University Athletic Association

[DagarmanSpartan]

Gang,

At this time, every UAA fan, regardless of allegiance, needs to go to the Gagliardi Trophy ballot page, and vote for Tom Brew, All-American linebacker from Case Western Reserve University.

He's a tremendous asset to the university, both on, AND off the field.

[PoppaN]

He is my choice also ... go help Tom get this Trophy he surely deserves it.
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Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!!

[BDTartan]

Ummm......I think not.  Brew is a tremendous player, but 5 or 6 guys from the UAA board here aren't going to get him the trophy.  Secondly, I didn't hear anybody rallying behind him and Lewis last year when they were up for it so why should we now.  The fact of the matter.......too many candidates that people know about compared to a player from the UAA, which still lacks cred and recognition.

Happy Thanksgiving everybody.  Keep it real until 08'.  I've got one more year to root for my bro and the Tartans and then I'll allow myself to root for the entire UAA.  Sorry guys, blood is thicker than water.

[seventiesraider]

Just hoping that this great season for CWRU can continue this weekend. Best of luck against Wabash. 8)

[Spartan 81]

Here are a few interesting things about the All-UAA teams:

1st Team Offense: 14 players
1st Team Defense: 13 players
2nd Team Offense: 17 players
2nd Team Offense: 13 players
HM Offense: 5 players
HM Defense: 8 players

This is a total of 70 players honored as All-UAA.  The four teams in the conference have a combined 88 starters, so 79.5% of the starters in the conference were All-UAA.  So 4 out of every 5 starters in the league are All-UAA.  Seems a bit diluted to me. 

Also, I have always been a believer that All-Conference and All-American teams should consist of only 11 players per side of the ball, per team.  When the coach calls the "offense" out only 11 guys are able to take the field. 14 first team and 17 second team offensive players seem very rediculous to me.  Some people getting left out is not the end of the world, and then it becomes much more of an honor.

Any thoughts???

[Jonny Utah]

Here are a few interesting things about the All-UAA teams:

1st Team Offense: 14 players
1st Team Defense: 13 players
2nd Team Offense: 17 players
2nd Team Offense: 13 players
HM Offense: 5 players
HM Defense: 8 players

This is a total of 70 players honored as All-UAA.  The four teams in the conference have a combined 88 starters, so 79.5% of the starters in the conference were All-UAA.  So 4 out of every 5 starters in the league are All-UAA.  Seems a bit diluted to me. 

Also, I have always been a believer that All-Conference and All-American teams should consist of only 11 players per side of the ball, per team.  When the coach calls the "offense" out only 11 guys are able to take the field. 14 first team and 17 second team offensive players seem very rediculous to me.  Some people getting left out is not the end of the world, and then it becomes much more of an honor.

Any thoughts???

I would agree except many schools run a wide variation of offenses these days.  Your typical offense would have 5 olinemen, 1 TE, 2 Wr's, 1 TB, 1 FB, and 1 QB.  But now, many teams have 3-4 Wrs, so mabye you need 3-4 Wrs on the 1st team?  And you cant just leave out a TE or FB if they deserve it.  Overall though, there should be only 5 1st team olinemen and 1 1st team QB.  After that, you can add a few Wrs I would say.

[ADL70]

I wil confess I neglected to do the addition.  I think 12 is fitting given different alignments ( 3 and 4 WR sets and 4-3 v 3-4 or 3-5 D).  The additional players may be explained by ties.  I don't know how the votng is done.  But if each coach picks a first and second team and doesn't pick his own players, then the "honor" of honorable mention is diminished.  Especially since this is a four team conference.  I believe I shall henceforth consider only first and second team to be All-Association.  As if it matters what I think.   

[Pat Coleman]

Here are a few interesting things about the All-UAA teams:

1st Team Offense: 14 players
1st Team Defense: 13 players
2nd Team Offense: 17 players
2nd Team Offense: 13 players
HM Offense: 5 players
HM Defense: 8 players

This is a total of 70 players honored as All-UAA.  The four teams in the conference have a combined 88 starters, so 79.5% of the starters in the conference were All-UAA.  So 4 out of every 5 starters in the league are All-UAA.  Seems a bit diluted to me. 

Also, I have always been a believer that All-Conference and All-American teams should consist of only 11 players per side of the ball, per team.  When the coach calls the "offense" out only 11 guys are able to take the field. 14 first team and 17 second team offensive players seem very rediculous to me.  Some people getting left out is not the end of the world, and then it becomes much more of an honor.

Any thoughts???

I would agree except many schools run a wide variation of offenses these days.  Your typical offense would have 5 olinemen, 1 TE, 2 Wr's, 1 TB, 1 FB, and 1 QB.  But now, many teams have 3-4 Wrs, so mabye you need 3-4 Wrs on the 1st team?  And you cant just leave out a TE or FB if they deserve it.  Overall though, there should be only 5 1st team olinemen and 1 1st team QB.  After that, you can add a few Wrs I would say.

I agree with 81 in that the coach has to decide which 11 to put on the field and so should we. If his first 11 has a TE and not a FB, so be it.

[Ralph Turner]

Here are a few interesting things about the All-UAA teams:

1st Team Offense: 14 players
1st Team Defense: 13 players
2nd Team Offense: 17 players
2nd Team Offense: 13 players
HM Offense: 5 players
HM Defense: 8 players

This is a total of 70 players honored as All-UAA.  The four teams in the conference have a combined 88 starters, so 79.5% of the starters in the conference were All-UAA.  So 4 out of every 5 starters in the league are All-UAA.  Seems a bit diluted to me. 

Also, I have always been a believer that All-Conference and All-American teams should consist of only 11 players per side of the ball, per team.  When the coach calls the "offense" out only 11 guys are able to take the field. 14 first team and 17 second team offensive players seem very rediculous to me.  Some people getting left out is not the end of the world, and then it becomes much more of an honor.

Any thoughts???

Most of the players in the UAA seem to be from Lake Woebegone! 

[Jonny Utah]

Here are a few interesting things about the All-UAA teams:

1st Team Offense: 14 players
1st Team Defense: 13 players
2nd Team Offense: 17 players
2nd Team Offense: 13 players
HM Offense: 5 players
HM Defense: 8 players

This is a total of 70 players honored as All-UAA.  The four teams in the conference have a combined 88 starters, so 79.5% of the starters in the conference were All-UAA.  So 4 out of every 5 starters in the league are All-UAA.  Seems a bit diluted to me. 

Also, I have always been a believer that All-Conference and All-American teams should consist of only 11 players per side of the ball, per team.  When the coach calls the "offense" out only 11 guys are able to take the field. 14 first team and 17 second team offensive players seem very rediculous to me.  Some people getting left out is not the end of the world, and then it becomes much more of an honor.

Any thoughts???

I would agree except many schools run a wide variation of offenses these days.  Your typical offense would have 5 olinemen, 1 TE, 2 Wr's, 1 TB, 1 FB, and 1 QB.  But now, many teams have 3-4 Wrs, so mabye you need 3-4 Wrs on the 1st team?  And you cant just leave out a TE or FB if they deserve it.  Overall though, there should be only 5 1st team olinemen and 1 1st team QB.  After that, you can add a few Wrs I would say.

Wow.  I didnt even realize there were 4 teams in the league.  Might even be some backups on the 2nd team!

But I don't see any problem having an extra offensive guy if there is one.......

[ADL70]

There was a non-starting DL 2nd team last year.

[BDTartan]

Yes there was.......

Interesting, I've probably seen most of these guys in action more than most of you and I believe the majority of them deserved the conference honor they got.  I don't think some of the schools and their players in the UAA get considered for much else but the conference.  The recent success of CMU and CWRU have garnered some attention, but you have to wonder if a four team conference can keep it up.  I know their was a rare scheduling agreement between the UAA and the NCAC, but that doesn't add any teams to the conference.

[Spartan 81]

I think 12 is fitting given different alignments ( 3 and 4 WR sets and 4-3 v 3-4 or 3-5 D).  The additional players may be explained by ties. 

I can live with 12 per team.  That would honor either a 3rd RB or WR on offense, and honor 4 DL, 4 LB and 4 DB on defense.  Incedently, that is how the NCAC typically handles the defensive All-Conference team.

Speaking of All-NCAC, they gave out 11 1st team and 11 2nd team offensive, and 12 players on the 1st and 2nd defensive teams.  And that is a 10 team conference. 

Either way though, good luck to the Spartans today baby!!!  I will be there cheering 'em on.

[ADL70]

I didn't mean to suggest they weren't worthy of honor, just that there's a difference between third best in an eight team conference as opposed to a four team conference.

[bashbrother]

Congrats on a Great season.