University Athletic Association

[ADL70]

UWStL up 6-0 halfway through 2Q.  Scores are on the team pages.

[ADL70]

26-7 final.  Looks like it will be Bears v Tartans for the title.

[BDTartan]

Yeah, I must say it was a pretty good game, but here are a few things I have to say:

1.  If CMU doesn't make bone-headed plays in the return game then the score may have been a bit bigger.
2.  CWRU's lone touchdown came against CMU's 2nd string D.(with one or two starters sprinkled in there)
3.  CMU's long TD pass was to WR Mark Davis (he runs much faster than their TE)
4.  The end of the first drive was pure risk.  CMU's kicker routinely hits 50-55 yarders in practice.
5.  The fake field goal wasn't a bad snap.  Another risk that didn't pan out like the first one did.

Overall, I thought CWRU played well enough to keep it close, but they lost the turnover battle and CMU's D bent but didn't break.  There were quite a few flags, but there could have been a ton more which I will get into later. (It may seem bias, but I have pretty good eyes.)  Tom Brew is one hell of a LB.  He was the responsible for CMU's QB going down.  He put a vicious hit on Mulkern while he was scrambling. 

My brother did well with 1 solo, 2 assists, a FF, a FR, and nearly blocked a punt.  He actually could have grabbed the ball right off the punters foot, but after a running into the kicker call against him in the F&M game he was told not to leave his feet.  Now here comes the bias part.  My brother was consistantly a held by CWRU's tackles.  ONLY one flag was thrown.  I am convinced that he could have had a few sacks and a couple more tackles if he wasn't held.  Which shows why CWRU decided to double team him with the RB in the 4th quarter. 

Other than that, I can answer any questions since I was actually at the game if you guys have any.

[ADL70]

Penalties, dropped passes, and penalties all hurt CWRU.  The D kept most of the turnovers from being turned into points though.  A moral victory for CWRU to have given up only a little over 200 yds rushing.

The only time I heard your brother's name called by the broadcasters was on the holding call.  (BTW, the broadcast will be archived in a day or three)  It seem CWRU's D also thought there was alot of holding so seems they called 'em the same for both.  But I'm so old today's blocks all look like holding to me.  Looks like Rogers got credit for the FF and FR, not your brother.

Yes Brew is a beast.  He was injured last year.  This year Decesare went down.  Hope your QB comes back.

Looks to be between you guys and WUStL.  Looks like they've got a pretty good run D as well.  Don't know why Chicago is down.  They had two big D players graduate, but much of last year's team is back.

I fully expect CMU to win out.  As I said before, I hope CWRU can win at least one UAA game and beat Grove City to go 5-5.  WUStL seems to have our number.

[Wizardman]

Yeah, I'd like to see Case finish up well. They showed against CMU that they can really play well when they dont make simple mistakes. CMU also showed that they have no problem changing up their strategy to confuse the opponent. Can we put then in the Top 25 yet?

[BDTartan]

Yes, I saw on the stats page that Rogers got credit for that, but the stats guys don't always get it right.  My brother said when he tackled the kid the ball fell out and he fell on it and it started to squirt down between his legs and Rogers was on his back practically goosing him for the ball.  I don't care and neither does my brother.  The players for CMU aren't like that.  They are a team and all they cared about was the W.  Besides, its not my brother's stats that stood out to me.  He consistantly pressured CWRU's backfield against both OT's even while being held for the better part of the game.

I don't know if CMU is top 25 material but they may squeeze in this week depending on what other top 25 teams did today.

[Pat Coleman]

Meyer is a Fr RB from Fla.

No electronic media from UChi v WUStL wonder how that's going.

The new D3 scoreboard provider doesn't seem to do very well with in game scores.  There were reports on the CWRU broadcast.

It's still endemic on the schools themselves to log in and post. D3Scoreboard is providing the scoreboard. The schools themselves still provide the scores.

Contrary to your assertion, I think we have many more in-game scores than any previous year.

[ADL70]

I will agree the stats guys don't always get it right.

Pat thanks for the word on how it works.  I will defer to your recollection from last year.  The CWRU broadcasters had most Ohio scores during the game.  I don't know what the source was.

[Pat Coleman]

Probably the old-fashioned telephone net. We'd love for schools to exchange scores over our site but many only use the 1960s technology.

[BDTartan]

So how about it, does anybody think CMU cracks the top 25 yet or will it take a convincing victory over Chicago to do it??

Or maybe even further, do they have to beat WUStL before they crack the list?

[Wizardman]

So how about it, does anybody think CMU cracks the top 25 yet or will it take a convincing victory over Chicago to do it??

Or maybe even further, do they have to beat WUStL before they crack the list?

WEll, thanks to a couple losses (UW-Oshkosh, who was 27th or so, ONU, etc.) they will either squeze in at 25 of be in the upper 20's 9They WILL get penty of voted this week). I'd rather see them in than Union, but Union would get in first before them. (I think I have to watch waht I say since everytime i mention Union I lose karma.)

[ADL70]

They would have to jump 9-10 spots to get to D3 Top 25.  Might make it in AFCA poll though.

Pat, would it be feasible (and consistent with journalistic standards) to use some trusted volunteers to monitor webcasts and websites and report?  I'd be willing when I'm not at a game.

[BDTartan]

That's why I wondered if they would have to win against Chicago and WUStL because of only being in the mid-30's in most polls.  I saw in daily dose that Pat is waiting on the WUStL game AND the Thiel game to find out if CMU is for real.  I don't know, I think they are and most likely win out.  Thiel has definitely taken a step back from last year and CMU has defended the pass much better this year.  I guess these guys probably know what they are doing and will put them in the top 25 when they feel it's time.

I am waiting for CMU to be done watching films today to check the stats page again and see if they make any corrections.  They seem to change their stats after every film session of the previous game.

[ADL70]

To make a big leap (like 10 spots), it probably takes a win over a ranked team or a lot of ranked teams losing to unranked teams.  That's why scheduling Delaware Val would be a good move next year.  That is, if playoffs and poll rankings are a goal.

Pat, the stats issue raises a question.  Does the NCAA provide for stats to be audited by watching films?  Is it required or even permitted?  And if so, is it the home stats that are official?

Looks like UChi's RB Nick Schey was injured and only got two carries v WUStL.  If he doesn't recover, CMU should have no trouble beating them. Of course yo have your own injury issue.  Any word on the QB?

WUStL seems to have settled its QB battle while CWRU's just gets murkier.  It's great to have two quality QBs.  The problem is finding which is the right one at the right time.

[BDTartan]

No word yet.  CMU has also had starting MLB Ploetzner out since the day before the CC game.  Calf injury I believe.  I may find out something on the QB this evening. 

Yes, I am sure it is tough for the voters to put a team like CMU in there with their kind of schedule.  Kind of similar to WVU getting hated on in D1. 

I have no clue about the stats thing, I just know that the Sunday after the CC game my brother had certain stats and then two days later after films were watched they were changed.

I thought Mirando and Whalen were virtually the same QB, maybe Whalen had a little more mobility, but Mirando hung in there better against pressure.