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[PBR...]

a big loss for widener this weekend....alot of things will have to happen for that last game against dvc to mean something.....ggggoooo aaagggiiiieeesssss!!!

[WUDLINE]

Gordon - I was not going to comment on the WU / Kings game until I read this comment from you.

Three Cheers: I doff my cap to Coach Rich Mannello of King's. Like cross town rival Wilkes, King's graduated a really good running back in Richard Jackson. QB Chris Barnic and the Monarchs, who endured an unreal string of tough loses, are now above .500 after likely ending Widener's title hopes.

Please do not tip your cap or commend to this man for any accomplishment. It is true that he had an excellent game plan in place for WU. However, his other actions on Saturday should not be commended and were disgraceful to all of football. I understand that you were not at the game and did not wittness some of these acts. I did, and left the field in shock at how the game was embarassing to everyone who holds football near to thier heart. Rich Mannello brought his team out after the half and gathered them on the near hash directly in front of the WU bench. He the proceeded to taunt the WU players with comments to his team while facing the pioneer players. He later refused to shake hands after the WU players had lined up on the 50 and started to walk out onto the field. He may be doing a fine job as far as the X's and O's are concerned but he is certianly lacking in other areas as a head coach.

[Lyco80]

Wow - WUDLINE - it sure sounds like most of us missed something. 

Spilk - just want to say win or lose I am a proud alumnus of Lycoming College but it is hard to post on the D3 page when you are living in a tent in Africa, Iraq or Afghanistan.  It has nothing to do with Ws or Ls and everything to do with bandwidth and access to computers and webpages.

Please do not read more into this post than is intended.  I am happy for whoever's team is excelling and wish everyone nothing but good tidings.

Simba - you continuously make me smile - keep the posts coming!

All the best.

[WUDLINE]

Lyco 80-

I honestly feel that if these actions came from other teams in the MAC everyone would have gone crazy. Just like Kings did a few years ago when Ursinus refused to shake hands after an ECAC game. On a happier note. It is nice to see Lyco back winning again. I guess all of the Lyco/Coach G bashers will have to go away for another year. It is amazing how all of the sudden G remembered how to be a great Coach again.

[patron2]

I think G is an average coach at best, but has done a great job with superior talent.  Now that his talent is gone, looks like you find out exactly how average he is..

If you want to see good coaching, go to schools that are building tradition, and winning games without everything that G has had at Lycoming... DVC, Albright, Moravian, etc.

Lycoming is done.  Put a fork in 'em.

[WUDLINE]

patron2-
It is tough to contribute all of the games Coach G has w over the years to superior talent. I have a feeling that he/coaching may have played a role in at least a few victories. However, if we simply go by your argument then his win over Ithica makes him truely a great coach. He beat the number 8th ranked team in the country with a less talanted team. It had to simply be his coaching that day. Wins and losses are not the only thing that makes a great coach. Coach G also has managed to act with class, he is well respected by both his current and past players, and recelenty has held his team together in some very trying times.

[jb]

well said WUDLINE

[dog]

WUDLINE, Funny what you said about Manello from Kings.  After the Albright Kings game this season (Albright won on the last play) he displayed the same lack of sportsmanship.  I was in attendance for the game and from the endzone I actually heard him say "Get the F- over here dont shake their hands." as his players were on the field shaking hands.  Seems like he is a real class act.

[LVCALUM]

Sounds like a very exciting game this past Saturday between LVC and Lyco.  Congratulations to Lyco on the win.

This question is mostly directed to Warren or MOJO, but I would welcome insight from anyone with ideas.  It seems like every week there is a different leading rusher for LVC.  Does Coach Monos rotate running backs, keep switching starters, or have guys been getting injured?  More stability at that position may help correct fumbling problems.  As for the kicking situation, it doesn't seem right to pin the loss all on one player.  Football is a team game, and Lyco won the game as a team, while LVC lost the game as a team. That said, we do need to improve our kicking game for the future.  As evidenced on Saturday, making extra points is crucial.  Further, on the season we are 10/18 on extra point attempts, so this miss against Lyco was not a fluke.

[bziadie]

WULINE:

You are living in a fantasy world . A very nice inaccurate account of what happened.  After the game was over Mannello wanted to talk to the Widener coach and let things settle down before the teams shook hands. He asked the referee to relay that message to the offical on the far side and he unfortunately did not do so.  So when the game ended and Mannello had his players stay on the sideline, he began to walk on the field so he could talk to Wood. Wood then assumed King's did not want to shake hands and told the team to turn back to the locker room.

After the number of near brawls, the smart thing to do was to let things cool down.

And you forgot to mention at around the 4:00 mark left in the game during another altercation when 12 to 15 Widener players came flying off the sideline racing to get at King's players on the field, several going beyond the hash mark closest to the Widener sideline.

If Mannello chose to send that game film to the conference office for review, you might very well see a number of Widener's suspended for the next game for those actions.

After seeing that, why would Mannello not be concerned that something else might happen.

Sometimes descretion is the batter part of valor. Even had Wood turner around and not wanted to shake hands, it still would not have been a bad thing considering how things played out during the game. You can try to spin it any way you want but you do not know Mannello and how he runs his program.

And your claim Mannello led the taunting when the teams returned to the field for the second half?  Well the MAC Executive Director was at the game and had Mannello done something like that, he would be suspended or seriously reprimanded by the MAC for behaving like.......

If you ever want to know about Mannello's character, all you have to do is talk to Wilkes head coach Frank Sheptock and any number of their players.  Two years ago when Wilkes beat King's badly, Mannello walked over to the entire Wilkes team and congratulated them, telling them that they "kicked our asses".

To say Mannello is unsportsmanlike is ridiculous and any claim that he would have told his players not to shake hands after the Albright game, especially when it was a cleanly played game with none of the garbage from the Widener game happening, is a complete joke.

[Billman56]

Lyco80....I appreciate your posts but one thing...Just be safe over there...I am tired of reading and hearing of all the casualties! No need to lose anymore guys there. But that is a discussion for another day.

LVCALUM...I believe the LVC kicker is a freshman, if not I stand corrected....if he is then this tough year is just seasoning for him to accel in the next few years. He was in a tough, pressure situation Saturday that I have only read about on here. Next time he should come through just fine.


GO AGGIES!!!

[WUDLINE]

bz
You obviously most not have been watching the same game. I was standing at the gate and heard Kings taunting the WU players at the start of the half. The incident you are referring to at the four minute mark was the onsides kick. Numerous players from both sides came onto the field. Off setting penalties were called and the game moved on without any further incident.  Furthermore Wood lined up all of the WU players on the 50 to shake hands and was told by Manello no. I am not exactly sure what you are reffering to about the Albright game. I did not make any referrence to it, nor did I see it. Maybe this is a case of you seeing things a certian way because of the program you support.

[splik]

Lyco80,
I apologize for making it seem you're a fairweather friend, you have nothing but my respect for serving our country.  The three pages worth of play-by-play seemed a bit overboard. 
Simba,
My wet collar aside, you did seem much quieter when Lycoming did not have a winning streak.  if I were a kettle stirrer I could just say how much I hate them and how much they smell like poop or be like patron2.
But anyway....
I've never really seen any team in the MAC behave terribly, but when I was on the field the other team was usually too out of breath to do much talking.  Is there a team that deserves to  be called classless or dirty?

[Lyco80]

Spilk,

Thanks for the post and I am proud to serve the USA, in fact, many Lycoming grads, including some superior MAC football athletes are currently wearing the nation's uniform, many in the USMC.

As for the running posts - I was receiving positive feedback and encouragement offline to keep them coming.  Additionally, Empire 8 is in the habit of doing the same thing and I got caught up in the excitement with last week's game with Ithaca on their board and it sort of carried over to this week's game.

And for anyone's information - Simba was a monster player at Lycoming and his words should never be taken lightly as he has a good heart and was a tremenduous football player.

Lastly, as for putting a fork in Lycoming - appreciate the other post comeback about noting the inconsistencies with either their talent being insufficient or their coaching being phenomenal in their upset win over IC.  Or maybe - it was on account of the IC Bombers just not being that good a team?  It has to be attributed to something.  IC is a worthy opponent and Lycoming played tough football.  Maybe it is the shoes? Lycoming is not done and neither is Coach G - they may just be catching their breath for their run up to 300 wins and beyond.

All the best. 

[Knightstalker]

Lyco80, remember to keep your head and ass down and to wear your Kevlar cup.