FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Guys... I have seen worse in many different places and in many different sports... it wasn't that big a deal and it didn't seem like anyone had a problem with it at the game.

[pg04]

Guys... I have seen worse in many different places and in many different sports... it wasn't that big a deal and it didn't seem like anyone had a problem with it at the game.

You must have a low standard of "a big deal" I think faking what could be a serious medical problem, especially given people have been known to fall, seize, and die out of nowhere, is a REALLY big deal.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

OK... for the record... someone else described it as a seizure... NO one I have talked to or ANY of the three broadcast crews calling the game described it as such. I think most of us saw for what it was... a really bad dance move (have you seen people get on the ground and overly-flail about to get attention?). Not one person, including the officiating crew, thought it was an actual seizure or acted as such (the flag was thrown from the head ref and it wasn't after he went over to check on the coach - it was right away).

Let's not blow this completely out of proportion.

[pg04]

All right, if that's true, it's still incredibly cheesy and unsportsmanlike. Apparently just being good on the field wasn't an option.

[bman]

Dave

Can you tell us more about the play?  You mention that the QB was walking away...who wast to get the snap etc?    Can you explain the dynamics of the play, and how it should have worked?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

The play was simple, the QB went under center and gave a hard count... Widener kind of jumped... the QB then walked away from center and toward his sideline (back away from the line of scrimmage) and eventually put his arms in the air... one of the coaches tried to emphatically signal a play and the QB acted confused... another coach then hit the deck and went crazy clearly as a distraction (again, he is NOT the first coach I have seen do this on a sideline)... actually the moment the coach went to the ground the ball was snapped back to the running back who ran for five yards and the first down.

This was the fourth attempt out of five to complete what had started as a 4th and 1 on Stevenson's 34 yard line.
- The first play was a great punt (caught at the Widener 3 and returned to the 16)... but Stevenson was called for an illegal shift.
- The second play (4th and 6) Widener brought six rushers and the punt was lousy... allowing Widener to retrieve it at their own 46 and return it for a TD... but the Pride was flagged for running into the kicker and then for an illegal block (of the kicker) on the return (could have been called a "leading with the helmet" unsportsmanlike on the block).
- The third play (4th and 1) Stevenson came out with their offense... Widener called TO.
- The fourth play was as described above.
- The fifth play (4th and 16 from Stevenson's 19)... Widener once again brought the house (six guys rushing?) and the kick was decent... but still returned for a TD... except Widener was flag for roughing the kicker (they plowed him over) and Stevenson was eventually given a first down from the 34.

By the way, the score was 42-13 early in the 3rd.

[pg04]

I have never disputed that this is something that has occurred before, I'm just saying it's a really stupid and childish thing to do.

[lewdogg11]

They should've just pulled the old 'hidden ball trick'....

[dlippiel]

Actual record of that coaches interview:

Ques: "Why do you feel like you would be a good fit for this program?"

Coach: "I just love football and all the parallels it has to real life. I am a role model and a man with,a lot of personal pride."

Ques: "When things get tough during a game what do you do to motivate the players?"

Coach: "I flop on the ground like a ****ing fish!"

Ques: "No seriously coach."

Coach: " Seriously, I fake a ****ing seizure on the sidelines. It's very effective really."

[bman]

Thanks Dave, That helps put some context around it...
I should try that at my work...might be a distraction if I can't get something done...

[jmcozenlaw]

Gordon - What's going on with the audio broadcast??? It's 2012......time to let go of the two cans on the end of a string:) I'll talk to Brosnan and Wolfgang for you!!

[gordonmann]

I had a tough time with the internet connection at King's during the first half.  I resolved the problem midway through the 2nd quarter by dropping down to a low bit rate. Still better than trying to use a phone line.

[dlippiel]

Gordon please talk to dlip about this Del Val team. Looks like they are starting to really come together and have rebounded from a tough start. To you, is this a top 10 team in the east?

[bman]

I doubt a win against Kings (this year) is any kind of measuring stick...

[dlippiel]

Really not saying it does. However with a nice win over Albright and going 4-0 since losing to a good team in Rowan and a decent team in Lycoming, the aggies are controlling what they can. Hence the question to Gordan to get a little more inside info on this 2 loss team that was quite highly regarded before the season began...