University Athletic Association

[Pat Coleman]

Also, you can perceive what you want about your coaches being better than any coaches CMU would ever have, but at least Lackner wouldn't be running it up and he wouldn't have his best players in a game that's out of hand when they have an upcoming game the next week.

Last time I was at a CMU game they were still running it with their top players on an 0-8 team in a game they led 48-0. You can't say anything with certainty. I think the losing team certainly felt it was run up on.

[ExTartanPlayer]

Pat -

When was that?  Certainly not in the last few years.  This year, the first team was out in the fourth quarter of most of the games, once we had about a 20-point margin in the late third or fourth quarter, the first team was done.  Colorado was one exception because their offense continued to score, so the first team stayed in til about 7 or 8 minutes to go, leaving with a 43-14 lead.  In the second half of the season, the games were closer against tougher competition so the first team was in until the end (except for the Bethany game, where the first team left mid-third quarter).  The second team also saw action against Chicago, at the end with a 27-0 lead.

Point being, this year CMU didn't run it up against anyone.  If the coaches did truly run it up on an 0-8 team, I'm just curious when it happened.  I don't recall any such incidents since I have come to CMU.

[79jaybird]

Any insight into Chicago and how they will be in 2007?  Don Maloney always seems to have quality players on his roster.

[SaintsFAN]

and i do believe these boys could stand up and hold their own against anyone even muc....

[Pat Coleman]

Pat -

When was that?  Certainly not in the last few years. 

Was some years ago, but definitely in the Lackner era.

Point being, you can't make assumptions based on a season or two without knowing history.

[PA_wesleyfan]

As far as they playcalling in the 4th qtr. (the long pass to clarke, the pass to robinson ahead by 31) my issue isn't so much the play calling but why have robinson, clarke, warrick,etc risk injury in a game that has already been decided? I think that's stupid. This is a team that has a legitmate shot at a national title and the coaches are being cute in a game where they have a 37 point lead? Stupid.

Sometimes coaches are "cute" because they want to put stuff on tape for future playoff opponents to have to worry about. That's a pretty common staple for coaches who have been there before.

  Pat

  Robinson has been playing slot back/wide out for weeks now as a blocker and has had one other pass thrown his way. The kid is a great athlete and is not the first player at Wesley to play both ways.

[BDTartan]

Thanks for your 2 cents Pat.  You guys can discuss Wesley all you want, I said I'm done with it and that's what I am.  I feel like some things could have been handled differently in that game and I'm not arguing about it.  As I said, let the Tartans take it as a lesson and work hard during the offseason and come back stronger in 07'.

[Pat Coleman]

I just got this e-mail from the parent of a CMU starter. Withholding the name because I did not tell him it might be used this way:

As with most levels of competition, there is a food chain of superiority, and D-III is no different as we found out last weekend in Dover. Wesley College has an outstanding team and I, for one, intend to root for them as they continue on their way through the bracket. Our visit to Dover from (our hometown) was, with the exception of the outcome of the game, a most pleasant one. The players, coaches, and fans behaved with class and we befriended several in the stands who came to sit on the sunnier visitors side rather than in the sun-protected home stands.

One of the things we have most appreciated about D-III is the friendliness and camaraderie that exists among fans and players. With few exceptions, (our son) relays to us how classy most players and coaches are during and after games. Wesley was no exception.

[ADL70]

There was also a post on the AFCA board from Tartanplayer commenting on positives of the game experience.

Pat, I'm guessing that was 1993, but didn't CUA beat Galludet?  Or were they a club that year?

[BDTartan]

Well, I only spoke for myself.  I know my time was not as enjoyable as others.  The city was great and all, just the game experience kind of killed it for me.  Besides, a nine hour drive adds to grumpiness.

[ADL70]

Maybe this will cheer ya up.  There's a shot of your brother making a tackle in the photo gallery, next to last page.

http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=1452

[BDTartan]

thanks cwru70.  I believe that was his sack.  It was a good play.

[ADL70]

Any insight into Chicago and how they will be in 2007?  Don Maloney always seems to have quality players on his roster.

I think they lose a lot from a disappointing season.  I'll let the UChi faithful add their thoughts.

[dedragon]

As far as they playcalling in the 4th qtr. (the long pass to clarke, the pass to robinson ahead by 31) my issue isn't so much the play calling but why have robinson, clarke, warrick,etc risk injury in a game that has already been decided? I think that's stupid. This is a team that has a legitmate shot at a national title and the coaches are being cute in a game where they have a 37 point lead? Stupid.

Sometimes coaches are "cute" because they want to put stuff on tape for future playoff opponents to have to worry about. That's a pretty common staple for coaches who have been there before.

  Pat

  Robinson has been playing slot back/wide out for weeks now as a blocker and has had one other pass thrown his way. The kid is a great athlete and is not the first player at Wesley to play both ways.

Robinson has been lining up as the second TE in short yardage situations, however, for the first time last week he split out and was used as a blocker on a quick throw. 

[79jaybird]

CWRU70  I agree.  Going into 2007 Chicago was expected/predicted to be strong, and their overall record was a disappointment.  I know they lost a few Seniors, but was looking for a Chicago poster to fill me in on who's returning/lost etc.