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[radiomike]

Yea but I think you can go two men and two womens sports though......

I have not heard of that...Can you give an example? The NCAA has always held it to one sport for each gender.

[Lyco80]

Hey - great chatter - and since exception seems to be the norm regarding moving up, moving out or whatever, why not implement some sort of rule that considers dominance in a sport at any level - of course noting that USC cannot turn pro much to the dismay of L.A. football fans - as a factor in changing levels?

All I am saying is give peace a chance.

As to Lycoming's football team moving - I have no information regarding a change in league and certainly the school has no plans to deconstruct the program.

Glad to see all the ebb and flow about the whole matter.  Learning much from you, I am.

ATB

[bobturkviking]

GA Mangus is listed (in wisconsin newspapers) as a finalist to be one of the new assistants at the University of Wisconsin under new head coach Brett Bielema.

[Lyco80]

Bob,

When will the decision be announced?

Interesting, verrrrryyyyy interesting indeed.

ATB

[bobturkviking]

Don't know...it was in papers today.  I'd guess they'd start announcing the new staff after wisc.'s bowl game (Jan.2).

[Pat Coleman]

This was bandied about on this board around a month ago after the Milwaukee paper wrote about it, so it's not really a surprise.

[Garnet]

To follow up, it is permitted in some sports. But I specifically cited football and basketball (ahem, the money sports) for a reason. Hockey is a sport where several D-III and D-II schools play a sport at Division I. It's happened in field hockey, soccer, wrestling, baseball. But it is not permitted in football -- that's why schools like Iona, Georgetown, St. Peter's, Dayton, and the like were forced to leave Division III football more than a decade ago.

Left off the list is water polo, and some of the multi-divisional teams sports, such as fencing, rifle, gymnastics, skiing, Men's Volleyball.

Hobart and Johns Hopkins has its Men's Lacrosse Programs at Division I. JHU also has its Women's program at Division I.

However, Johns Hopkins' and Hobart's Football programs are both DIII and non-scholarship. And, so is Hobart's Lacrosse program. RIT's newly elevated hockey program likewise, will also be non-scholarship. You can take two teams up, but you have to play by the tougher of the D1 or DIII rules that govern that sport.

Hopkins Lax teams, Union's, Clarkson's, and RPI's hockey teams do offer scholarships, due to a gradfather clause in the NCAA's rules, that was reaffirmed by the DIII President's last year, and will be very tough to change. So, if you want to go DI in hoops and/or in football, you have to take all the sports up.

Union does not offer scholarships.  Financial aid is need based.

[MACguy]

who wins the MAC next season??

[Warren Thompson]

who wins the MAC next season??

Whoever can beat DelValley. 

[Jonny Utah]

Yea but I think you can go two men and two womens sports though......

I have not heard of that...Can you give an example? The NCAA has always held it to one sport for each gender.

Actually I double checked and there are none, but there used to be.  Now many sports have national championships that includes all divisions because there are too few sports to have divisional championships.  I dont know the specific sports for sure but I think its mostly womens sports. (womens skiing, bowling, rifle, squash, archery, equestrian) and the mens sports are mixed skiing, fencing and some other random sports.)

Schools like Williams used to have d1 skiing, now they are just d3 but can compete in the ncaa nationals with other divisional teams.

[Lyco80]

who wins the MAC next season??

Whoever can beat DelValley. 

Warren,

Concur - and, the bigger question will be - what will become of the MAC after the defections?  Will it be one happy league without the conferences?  Or, will other teams be persuaded to join the merry band?

Happy New Year to all MAC players, fans, parents and posters.

ATB

[Warren Thompson]

Warren,

Concur - and, the bigger question will be - what will become of the MAC after the defections?  Will it be one happy league without the conferences?  Or, will other teams be persuaded to join the merry ban

ATB

While I've not lately spoken with anyone in the know, there are rumors of additional defections as well as aspirants to membership.

BTW given the history of the MAC, it has seldom been "one happy league," especially since the events that led to the formation of the Centennial. 

[MACguy]

im not talkin about other questions... i was wondering opinions on who wins the mac... with del val returning 18 and wilkes bringing back 20 starters... and even widener should be at the top... im likin wilkes as of now... but ive come to agree del val will still be near the top with or without magnus.... wilkes... wat do u think?

[radiomike]

Union does not offer scholarships.  Financial aid is need based.

Shoot...I knew that...I meant St. Lawrence...I thought I edited it, but it did not take and I did not double check it. Sorry

[jb]

Everyone have a happy new year....and I can't wait until august gets here.

JB