FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[Warren Thompson]

mondaya:

You repeated that tired and meaningless taunt as if you actually believed it, a taunt that has all the creative zip of middle-school humor. As well, whatever your intent, you did come across as gratuitously insulting to DVC, its coaches, and its players. That's what was objectionable.

One would have to be an industrial-strength fool not to realize that D3 athletics lacks a level playing field. There's a world of difference between the haves and the have-nots of this division. Some venues make special admission provisions for athletes, some don't. Some abide strictly by the rules. Some bend, if not break, them -- and with apparent impunity

So, yes, it is indeed "the administrations of the schools that decide" and allow " ... success [however it's measured and defined] to happen." 

Whether you stay or leave this board is up to you, but bear in mind that you're probably preaching to the choir. "Veterans" of the D3 scene -- players, coaches, faculty, administrators, and just plain fans -- have long been more than slightly aware of "the reality of this facet of DIII football."

[mondaya.m.qb]

Mojo,

Coach Monos is a great example of how there are a lot of good coaches not being supported to win.  Coach Monos was let go back in 90's by LVC.  Coach Murray left avery successful program at Cortland because the new Administration at LVC promised him the world, when they couldn't deliver Coach Murray haeded back to Upstate NY.  Coach Silechia did what he could with what he had.  Coach Monos was contacted in 04 and asked what he needed to win at LVC...They must have delivered because he is inthe process turning the Dmen around with more staff, better facilities and an apparent committment by the people upstairs.

Another example is coach Dapp's career at Moravian.  He has both won and lost over periods of time as administrations have changed.  Presently a newer AD has renewed Moravian's recent success. 

Susquehanna was once one of the best(early 90's).  They are now possibly the worst team with the best facilities.  How does that happen if not by administrators?  Did their coaches forget how to coach.

The mighty Warriors of Lyco's demise might be recruits fearing G's retirement.  But I think their admissions and financial aid practices recently changed.

Juniata has prided itself on its sciences program not football.  Coach Burke turned it around for a year until everyone learned how to defend his offense.  Football is not a priority.

DVC had been horrible.  They started improving under Coach DiBennadetto.  Coach Mangus took it to the next level by recruiting everyone.  The school saw how football recruiting can help enrollment (70 extra students in class is huge) and has allowed him to recruit the players he needs.  Coach Mangus has always won when he had players(both at Widener and Ursinus).

Just a couple of examples of the influence of the other non athletic entities have on sports.

[Billman56]

upbrmeasap...I was at Saturdays game and enjoyed every minute..Next time come up and introduce yourself. we are at Middle right facing the field at the "50"

Mondaymorninga.m.QB.....All thnigs in life are not on an equal playing field also.  If you truely believe all of that crap you posted then maybe you should leave this board.  It is football season, so lets talk football, not academics.

[bossman05]

First of all lets get some things staright.......

Del Val is one of the best comprehensive schools in the nation voted on by U.S. News (26th to be exact)

Also GA puts a lot of effort into the players academics( players have manditory study more than once a week, he reviews grades, and speak to teachers on a daily basis either in person or through email to make sure his kids are in class and are not behind)

Also GA gives out Academic Excellence Awards at the end of the season at the banquet, and in the past three years the number of awards have jumped drastically to a high where del val has never been--

Anyway--- hey for u guys that picked leb val over dvc this weekend----lol
NICE PICKS LOL LOL LOL 
I still think its funnyyyy( Maybe next year )
So much for leb vals powerful offense

I said this b4, "Offense wins games, but defense wins championships"
The d cord is doing a great job at del val since joining the staff last year!

[splik]

when there is a d3womensvolleyball.com everyone at Juniata can puff their chests out with pride....until then we'll talk smack about academics!!!

Barring any upsets of DVC or a loss by Albright in the Pretzel Bowl, am I right in assuming this conference is going to decided when these two play? 

[gordonmann]

Splik:

I wouldn't look past Widener at Albright next week, though that may be the 'Pretzel Bowl.'  I could never figure out to which game that moniker applied.  I'd be interested in the story behind the name if anyone knows it.  Like me some pretzels. Yum.

Also, I think Albright/Wilkes will be an interesting test of styles as will King's/Widener.  I still think the Colonels (just one conference loss) and Monarchs will figure in this thing somehow before the season is done, even if it's just as a spoiler.

[Dynasty07]

bossman-
dvc is a high quality team, but every weekend an upset occurs somewhere, and what a better opportunity for lvc than to beat dvc. hopes were high, but they (lvc) did not play well enough to win.

what are the out looks for this weekend?

[bossman05]

Dynasty07,

I'd say dvc wins easily this weekend.......

lol

but the following weekend they have a big game vs. albright
2 weeks for del val to prepare for the lions......plus get healthy!

Dynasty07 whos ur team?

[bigdoggy]

how about widener beatin up on moravian....go us....after we win out the next five games...the big show will be widener - dvc....

let me getta WU


by the way prothro can not be stop llok up his stats

[PBR...]

mondaya.m. qb pls go on your way there are plenty of other forums to discuss your meaningless drivel.....congrats to the aggies on another win. now the off week to prepare for albright which should be a great game!! I am more than psyched and should be in attendance for that one. I cant figure lyco out my sister is a graduate and cant figure it out as well. more or less most things in life are cyclical and they had a run for a loooong time at the top. may be there are a little like penn st. and didnt have some players in recruiting classes pan out and that creates a huge hole for 2-3 years and bad records. psu is finally just now starting to regain their footing after a couple of recruiting classes never added up to anything.

[Chum Slam]

I hope and pray for a one loss Widener vs an undefeated Del Val. UTT OHHHHHHHHH ! ! ! ! ! ! !

[WUDLINE]

I was very impressed with what I watched in Chester this weekend. The freshmen is electric, and the offense is returning to form. I wish Prothro and Schmidt would have been healthy in week one. The pioneers also have a vey good D that held moravian in check most of the day despite missing four key players to injuries.

[mondaya.m.qb]

My first post stated that DVC is at on level the rest of the league another.  I did not intend this to be sarcasm.  (my outdated ivy league taunt from days prior to political correctness was meant to be the sarcasm, I missed the mark)  I do stand by my statement that DVC is playing football at a higher level than the rest of the league.  Coach Mangus and his staff are the main reason, they work their asses off teaching the game and keeping their players in check in the classroom and off the field, which is no easy job.

Everyone thinks I am preaching academics.  I am not, each school decides their own priorities.  I am just stating facts about the disparity among the schools in the MAC.  My main point is that football programs, successful or not, do not start and end in the locker room with the players and coaches.  

Warren- if entertaining useless banter about small college football makes one a "D3 veteran" I guess I am not one.  

If being a retired small college administrator and former athletic coach who now runs a successful consulting firm for small college student recruitment, retention and financial aid makes you "D3 Veteran" than I guess I am one.  Or at least the schools that hire my firm think so.

Maybe midseason is the wrong time for this subject matter, sorry.

I guess there was a reason I have read this forum for so long and never contributed.

Everyone continue with your fun...I am forever gone!!

[bman]

Monday
Relax...we blasted you because your post looked like many that have been posted in this room before...derogatory and juvenile...by posters that do that and leave...

That has made this board overly sensitive to that stuff...

You clarified your point and made some good others... no use in banning yourself...

[splik]

the pretzel bowl is sponsored by the Shriners.  I'm pretty sure it is part of a big charity event for them in Reading.  I did not notice that Widener had beaten Moravian so handily on Saturday, so there is definitely more than one test for all the league contenders.  Once again, parity rules the MAC!