FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[WUMAC]

Who said this board is dead???  Me for one.  Can we talk MAC football here??  This admissions, recruitment, marginal academic players and ALL Academic players thing was beat to death last year ad nauseum.  Can we move on???

Is anyone going to pull for any team to knock off Wilkes this year to make the MAC race really interesting?

Hangtime, i dont think anyone else who plays Wilkes can knock them off, LVC was the last real test. However i think it would be intresting if Kings were to win out (not likely) and the final game o fthe season would be Wilkes vs Kings for the MAC Champ, Mayors Cup, NCAA Bid, and Braging rights....

[Warren Thompson]

WUMAC:

How nice to hear that "LVC was the last real test" for Wilkes. It's been a while since the Dutchmen were able to "test" anyone. Jim Monos and staff are changing all that.

[MOJO]

Warren,
Pursuant to your comments concerning LVC, I agree.  However with that being said, I think Jim Monas has always been a great coach, as was Mike Sellichia.  I think the biggest difference with the LVC program is administration has given the current coaching staff things they would not give in the past.  Allowing the coach to be more successful.  Mona's is not a better coach today then when he got canned for supposed nonproduction.  Sellichia got caught in the same dilemma.  It's obvious that administration currently gives more support to the program than they have given in the past.  The results are a much more competitive program and a much better product on the field.  Commentary please.

[Warren Thompson]

It's obvious that [the current] administration ... gives more support to the program than they have given in the past.  The results are a much more competitive program and a much better product on the field.

That certainly seems to be the case, though I'm not all that intimate with the athletic ins-and-outs. Whatever, LVC football does appear to be on the way up (given the competition, and discounting the blanking by Kings, the Dutchmen just might be a very good 3-4 team at this stage in the season and certainly one with a chance at a winning season -- and it's been many a year since that happened: Monos coached them to a 7-3 record back in the late 80s or early 90s, as I recall).

[bill]

A question for all those who know:

What are the practice times vs. class schedules like at other MAC schools? For example, is there "athletic priority scheduling"? i.e., if you play football, you won't have classes scheduled after 2:00.
There are a number of D3 schools that do this. I know that FDU does not. For years, FDU has had to cut practice short because of classes, or have lots of players missing after/until certain times....
FDU has a lot of classes at 5:25 and 8:30 at night. While 8:30 may not be a problem, 5:25 is obviously a HUGE problem.  With the exception of Kings, I don't think any MAC schools have more than 3 full time coaches. Most have to wait until 3-3:30 to even start practice, so that the rest of the staff can be there...
At FDU, it would be a help if the kids didn't have to take night classes.
Do any other MAC schools have this problem?
Just curious...

[WUMAC]

WUMAC:

How nice to hear that "LVC was the last real test" for Wilkes. It's been a while since the Dutchmen were able to "test" anyone. Jim Monos and staff are changing all that.

Hey most of there games past two years have been very close for what that program was, you can hear it first from me LVC will be top 3 in mac next year, in front of wilkes.

[PBR...]

hey pat did you ever hear back from that guy the other day re: dvc and admissions and other schools and his crying about susquehanna?

[Dynasty07]

bill- yes other schools have that problem

[bill]

Dynasty
Thanks for the reply...What schools? Can you be more specific? Are there other problems that you are aware of?

[FearTheRam]

Bill, D-III institutions don't give athletic scholarships and thus can't make the same demands on athletes as those who do. Therefor, all students/athletes at D-III schools are students first and coaches must accept that. Additionally, depending upon a students progress towards their major some classes are only offered at certain times and are required credits toward that degree.

[Warren Thompson]

WUMAC:

How nice to hear that "LVC was the last real test" for Wilkes. It's been a while since the Dutchmen were able to "test" anyone. Jim Monos and staff are changing all that.

... you can hear it first from me LVC will be top 3 in mac next year, in front of Wilkes.

Many thanks for your kind words, but in front of Wilkes in 2007? Mercy!.

At the same time, I hope you haven't just put the hex on the Valley because we lose QB Dan Kelly after the current season.

[bill]

Ram

I did coach at D3 for 8 years, and 1-aa for 4 years...I am well aware of the scholastic demands placed upon students. However, I am aware of several schools that do have athletic priority scheduling. What I mean is, let 's say there are 2 sections of English lit. One is offered M,W,F at 9:10 am,  and the other is offered at 5:25 on T and Th. The schools that allow the athlete to be placed in the 9:10 class have a nice situation, because then the player won't have to miss practice. If there's one class they need, and it's only offered at 5:25, so be it...
This happens to be a particular situation at FDU. I just want to know what other issues some of the MAC brethren go through...

[bman]

formerwu

What's your call for this weekend against Kings?

[WUDLINE]

Bill - I know that you are very well informed on academic/atheletic conflicts at FDU . Hopefully I can shed some light on another team  in the MAC that also struggles with this situation. I know that for many years WU has practiced late on Tuesday nights ( 8:00 - 10:00) in order not to interfere with student labs. Furthermore, athletes are not allowed to miss any classes due to athletics. The coaches have worked the practices schedules in order to cause less conflict. Meaning many night practices and adjusting the practice times daily depending on academic functions. It has only become a major problem in two situations. First, JV players that have class on Mondays come late or miss games altogether so they will not receive a zero for any work done that day. Secondly, If a Prof. schedules a study group, guest speaker or out of class activity outside of the normal class time they can still consider it mandatory. Meaning those players must now chose between a practice or game (in other sports) and receiving a zero.

Bman - King's is 5 -1 but they have only played one good football team this year, and SJF beat them pretty good. I think WU has played better competition and should be more prepared for this game.

What does everyone think about WU just changing the nickname.  For those who do not know they are not the PIONEERS anymore. They are now the WU PRIDE.

[Warren Thompson]

For those who do not know, [Widener is no longer known as] the PIONEERS .... They are now the WU PRIDE.

But why? What was wrong with "Pioneers"?