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[Pat Coleman]

If the committee decides nine teams qualify, it will take nine teams. In recent history, the East hasn't had enough teams to qualify. Having a Pool B team in the East is actually good for the East, but I get the impression you think it's a bad thing.

If SJF doesn't make it in as a Pool C this year (if Alfred wins the E8), and SUNY-Maritine makes it in as a Pool B, then yes...that is a bad thing...

If SUNY-Maritime makes it as a Pool B, St. John Fisher's Pool C candidacy is not affected. They are not related items.

I think we are saying that in theory, they could be related.  Like if Wesley goes 10-0, Salisbury goes 9-1, SJF goes 9-1, Suny Maritime goes 9-1 and Case Western goes 9-1.

In theory you have 4 of those teams eligible for the pool B slots, and then the one that gets left out can compete against SJF for the pool C slot.

That's the only case in which it's possible -- not that SUNY-Maritime's Pool B candidacy takes away from Fisher or someone else, but that Maritime's Pool C candidacy does so. But if Maritime gets in the field as a Pool B (bolded above) then it doesn't affect anyone else in the East.

[Jonny Utah]

If the committee decides nine teams qualify, it will take nine teams. In recent history, the East hasn't had enough teams to qualify. Having a Pool B team in the East is actually good for the East, but I get the impression you think it's a bad thing.

If SJF doesn't make it in as a Pool C this year (if Alfred wins the E8), and SUNY-Maritine makes it in as a Pool B, then yes...that is a bad thing...

If SUNY-Maritime makes it as a Pool B, St. John Fisher's Pool C candidacy is not affected. They are not related items.

I think we are saying that in theory, they could be related.  Like if Wesley goes 10-0, Salisbury goes 9-1, SJF goes 9-1, Suny Maritime goes 9-1 and Case Western goes 9-1.

In theory you have 4 of those teams eligible for the pool B slots, and then the one that gets left out can compete against SJF for the pool C slot.

That's the only case in which it's possible -- not that SUNY-Maritime's Pool B candidacy takes away from Fisher or someone else, but that Maritime's Pool C candidacy does so. But if Maritime gets in the field as a Pool B (bolded above) then it doesn't affect anyone else in the East.

Well only if the NCAA thinks SUNY Maritime is better than Case Western, and Case Western gets in as a pool C (10-0) over an SJF at 9-1.

[Pat Coleman]

Case Western isn't going to finish 10-0, though.

[Jonny Utah]

Case Western isn't 10-0, though.

Right I was talking about my scenerio.  And if a 9-1 Case Western made it over a 9-1 SJF in the pool C, they would have gotten it anyway.

[Pat Coleman]

Gotcha. I didn't realize you were talking hypothetical. Hey, hypothetically we could have had more unbeaten Pool B teams than Pool B spots any year in the past 11 but it hasn't happened. We're safe from that again this year.

[gordonmann]

Speaking of the playoffs...

Delaware Valley (7-1, 5-0)
vs.
Albright(5-3, 3-2)

The Aggies will try to clinch a share of their third consecutive MAC title and their second consecutive NCAA playoff bid against the team that ended their postseason run last year.  Pregame coverage begins at 12:40 pm with kickoff at 1 pm.  Click here to listen.

[Lyco80]

For those of you who wondered where I went two responses:

First, I have been busy with my job defending the United States of America which often requires travel including overseas.

Second, my home pc crashed and burned and while I might monitor the D-3 page at work as some of our posters do I am really not permitted to chat and post since I am on company time.

Now, as to recent events, naturally I was disappointed with the DVC game - but as one poster wished it was not 74-0 although the final score was little solace. 

The Wilkes game surprised me too as I figured the score would be closer.

Still, with two games remaining Lycoming may still end up at 7-3 which is very respectable for a team picked to finish 4th overall.

Finally, I do not get all the emotion my posts generate - which sort of reminds me of one of the last lines of "Good Morning Vietnam" where the general says, "this is just radio and you are an xxxxxxx" to the sergeant major.

After all, this is just football . . .

Happy Birthday to all Marines - 10 November 1775!

Happy Veteran's Day to all who served, are serving, and are in danger even now.

Great to see a post from my friend Simba - now there was a football monster!!!!

ATB

[kate]

Good morning Lyco!  Personally, i enjoy getting a little emotional over sports - it takes one's mind off every other rotten thing going on in the world;  it's the BEST diversion & it's real!   This Aggie run over the past several years has made a football fan out of  me, and i always thought basketball & Phillies baseball were the be all and end all.  Yes, Happy Veteran's Day.

[DVCFan11]

Congrats to all the players, coaches, and everyone associated with DelVal on a HUGE win over Albright and more important a Three Peat MAC Championship. Great job Aggies

[Lyco80]

All right, let me get this on the record, the Warriors will be lucky if they can finish 4th in the MAC in 2010.  What on earth was I thinking?

You cannot give up turnovers that lead to points and expect to win at most levels and that was certainly true today - 14 gift points.

So I guess I have only one question left - which Lycoming team will show up next week - the squad that beat Albright 50-0 or the gang that can't seem to shoot straight and let down for Wilkes and LVC?

I suppose this is all part of the drama of sport - frankly it was more fun when they were winning.

Good luck to DVC and maybe Wilkes as they move on into the NCAA playoffs - go get 'em from the MAC!

ATB

[maAggie]

Congrats to DelVal on another MAC championship and trip to the NCAA's! Way to go!

[Ron Boerger]

Congrats to DelVal on another MAC championship and trip to the NCAA's! Way to go!

Speaking of DV, they just hit the jackpot with a $30M gift from a local philanthropic group:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101107/ap_on_re_us/us_delaware_valley_college_gift

[Jon Morse]

MAC and NJAC announce MAC-NJAC Challenge for 2012 and 2013

The conferences will pair up opponents for non-conference games the next two seasons.  The already-existing TCNJ/Florham series will be part of the rotation, and the big money matchup looks to be Rowan/DelVal.

[gordonmann]

Yep.  Jon beat me to it.  Good to have a new poster on the board.

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Interesting news out of the NJAC and MAC today...

MAC-NJAC Challenge announced

The MAC currently has a "challenge" with the Presidents' Athletic Conference in West Pennsylvania for 2010 and 2011.  In that format the first place teams as determined by the 2009 standings play each other for two years as do the second place teams, etc.  Thomas More doesn't participate given its distance and traditional rivalries outside the conference.

This challenge has a different format.  There are predetermined match ups, some of which have been happening for a while (TCNJ-FDU-Florham) and some of which are new, at least for the regular season (Lycoming-Brockport, Del Val-Rowan).  Stevenson, which will join the MAC in 2011, will not participate nor will Misericordia which is adding football.  In the NJAC Cortland State will not participate.  Buffalo State is leaving the Conference to join the Empire 8.

It's a nice idea to help both conferences fill out their schedules.  From Del Val's perspective, it adds the big non-conference challenge that the Aggies have recently had in Wesley.  Wesley drops off Del Val's schedule next year with the addition of Stevenson and two year contracts in place with W&J and Muhlenberg.

[Jon Morse]

Yep.  Jon beat me to it.

I only beat you to it because you had more to say about it.