University Athletic Association

ADL70 · November 19, 2007, 08:19:08 PM

Here's something to ponder:

Week 10: Washington
11: Wesleyan
12: Widener
13: Wabash ?
14: Whitewater ?

Keep the Ws coming!!!

BDTartan · November 20, 2007, 02:18:40 AM

Nice play on words there cwru70, but those W's are going to get tougher and tougher. I think a win against Wabash would be an upset, getting past Whitewater would be one of the biggest upsets in college football history in my opinion and say you play Mount for the title and win.......well, I'm thinking I should get right with Jesus cuz' the end of the world wouldn't be far behind.

MajorSpartan - Are you so wrapped up in the glory of the 07' Spartans that you fail to see what TartanPlayer told you and what I failed to realize coming into this year?? Don't tell me that anybody who knew the UAA didn't expect CMU to do this year what you are saying CWRU will do next? Because alot of folks expected another playoff run from the Tartans, but as one of their own players stated to you, the ball doesn't always bounce the same way. And yes, he is absolutely correct about the implications of losing a top DIII player like Brew. CMU's secondary was nowhere near what it was last year, or the three years before that, when they had Aaron Lewis. Even though I felt the secondary was just as talented, sometimes when you lose a guy with that much experience and he's making all the calls, well, you just can't replace that. I wouldn't be surprised to see that CWRU doesn't handle the run as well next year without Brew roaming around making the calls at LB.

DagarmanSpartan · November 20, 2007, 06:26:24 AM

Just cuz you guys failed to live up to expectations, don't assume that we will.

Just kidding.

Seriously though. Whalen and Calderone have nearly as much of an impact on the team as Brew, and to the best of my knowledge, they'll both be back. Brew is a big loss, but there's plenty of talent returning to keep the momentum rolling.

BDTartan · November 20, 2007, 07:57:30 AM

You must be an ass man because there is always a but with you. You don't think Sivek and Gimson were impact guys for CMU or Scholl was on the defensive side. Even before this year?? Don't forget that if a couple of balls bounce the other way your Spartans are only 1-2 in the UAA and miss the playoffs. I don't really give a hoot what you think, I was at the Academic Bowl and that game is a coin toss no matter how many times you play it. CWRU isn't miles ahead of CMU or WUStL. The Spartans did a very good job of limiting mistakes and taking advantage of opportunities. Something CMU did in 06' but failed to do in 07'. Had they done some things better the Tartans may have been in the field of 32, but it didn't work it out that way. Next year is next year. Your team still has a game this weekend.......be thankful for that and worry about next year in August of 08'!!

By the way, thanks for giving my brother and company some bulletin board material and incentive for next year's Academic Bowl.

ADL70 · November 20, 2007, 08:06:46 AM

As I said some time ago, the three top teams were so close that if the games between them were replayed there could be eight diferent outcomes. The past four years have had four different champions.

And look at the CWRU soccer team's failure to repeat.

But

let's take care of this year.

UAA Follower · November 20, 2007, 09:46:23 AM

The cards fell right for CMU last year in terms of schedule and team composition the same way they fell this year for CWRU. The UAA has been most competitive these past few years since the run by WUStl and it makes for a much more interesting league. Even Chicago got into the championship mix. It is justified for Spartan fans to be optimistic about next year just as it was for Tartan fans this season with the number of returning starters they have. Great players like Brew and Lewis are always missed when they graduate but such is the nature of college ball. WUStl hasn't quite been the same since they lost Brad Duesing and Wethington. As always, it will get down to many variables and factors such as offseason dedication, who actually returns next year and whether they improve or not, how next year's teams gel in terms of chemistry, and, according to Major Spartan, how many players show up to play from those who were admitted to school, right?

Just kidding, of course, but, as several have said, let's focus on Case advancing to the championship game of its bracket. They have a somewhat better draw than CMU did last year playing Wabash instead of a outstanding and productive Wesley team. The bracket is more wide open now, especially with No.1 seed W & J knocked out.

Good Luck Spartans. Make all of us UAA fans proud.

BDTartan · November 20, 2007, 12:53:06 PM

Although I totally agree with the fact that optimism should be allowed and also encouraged because as you say these runs by UAA teams are only helping out the cred, but MajorSpartan is talking about a team all of the sudden becoming a powerhouse and making a run at Mount. He may have been joking, but a little bit of success sometimes leads to a mis-interpreted bravado. As I said, next year is next year. Talk is also cheap. I hope CWRU makes a deep run this year because there are no guarantees past Saturday.

ExTartanPlayer · November 20, 2007, 03:34:05 PM

http://www.uaa.rochester.edu/Football/2007_All_UAA_Football_Team.pdf

All-UAA teams announced today.

ExTartanPlayer · November 20, 2007, 03:35:18 PM

Also, as cwru70 noted, interesting to see that all four UAA teams have won the conference in the past four years. If that's not a sign of a balanced conference, I don't know what is.

UAA Follower · November 20, 2007, 05:36:06 PM

I'm going to give MajorSpartan the benefit of the doubt and assume he was joking about Mount. Please, Major, tell us your were joking?

DagarmanSpartan · November 20, 2007, 05:39:08 PM

BDTartan,

Loosen up man. As you can see by the little "winky" eye, I was being facetious. Don't take everything so seriously.

I do believe, based on our returning players, including several returning All-UAA players, and the returning UAA Co-Offensive Player of the year, that we'll have a very good team next year, and could very well make a deep run in the playoffs. Such a team could very well be labeled a "powerhouse."

As for Mt. Union, like I said before, I was being somewhat facetious. They play on a completely different level than the rest of Division III. I don't expect us to seriously challenge them, but, then again, YA NEVER KNOW!!!

Peace.

ADL70 · November 20, 2007, 08:38:07 PM

At the risk of further fanning the flames under Maj, let me point out that the entire CWRU starting lineup was honored by UAA. The three WR offense with a backup RB thrown in for good measure.

Pat Coleman · November 21, 2007, 01:29:37 AM

One of the benefits of a four-team conference -- lots of spots on the All-Conference team to go around.

ADL70 · November 21, 2007, 06:54:25 AM

Usually I have preceded any mention of all UAA with that caveat. I did neglect that this time, but there are nearly as many Spartans honored as from the three other teams combined.

Oh, and Coach Debeljak has moved to #2 in COY behind DuBose.

BDTartan · November 21, 2007, 08:30:23 AM

Whatever Major, I said my piece. Always buts with you.........keep it fresh until next season cuz' I'm done squandering my time talking to you for now. Maybe next year when everybody starts out the same we can pick it back up. So, as I said, good luck to your Spartans, I hope you can make a run this year because next year ain't no guarantee.......something I, as a Tartan fan, learned this year. CMU seemed to be loaded with talent from the 06' season, but it didn't work out.

Peace yourself.