FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[Lyco80]

Wow - some pretty good banter posters - I especially like some of the vintage trivia.

My thoughts, not that anyone asked, are teams should decide to play or not, with the guidance and input of coaches - the heck with administrators or even alumni.  I prefer to think of an invitation for continued play as simply that - an invitation.  The entity extending the courtesy did not initiate the slight - ala ECAC vice NCAA - so why focuse on the slight?  Besides, the metaphor that applies is not sour grapes - but cutting off your nose to spite your face.  Additionally, we should be careful not to confuse a very principled stand by the 1972 USA Olympic Men's Basketball team not to receive a tainted silver medal with D3 athletics especially since the USA team was never offered a bid to play by the ECAC or even declined to play another game.  They refused to accept the medal - not another chance to demonstrate their athletic prowess.  I say, accept the game, prove the pundits wrong by smashing your opponent in a rout.  This way you get more pt for your players.  Moreover, you will always prove it on the field and not the D3 chat room years later that you were indeed overlooked and deserved to be in the "big dance." 

In the end, if the team and coaches decide not to accept the invitation that is their right and perogative.  However, I still think it is a bit ungracious, unless of course you are playing opponents you already previously vanquished.

Go Warriors - Beat Albright!  Coach G may move one step closer to 250 this week.

All the best.

[Pat Coleman]

guys

You know it's funny...you accuse these kids as having sour grapes etc...

Ask ANY member of the 1972 Olympic basketball team, if they regret not standing or accepting their medals after having the gold taken from them, and I would bet none of them do for a minute....what is different here?

For these kids, it's a bureaucracy taking something away, rather than refs...but the point is still the same....

And for us older folks (And don't start the conspiracy crap) there has been a history of WU getting the short end of the stick with the NCAA...ie... the 2001 WU team not getting a home game against a BW team that came from nowhere... Gee I wonder why?  Maybe from some ouside influence?...Quote from NCAA president's council meeting...."There is a strong consensus among the Presidents Council that we ought to limit the growth of the membership in Division III.  The council is concerned about the division's numbers for all sorts of reasons," said Phillip Stone, president at Bridgewater College and chair of the Division III Presidents Council. " ...looks like backroom politics to me...

Or we can go back to 87, or 78 when the defending natl champs were not invited to the play-offs....

yes I for one am glad they did not participate...

Stone didn't join the presidents council until after 2001, I'm pretty sure.

[Pat Coleman]

2001 we were ranked #2 in the nation for most of the year, we also beat the #3 team in the nation by 16 in the second rd. we lost to #4 bw , which we should have played at home. "shafted" dont compare our 2001 team to mt unions 2001 bc we never played, if we did,  it would have never went down like it did in 2000. many will agree.

1) The NCAA doesn't care one bit what the AFCA poll says, and it shouldn't. The AFCA poll's track record is awful. That's why we started our own poll.

2) If the AFCA poll was so damn accurate, why did #4 Widener not show up until halftime at #2 Bridgewater? Losing 57-32 is hardly a statement that says this game should've been played at your place.

[Jonny Utah]

that ranking 2001 wansnt based on the 2000 walk through the east.  it was based on how well we were in 2001 not 2000.  we beat the n #3 team in the nation at home, convincingly.  then lost to the #4 team away "shafted" .  ask pat, we deserved to be #2 untill we lost. by the way, bw lost to mt union 30-27 in the stagg bowl.

good luck to widener this week! 
im taking a trip to vegas and putting my quarterly savings on delval. bc if i lose i still win!!!!  can i get a go eagles!!!

zoolander you are right, I am wrong, I was thinking about wideners 2002 team that wasnt #4 in the country.  The 2001 team deserved that ranking.....

although rowan was the team that got shafted in 2001, not widener.  They actually beat bc at bc and got shafted like no team would ever deserve to get shafted.

[dpadavona]

Widener basically told them they didnt want anything to do with them that year, because they thought they deserved to go to the ncaas.  I just dont think its right, and Widener should have played in the game.  Of course its a constalation game but its a tradition none the less.  Maybe widener people are above the ecac and tradition I dont know.

Did you mean consolation game?  Or are you referring to the ECAC Space Bowl?   

How do you feel about Ithaca turning down ECAC bids in the past?  I know there are a lot of people involved with Ithaca's and Cortland's programs who feel the the ECAC is a big letdown after the Cortacajug game, if there is no NCAA invite.  I can see where Widener was coming from.

My personal feeling is the ECAC game is a great chance to show the NCAA they made a mistake passing you by, and it is also a great opportunity to play a strong team from another area.  If you go to college to play football, I would think you would want an extra game particularly if you are a senior.

[Lyco80]

Lycoming draws first blood on a Smith keeper - PAT good

early in the first quarter Lycoming 7 - Albright 0

[Lyco80]

Lycoming turnover to Albright on a pic at the 5.  Defense holds. Murdoch fumbles the punt but recovers it

[Lyco80]

Smith again picked off and Albright O seems to be finding its way . . .

[Lyco80]

Lycoming on the 2 with half running out - Smith passes for a TD

[Lyco80]

PAT attempt is good

Lycoming 14

Albright 0

25 seconds in the half

[Lyco80]

Streaming problems with feed . . . switching to Albright and see if they have one that is up and working.

[Lyco80]

Lycoming fumble by Smith recovered on by Albright on the Lyco 20 yd line

[Lyco80]

3rd down and 9 from the 20 - Good defensive stand - now stop them on 3rd and make them kick for it

Incomplete whatever will the Lions do now?

[Lyco80]

Gutsy call and they went for it TD - but laundry on the field . . .

preliminary indication is against Albright.

[Lyco80]

Penalty against Albright, ineligible receiver, nullifies TD giving ball over to Lycoming as touchback on their own 20.

Talk about dodging a bullet!!!