FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[PBR...]

JM i think everyones point is do you really take the recruiters at their word? there are lots of obvious reasons why a student/athlete may not go to a certain school...academics absolutely....but also could be may be the recruiter was beaten out by another recruiter plan and simple and its a easy crutch to say "they couldnt get in because of admissions..." lots of other reasons as well why a person may choose to go to another school other than admissions....before you get your knickers in a bunch i am not saying you dont know these recruiters well enough to take them at their word but coaches are competitive people as well and its not easy to admit you lost a prize recruit for any reason but it could be conceivably be a little easier to tell people "they couldnt get in here due to our high admission standards..." but i do agree with most of your post jm

[john merrick]

uPBRmeASAP,
Thanks for your input.  You make a good point.  It would be very easy for a recruiter to say that they couldn't get a kid in because of admissions.  One last question though before I let this topic die. 

Do most of the posters on this board (Pat included) believe that every MAC school has the same admissions requirements?  If you answer no, then you are agreeing with me.

[FearTheRam]

JM your case would be thrown out of court in a heartbeat! You proved my point. Your "proof" is hearsay, and unless you've personally seen the kids' transcripts than you shouldn't be spreading rumor and inunendo. If however, it makes you feel better about your school's lack of success to blame it on another's admissions policies than who am I to burst your bubble.

MOJO you've made some excellent points in your post and obviously are not bitter and trying to grind your axe at DVC's expense. Admissions in the MAC are just like every other school in ever other conference, they are made on a case-by-case basis the reasons one kid gets in versus another is totally up to the individual admissions officer. Additionally, the choice is up to the player when multiple offers are on the table, their reasons for choosing one over the other are varied, but I can tell you that my son received more of a package from DVC than 2 other MAC school's that were recruiting him(yes one was the vaunted LVC)that and the fact that GA was there sealed the deal. PS he's very glad he made that choice even though GA moved on.

So I still haven't gotten any feedback on the strengths and weaknesses of Susquhanna.

[Warren Thompson]

... the vaunted LVC ... [?]

Exactly who is "vaunting" LVC?

[john merrick]

FearTheRam,
My schools success or lack there of has no bearing on the argument.  As I have said now, 4 times at least?  I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH RECRUITING MARGINAL STUDENT/ATHLETES.  I WISH ALL SCHOOLS WOULD DO MORE OF IT.  And also notice, I haven't stated that DV does that, only that they have been accused of it.  So, get your facts straight.

[PBR...]

LOL Warren !!! your boyz couldnt hold the fort this past weekend !! rats couldnt help your dvc brethren out!!  lvc has some good things going on not that is any consoliation for you

[kate]

Getting it straight here - it's Shenandoah University in Winchester, Virginia - a great performing arts college!

[Warren Thompson]

LOL Warren !!! your boyz couldnt hold the fort this past weekend !! rats couldnt help your dvc brethren out!!  lvc has some good things going on not that is any consoliation for you

Well, this Valley did its best to help out your Valley. Close, but just not
quite enough. The Wilkes coach was quoted as saying after the game: "I'm just happy to get the hell out of here [Annville] with a win."

[bman]

Warren

I will "Vaunt" LVC if you want me too...

I don't want to get in on this discussion (it's old/tired), but there was significant public debate over this exact thing in the NESCAC a few years back, over coaches exemptions to the admissions process for hockey and a few other sports.

Point being, regardless how much no one wants to admit it, it happens at every school to some degree...

[Pat Coleman]

No, not every school has the same admissions requirements, stating the obvious.

No, not every recruiter tells the truth as to why his school didn't get a particular kid. Admissions policy is a convenient scapegoat, being a closed process and all.

[Warren Thompson]

Warren

I will "Vaunt" LVC if you want me too...

OK "vaunt" away, but only "vaunce." 

[john merrick]

Pat,
Then how can you argue my point?  I'm flabbergasted!

[HANGTIME]

Who said this board is dead???  Me for one.  Can we talk MAC football here??  This admissions, recruitment, marginal academic players and ALL Academic players thing was beat to death last year ad nauseum.  Can we move on???

Is anyone going to pull for any team to knock off Wilkes this year to make the MAC race really interesting?

The Aggies take on Susquehanna this Saturday and I hope that the "O" line show up at least one more time this year. The Aggies had a win last week at Albright but it was ugly. Turnovers will cost you a ballgame and they had their share of them. Then again did the Aggies figure this was a 1-4 team and look past them?? In anyevent I am sure they did their best at the time.
However, here we go again, the play calling again was sub standard, IN MY OPINION ONLY!!!!
When the off tackle left and right dosent  work why do you continue to run it?  When the screen pass hasnt worked all day why do you run it on 4th and 5???  There is so much talent on this team I dont understand why the "O" line looks so bad this year. If they would hold their blocks the QB can connect with the AA wideouts for many yards and scores and I know you also need a running game. That would allow the running game to open things up a bit.  Last Saturday against Albright , they were only rushing a three man front and the line still could not hold them, I dont get it, maybe I never will. Then again with 8 men in the box they continued to run the ball without much success. Come on guys please step it up.

I overheard a remark that the Del Val parents were spoiled over the last three years...this is true, look at the record and these same players have been playing together for 2, 3 and now 4 years. The talent is there, I think they need to be turned loose as these players know how to win ball games.

[HANGTIME]

uPBRmeASAP.....cant make the game this week, have a family wedding to attend. Can you imagine anyone scheduling a wedding during football season? Some Nerve!!

I see you are still in good standing with the Karma Gods and this is late in the season.  Hope to catch you at the Juniata game.

GO AGGIES....GO WIDENER this week!

[PBR...]

hangtime...poor planning indeed!!  hopefully the boys from dvc have a solid showing this weekend and keep improving week to week.