FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[WUDLINE]

Upbrmeasap -
Please read my post more carefully. I stated that it was small group of fans and should not be a reflection af the team or coaches. If you are going to "throw stones" at least be accurate.

[PBR...]

excuse moi, my bad, i thought you were singling out dvc for having bad fans when a large number of colleges at all levels are having problems with fans when they buy a ticket feel it gives them the right to say and do whatever they want. btw josh looked at the photos of the dvc/lyco game and well done by all means pls come again and hopefully you will have a better experience next time....

[Josh Bowerman]

Thanks for the kind words.  Now please go purchase some photos!   

I hope to be back for the Ithaca game.

[Billman56]

MOJO...What is your current assessment of LVC's Kelly when he faces DVC's defense. How do you think he will respond??  Is he a scrambler or strictly a drop back passer??

[LVCALUM]

Billman,

I know that you directed your question to MOJO, but I am familiar with Kelly.  He is an excellent athlete and has played wide receiver, defensive back, and returned kicks during his LVC career.  I believe that he also served as the team's placekicker against WU last weekend.  Kelly is a threat to opposing defenses on the ground and in the air, and his ability to run gives defenses one more thing to worry about.

WUDLINE, thanks for the compliment about the LVC program being on the rise.  From what I hear, the administration has made a commitment to improving the football program.  I hope that these words are carried out by actions, but only time will tell.

[Warren Thompson]

WUDLINE:

Thanks for your nice words about LVC. The Dutchmen are making steady progress under Jim Monos and his staff.

While I put little stock in the notion of "moral victories" -- a loss is a loss -- Saturday's narrow three-point defeat by one of the premier D3 venues is, I think, a sign of progress. Two years ago the Pioneers ran up 70 points on the Valley. (I'm ignoring last year's 3-0 LVC win in a game that could, charitably, be described as a mud-wrestling contest -- though any sort of win v. Widener is always welcome.   )

[MOJO]

Billman,
Ditto LVCalum's comments.  It's not by accident that Kelly has been the top ranked passer in the MAC.  He's tough, smart, and athletic.  In my opinion, if he stays healthy, he will most likely break every passing record at LVC during his career.  Personnel has dictated that he be more of a play action/ scramble type player.  If given protection, Kelly will give DVC some headaches.  LVC"s O-line is a seasoned group.  With few exceptions , this O-line unit is virtually the same group that has started for the past three years.  Although vastly improved, the achielles heel for LVC, has been the defensive unit play.  This is not to say there aren't some talented players on that side of the ball, ie: Holzman (DB).  If the FOOTBALL GODS allow LVC to play O like they did last week against WU and the D to play the game of their life, DVC could be in for a unpleasant surprise.

Wudline, nice comments about LVC.  It's nice to see the coaching staff and the players finally getting some recognition from outside the LVC community.  Thanks!

[LYCOFB]

Billman: "Ugly, tasteless and classless"  describes accurately the demeanor of a number of (not all) lyco players during and after the game.

It is true that there are a number of superb athletes who play for DVC who are black!  Lycoming is exclusively white! I cannot say that I personally heard a racial slur uttered. I can say that I witnessed a cowardly blindsiding of  # 87 for DVC,   by a  LYCO defensive team player.  I am sure players  on both sides were "talking smack"  as players routinely do.  Lets hope that the ugly spectre of racism  was not the motivation for the LYCO  bad behavior today. If it iwas its time for an attitude adjustment!

Hey everyone new to this posting and messed up thats why i had to edit, but i took this quote out of Simba's responst to Billman's quote and i have news for all of you... I participated in that game and not a single part of that game or any other football game has to do with race... I in fact was the person who made the "cowardly blindsiding" hit? well i am not sure if any of you have played football in your past or currently, but its a physical game, and when someone comes across the middle of the field to catch a ball and you have a good clean shot on them, (no penalty, which there was none called on the hit) then you take it.... And the first thing after the game that i did while the post game confrontation was going on was makeing sure #87 from DEL VAL was ok, and telling him he played one heck of a game and I did not intend to hurt him... So instead of assuming things and making outrageous comments look for some factual evidence first.... o yea and i guess that the shot that our receiver took that put him out of the game was ok bc a white kid hit him right?? So there is no need to discuss that hit... 

Next point is the racial factor........ Yes Del Val is a Predominantly black team while LYCO is Predominantly white.. but are we all really going to stoop to that fact?? this is a college football game and I feel that I can speak for out entire LYCO team when I say that color has Absolutely nothing to do with any play in any game... And for those of you who feel it does get you self a copy of the LYCO vs Juniata game there was a very similar play where a player who is white (bc apparently this is an issue) ran a post from the defensive left to right and I put the same hit on him that i did on the Del Val player.... Football is Football and if you really think that you hit someone bc they are a different color then i feel sorry for you, bc problems like that i would hope would be far past you....

[guyman]

I agree with MacFan, Moravian should at least have some mention in the D3 poll.

[Billman56]

LycoFB

The response you were referring to was one that was sent to me from a poster who now has left this board and has deleted that post. Yes, I did use tasteless and classless, and at the time those words reflected my recollection of the aftermath of a very frustrating game fan wise, and I can only imagine how frustrated the players were. If I offended anyone I apologize here and now.

Wish you good luck the remainder of the season and of course injury free!!

Now lets get ready for week #5.

[Billman56]

MacFan762

Moravian is a very good team, and apparently so is Albright. I guess the better team will surface when they play this year.  I dont understand your preoccupation with the polls. Dont you feel that Moravian is getting any or enough PR???  Do you feel that Moravian should be ranked higher than Albright?  In my opinion the polls are just a guide as tho who is the stronger teams. It is not etched in stone.  Please enjoy the season.

[Billman56]

MacFan....Oops, sorry...just checked the schedule, Moravian dosent play Albright this year...How will we find out who is the better team???

[macfan762]

Bill,

No preoccupation here.  Just an observation supported by some observable facts and stats.  I acknowledge that polls are opinions and just wanted to point out that often they ignore what is clearly and plainly right in front of them.

As for the Hounds, I'm sure they are used to being overlooked.  It never seems to bother them and they continue to quietly execute with dignity and class.  Sooner or later it will be properly recognized.  In that, I have no doubt.

[splik]

So Albright, a contender for the MAC, and King's probably the most exciting game in the MAC this year and there is one post about it.  How can you not say anything about a game that ended on the last play of the game and was decided by a deflected pass?  DVC beats up Lyco and there is an ugly incident and there is no end to the discussion.  It's an ugly incident, but probably time to put it behind you and talk about some football.
So...what is the biggest matchup this week?

[bman]

Splik

There has never been many Kings posters...and Albright posters, post sporadically....other than them, who would talk about it?