FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[gordonmann]

Gerhart and Moore-Jaco will be all conference and Tate is a great pick for Rookie of the Year.  But I'd be surprised if the defensive MVP doesn't come from Del Val.  Not spitting fire, but here are a few numbers for Del Val.

Points per game against: 9.1 (Top 10 in the Country coming into today)
Total yards against: 210.2 (No. 1 in the MAC)
Rushing yards against: 56.5 (Top 10 in the Country coming into today)
Passing yards against: 153.8 (No. 1 in the MAC)

If the Aggies win the conference and finish first in every major category, they will get the Defensive MVP and they should.  Plus Del Val ran for 352 yards against Wilkes a couple weeks ago.

The Aggies players don't have great numbers individually, but their defense has forced a lot of three and outs and the starters have had a lot of three quarter games.  This may be the best defense Del Val has had since 2004 and that's saying something.

[maAggie]

Well said Gordon! I think the Aggies defense showed themselves as the best defense in the conference with their total dominance of both Wilkes and Lyco. As you said there are very few 4 quarter games for the starting group as they have beaten the majority of their opponents by such a large margin. This is a fun group to watch no one runs on them, and few score TD's.

Congrats to the Aggies, coach Clem and his staff for another fine performance in beating King's. On to Albright next week and then a big finish with Widener in Doylestown!

[PBR...]

where did lyco80 disappear to? not peep from him after dvc laid the lumber to lyco....and hearing how lyco should of never been ranked 4th in the mac...now where is lyco in the mac standings again??

[theoriginalupstate]

where did lyco80 disappear to? not peep from him after dvc laid the lumber to lyco....and hearing how lyco should of never been ranked 4th in the mac...now where is lyco in the mac standings again??

That's what he gets for not realizing the season is 10 games long...

[G-manWU]

Gordon, good to hear from you again! Somehow I forgot to track you down during the Wilkes-DVC game this season...I will try and make up for it if you're doing any basketball games this year!

My point about the postseason awards is simply that, to me, the individual awards should go to the player who had the best season, even if he didn't play on the best team. Yes, such awards are often chocked full of guys from the top team in the league, because their outstanding play contributed to the team finishing in first place. But if a guy had the best season- not just statistically, but in terms of game-changing performances and the like- than he should get the award.

In terms of this being the best DVC defense since 2004, I can find little reason to argue. With the exception of 2009, I have been present at every Wilkes-DVC matchup since 2004, and I also watched a large percentage of their other games from 2004-2007 on film when working for the Colonels. I personally thought the 2006 defense- save for the Susuqehanna game  - was the best in recent years for the Aggies, but this group is as good as any. What really impressed me this year was the offensive line play, which I always felt was the weakest link on some of those very good DVC teams from a few years back.

Gordon, if you want an example of my theory, look at the MAC Freedom basketball awards from 2006-2007. If I am correct, Frank Emslie from FDU was the Player of the Year on the season, which was one of the few really good years in basketball that the Devils have had recently. His team wound up with the fourth seed in the postseason, and lost in the first round at King's. It would have been easier for a number of players from King's, DeSales, or Scranton to get the award, but I thought Emslie had the best year out of anyone I saw play in the league that year. As a result, I thought he was a deserving winner, even though his team wasn't the best in the league.

Again, just my two cents. In the end, the coaches decide these things, and they surely know better than any of us who is tops in the league at each position

[G-manWU]

As for our friend Lyco80, I know he is or was recently serving in the military, so all the best to him. Chances are he may have a few more important things to tend to.

But with Wilkes taking on Widener this week, I am really disappointed in the absence of the Pione...er, Pride faithful.

If you were to ask me what is the toughest environment to play in throughout the MAC, no doubt Quick Stadium is the place. As I said yesterday, Lyco has always been a fourth-quarter team to me, and DVC played well at different points in the games that I saw- just look at this year's Wilkes game as an example. But Widener was the team that really brought the lumber for four quarters when we went to play in their house. Twice, we played there and came away victorious, but only after the Pioneers (as they were called during both of those games) threw everything they had and more at us.

[maAggie]

G-Man, I think your rationalization is a bit skewed...no offense to the players you are championing, but, the starting D for the Aggies, collectively and individually, have out-performed all other MAC defensive teams/players by an amazing margin. They have had far less opportunities to make tackles/post statistics not only because they have seldom played 4 full quarters, but as you mentioned the offense has typically kept them off the field because of their ability to score points and the TOP they hold the ball. So, while there are certainly quality players on other teams, the Aggies defensive unit should most certainly be deserving of a multitude of post season awards.

On another note, with the Montclair loss DVC moves to #1 in the East Region..

[theoriginalupstate]

On another note, with the Montclair loss DVC moves to #1 in the East Region..

I hope you're not happy about that...

[ZeroMischief]

On another note, with the Montclair loss DVC moves to #1 in the East Region..

Unfortunately, all this does is bring Mt. Union over to the East yet again, which means making the semifinals will be a much tougher task now that Montclair St. laid their egg.

[maAggie]

Nope...it's too bad that the current system rewards teams who won't schedule anyone tough on their schedule in order to stay undefeated....and that's really a shame.

[Pat Coleman]

Nope...it's too bad that the current system rewards teams who won't schedule anyone tough on their schedule in order to stay undefeated....and that's really a shame.

If that were the case, SUNY-Maritime would be the top seed, Ma.

[Yanks 99]

Nope...it's too bad that the current system rewards teams who won't schedule anyone tough on their schedule in order to stay undefeated....and that's really a shame.

If that were the case, SUNY-Maritime would be the top seed, Ma.

Yeah...but they don't play anyone tough outside of their conference and play in probably the weakest conference in all of D3.  If the only "penalty" is to not give them a #1 seed, but to let them in the playoffs over another Pool C team that say has one loss in a tough conference (i.e. Fisher this year), what is the difference?

[Pat Coleman]

SUNY-Maritime isn't taking away anyone's Pool C slot, though. Someone has to get those three Pool B slots -- they are the three Pool B automatic bids, handed out in the same ratio as Pool A teams get automatic bids.

[Yanks 99]

SUNY-Maritime isn't taking away anyone's Pool C slot, though. Someone has to get those three Pool B slots -- they are the three Pool B automatic bids, handed out in the same ratio as Pool A teams get automatic bids.

When was the last time a Pool B rep was from the East though?

[Jonny Utah]

SUNY-Maritime isn't taking away anyone's Pool C slot, though. Someone has to get those three Pool B slots -- they are the three Pool B automatic bids, handed out in the same ratio as Pool A teams get automatic bids.

Pat answer me this though.  What if Suny Maritime, Wesley and Salisbury make the playoffs because of the pool B.  Doesn't that mean the other pool B teams go into the pool C group?  This kind of tells me the pool B bids do effect the pool C bids.