FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[jmcozenlaw]

bman - What could be very interesting, for either team with the lead towards the back half of the game, is the attempt to score more points given the potential three way tie braker.

I was stunned that DelVal wasn't throwing it into the end zone on Lyco's 10 yard line with a 10 point lead and over a minute left. Since +17 is the most that you can accumulate towards the tie braker, that left me scratching my head....especially with Lyco not being able to stop DelVal all day.

We'll see if it matters.......

Here's hoping that everybody comes out healthy after the games!!

[bman]

I was stunned that DelVal wasn't throwing it into the end zone on Lyco's 10 yard line with a 10 point lead and over a minute left. Since +17 is the most that you can accumulate towards the tie braker, that left me scratching my head....especially with Lyco not being able to stop DelVal all day.

I can guarantee you, that at that point of the game, they were not thinking about 3 way MAC tiebreakers...   They leave that to us in the chat rooms...

In throwing the ball in that situation, about 10 things can happen, and 9 of them are bad...
I think they did the wise thing...
Agree that regardless of the outcomes today, teams having everyone walk off the field is the most important.

Wishing all the MAC teams luck today.

[jmcozenlaw]

Simba - I just got home from the DelVal game and put the Lycoming vs. Widener game on. OMG!!!28-10 at halftime??? Between the 52 points that DelVal laid on them and the 28 that Widener out up at the half...............Weser and Wiser looks like they had their "guru head's" handed to them.

As I write this, it is 34-17 with a little over 11 minutes left in the game so it's not over yet.

Next Up.......Step Up!!  Big 4th quarter needed by the Warriors or the preseason pick for MAC Champions are finished!!

Early spread for the Widener vs. DelVal game..................Widener -13.5

[bman]

Widener 22
Lycoming 17

Take it to the bank!

Well I had Lyco's score spot on...

I couldn't get video today...it kept kicking me out.  Any insights viewers can provide would be welcome

[jmcozenlaw]

And it's over in Williamsport!!

Simba, remind me to take the opposite side as you next time. Your 35-20 was not that far off (34-17) but the side was a smidge wrong

Lycoming gives up 1124 yards and 86 points in it's last two games........

Imagine if they didn't have the guru's Weser and Wiser.

My early line on the Widener vs. DelVal game stays, for now, subject to injuries over the next two games..............Widener -13.5

bman - Congrats on the victory and the prediction!!

[jmcozenlaw]

bman - I can't help you much as I only saw most of the 4th quarter on the computer but it looked like Lyco could not move the ball nor stop Widener. These last two weeks have got to be a kick in the gut as Lyco was the preseason MAC favorite in the eyes of the coaches.

Widener looks very good. Better than DelVal. I put a Widener -13.5 line out there 3 weeks away from the game.

My prediction.................Widener and DelVal go into the game undefeated and Widener wins, at home, by two touchdowns. DelVal's depleted defense has no shot to slow Widener down.

Widener winds up 10-0 and a #2 seed in the East. DelVal winds up 9-1 and gets a #6 seed in the East. It helps DelVal that Montclair State (whom DelVal beat Week 1 at Montclair) beat Rowan today and has the inside track for the NJAC.

It looks like the top two MAC teams beat the top two NJAC teams...........on the road

[Simba]

CONGRATULATIONS AGGIES & PRIDE!...

To the Victors go the spoils...Represent the MAC well this year in the Playoffs and make us all proud of the Conference!

Simba

[jmcozenlaw]

Simba,

I've got no real skin in the game like you and bman, I just have lived in the Doylestown area for years and have kind of adopted DelVal.

From a Lycoming perspective, and not busting stones whatsoever, what do you think happened over the last two games? I've never seen that happen to a Lycoming defense and I really thought today would be different with two weeks to prepare.

Was it talent, scheme or a little of both?

Jay

[Simba]

bman tomorrow morning.....



Simba

[Simba]

Simba,

I've got no real skin in the game like you and bman, I just have lived in the Doylestown area for years and have kind of adopted DelVal.

From a Lycoming perspective, and not busting stones whatsoever, what do you think happened over the last two games? I've never seen that happen to a Lycoming defense and I really thought today would be different with two weeks to prepare.

Was it talent, scheme or a little of both?

Jay

Jay..

Neither...I believe it was the lack of Leadership ON THE FIELD by the players!...

The "Plan" was not executed on the field by the players, hence the accountability on performance starts and ends there...

No VICTIM STATEMENTS here...We got blown away by two teams with better Leadership on the field and executed their Game Plans better than we did...

It was not the Defensive Coaching....They've seen it all the past 40yrs (Wiser), 30yrs (Weber)...and have done it all with 15 Championships and 2 Stagg Bowls since '78...

It was not the level of talent, it was the lack of "Leading by Example" of the key team leaders in my opinion...

Now we must finish out the year respectfully at 8-2 and re-load for next year!

Simba

[jmcozenlaw]

Simba - Thanks for the honest assessment. I'm hearing that there is some disappointment up in Williamsport with exactly what you mentioned, including the All-American safety. Conversely, a couple of the players were finger pointing behind closed doors about the defensive game plan in both games. It sounds more like an excuse from those players than issues with the scheme.

Finish the season strong and get an ECAC win for the MAC!!!!

Jay 

[D3MAFAN]

bman - I can't help you much as I only saw most of the 4th quarter on the computer but it looked like Lyco could not move the ball nor stop Widener. These last two weeks have got to be a kick in the gut as Lyco was the preseason MAC favorite in the eyes of the coaches.

Widener looks very good. Better than DelVal. I put a Widener -13.5 line out there 3 weeks away from the game.

My prediction.................Widener and DelVal go into the game undefeated and Widener wins, at home, by two touchdowns. DelVal's depleted defense has no shot to slow Widener down.

Widener winds up 10-0 and a #2 seed in the East. DelVal winds up 9-1 and gets a #6 seed in the East. It helps DelVal that Montclair State (whom DelVal beat Week 1 at Montclair) beat Rowan today and has the inside track for the NJAC.
It looks like the top two MAC teams beat the top two NJAC teams...........on the road

Looks to appear that way and I like your assessment.

[bman]

Wow

Board collapsed this week...How about some prdictions to lighten the mood:

Leb Val coming off their bye week explodes on FDU Florham  41-14

Stevenson pushes back, but can't break through, loses to Widener 35-20 (adding insult to injury, their bus has it's hubcaps stolen in Chester when stopping for cheesesteaks )

Lycoming takes frustrations out on Misericordia 51-7 (Simba tries to dress for the game but is stopped by NCAA officials)
Kings holds Del Val to 28, but can't score and loses to the Aggies 28-7

Albright takes an early lead, buoyed by last weeks OT thriller, and holds off a strong Wilkes charge winning 35-31

In non league action Wesley beats College of Faith 239-3   
and Mount Union beats whoever is next...by 70

[Warren Thompson]

Leb Val coming off their bye week explodes on FDU Florham  41-14

Stevenson pushes back, but can't break through, loses to Widener 35-20 (adding insult to injury, their bus has it's hubcaps stolen in Chester when stopping for cheesesteaks ::

LVC came off their bye week last week and "exploded" on Wilkes at Wilkes, 46-0.

Are the cheesesteaks in Chester good enough to risk the team bus hubcaps? Advise soonest .... 

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Considering the bad experience Stevenson had at Widener outside of the game, joking about the hubcaps won't go over well with them.