young players/and former players should know more about the traditions and history of the small schools (although keeping in mind that we do like to encourage current players and coaches to observe the "unwritten etiquette rule" about not posting during the season ).  Unfortunately, too many of them have no idea about this, which I personally think is disappointing; but then again, to each his own.  Nonetheless, as I mentioned, at least this has generated some discussion on your board, but again, you are right it would be even better if more of your UAA colleagues would contribute some football discussion about the current season for their teams.

P.S. I know you guys temporarily lost one faithful and regular poster on here at least for the football in-season as he is currently serving as the head varsity football coach for a high school this season!   

[scotty]

You do bring up the "Outsiders."

only when "time will let me"...btw, did Sam Shepherd attend CWRU...i know Ernie Anderson aka Ghoulardi did but wasn't sure abour Dr Sam...

[martin]

BD Tartan - Sorry for jumping on you so hard.  My main point is that it is up to you as a poster to try to get the discussion going.  So post on what interests you rather than criticizing others for not posting on subjects that interest you.

As it is, the UAA boards are not very active so anything that promotes some activity is good.

That being the case - WELCOME SCOTTY!!! You are not intruding.  If this board really gets going, maybe Greg Sager, Diehardfan and othe HOFers will drop in.

Tomorrows (Sept 16, 2006) Games:

Kenyon (1-1) at CWRU (2-0) 6pm
I would make CWRU a 10 point favorite - it will be interesting to follow Dan Whalen's progress.  He came in the second half of the Oberlin game and led CWRU to the comeback OT win, despite fumbling away the ball on his first play.  Any chance that the Angelo Mirando, who started most of 2005 (when not injured) after transferring from Div 1AA Valaparaiso will reclaim the QB job?

Westminster (0-1) at CMU (2-0) noon
I think CMU should get by Westminster.  I make them a 10 point favorite also.  Maybe 17.

Washington (2-0) at Wheaton (1-0) 1pm
Wheaton is ranked #25 in this week's poll.  The Thunder thumped a pretty good Albion team 29-10, holding Albion to 10 yards rushing.  I think the Bears have the toughest week of the UAA schools.  I make Wheaton a two touchdown favorite.

Chicago (1-0) at Elmhurst (1-0) 1pm
The Blue Jays won 21-17 at Chicago last year.  Many of the same faces on both sides of the ball this year.  In their opener, Elmhurst QB Chris Kudyba was lost for the season with a broken leg.  Kudyba is 6-1, 190 - a good runner.  He was replaced by Mike LaFleur, 5-8, 175 who completed 15 of 21 passes for 172 yards in a 34-0 victory over Benedictine.  I think Elmhurst's offense changes with LaFleur - weaker running game, stronger passing game.  Elmhurst was off last week so has had two weeks to reorganize.  I make the Blue Jays a 3 point favorite - but am predicting an upset by the Maroons.

[79jaybird]

Elmhurst/Chicago series:

2002 Chicago 46-40  (great game good ol' fashion shootout) @ Elm
2003 Elmhurst  24-0  (solid defensive game for Elm) @ Chicago
2004 Elmhurst 39-27 (late Chicago rally fell just short) @Elm
2005 Elmhurst 21-17 (very tight game throughout)  @Chicago
2006  
With the exception 2003   this has been a very good non-conf. battle between two very proud schools.
Martin- The Elmhurst team that was presented in week 1 vs. Benedictine will look different tomorrow.  (see my post on the CCIW board)  Elmhurst has "shuffled the cards" to accomodate for Kudyba's injury.  Chris, is out for the year with an ACL tear.
I think the pivotal question is can Elmhurst contain Schey  and can Chicago's Offense be able to manage the fast Elmhurst defense? 
While I think Schey is an outstanding running back,  I think Elmhurst defense  and in particular their D-Line,  will be stingy and reak havoc on the Chicago offense.  Should be a good battle tomorrow.