FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[jmcozenlaw]

WOW!!!!! DVC put up 42 unanswered points against Widener and shut them out in the second half. QB Aaron Wilmer is a beast, playing on a high ankle sprain and is only a freshman. Sophomore Lewis Vincent could break all kinds of school receiving records.

As shocked as I was about the final score, I'm equally stunned at the ase at which DVC moved the ball up and down the field. If not for some kneeldown's in the last two mintues, DVC was looking at close to 600 yards of offense. Widener has a very nice team and is quite young as well, but when you take away the punt return touchdown and the short touchdown due to DVC botching a kickoff return.........they only put up 14 points. I guess I was expecting a lot more offense given their numbers this year.

On a positive note, unlike many of the past DVC - Widener games, this game was played with good sportsmanship (outside of Widener's #20 and #7 chirping at the DVC bench before the game and when they went up 28 - 14........karma???) and very clean play. Hats off to both teams.

I'm not a big believer in the playoffs. To me it is much more important to win a conference (and go undefeated while doing it) against similar schools (no 10,000 student UWW's in the MAC). Anything from this point forward is gravy. A season to remember from this group of Aggies!!

[Lyco80]

First, and foremost, congrats to DVC - winning the MAC is never easy and doing it in undefeated fashion is historically remarkable.  Best wishes in the NCAAs.

Second, it is a pity only a combined ten points separate the Warriors from a chance for an invite to the dance.  Lycoming played solid football all season and gave both Widener and DVC all they could handle.

Third, it is some consolation that the lads from Williamsport will once more be among the stingiest defenses in all of D-3, particularly against the rush.

Fourth, Lycoming returns a fairly junior squad with most of the skill players returning which should make for another interesting Fall for football in 2012.

Last, best wishes to all as we enter into a season of reflection and celebration of things more important than football like family and faith.

ATB

[dunleigh]

DelVal is in the playoffs...I'm new to this and I understand there is also an ECAC bowl. Is that for those in the East who didn't make the playoffs? Is it a tournament style thing also, or just a one game consolation type of thing? Who is most likely to get into that? My interests are the MAC and NJAC.

[Pat Coleman]

The bracket, for those who still haven't seen:
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2011/11/bracket-released

Bowl game is what it sounds like, one game per team

[Lyco80]

Football is a surprising sport - Widener - after a solid season - and with the MAC championship on the line,  sprints ahead of DVC only to ultimately get blown out of the game and apparently the NCAA playoffs.

The Eagles cannot beat the Cardinals who are led by their second-string quarterback and a Defensive Coordinator they passed on for that joke of a coach they could not live without.

The Giants allow the 49'ers to dictate tempo to them and prove vulnerable only a week after handling the Patriots.

The Redskins appear they cannot score a touchdown unless it is against a pre-vent defense which really means go ahead and score cause you will run of time and we win.

The Falcons go for it on 4th down in their on half and miss in OT giving the Saints possession and a straight road to a win.

And on it goes.

As for the Eagles - my other football team - it is time for Andy Reid to go.  If the Eagles had Tom Brady instead of Do-nothing McNabb - the king of short-hop passing - they would have several rings.  Time for Jeff Lurie to lure either Cowher, Gruden, Edwards or even Dungy back to the sidelines.  All that talent and no one with their head screwed on right - pity.  And it has been 51 years since an Eagle championship football team.  They lose again when leading in the 4th quarter and all he has to offer at the post-game press conference is the same old shop-worn platitudes about making plays and working harder.  How about taking responsibility and just admitting you are over your head as an NFL coach and resigning?  All that talent over all these years and nothing but bridesmaids with NFC championship rings to show.   Uhhhhhhhhh.

Go DVC - win as many as you can - heck - win them all!

After this weekend I need some prozac and a MAC National Champion.

ATB

[jmcozenlaw]

Lyco80 - I couldn't agree with you more about the Eagles although Gruden is not what many think he is. Talk to those who know the man and he is about one, and only one thing.......the John Gruden "Grudog" brand. Many talk about him as a lucky coach with a "chucky scowl" and not much substance. I'll take a pass on Edwards as well. Get me a Cowher or a Dungy any day of the week.

I'm torn on the McNabb front in some respects and follow me on this one. I have an 11 year old son. He's an excellent QB and basketball player for his age.......let me dream here for a moment. He becomes an All-American High High School QB, an All-American College QB and is drafted with the #2 pick in the first round. He is the only QB of the six taken in the first round in the 2021 draft to have any type of real NFL career. He finishes college in four years with a 3.41 GPA, never as much as jaywalks let alone gets in any type of college trouble. He has a 12 year career in the NFL, leads his team to four consecutive NFL Championships (his coach only believed in having a stud receiver in one of those years) but does not win the big one. He gives millions to a few hospitals in the area and never shuns his back on his civic responsibility. He and his lovely wife give me four beautiful grandchildren.

We call this man a bum..........imagine if this bum were our child. The odds at birth of being a Donovan McNabb are many tens of millions to one. It's all about perspective as we would be proud as heck with chest swelled proudly if one of our son's accomplished what McNabb has, but since he's not our relative nor friend.....he's a bum. Something is not right here.

Thanks for the Aggies support as well. Although winning a tough, balanced MAC is the grand prize, I'm looking forward to a playoff win or two. Next year should be interesting as well as Lycoming and Widener have quite a bit of youth and Del Val returns 10 starters on offense and 3 or 4 transfers (a few names, potentially, if they enroll in January which would be VERY significant) to help the six returning starters on defense. Del Val is also going to have many recruits at the home playoff games so a two or three game run could also help big time with some nice recruits/transfers.

As always Lyco......thanks for your service.

[Lyco80]

jmcozenlaw,

Concur with your observations about the man - but I am not making my assessments on his character but his production.  He is a terrific human being but in all those years, with all those great defenses, you would think he could have led his team to a win in the Super Bowl.

What did everyone say about John Elway, Peyton Manning, Steve Young, Jim Kelly about not winning the big one? The first three finally did it and Kelly never did - nor did Dan Marino - the one hit against his superstar career.

Four times in the NFC Championship - including the last year in the 'Vet when Brian Mitchell took the opening kick-off for a TD to put he Eagles up against the Bucs only to let it slip away because of a sub-par performance at QB.  Note - the Bucs trashed the Raiders in the Superbowl.

Donovan McNabb the man is a class act.  Donovan McNabb the QB is an under achiever.

The former would make a great neighbor, fraternity brother, or brother-in-law.  I want a QB who can deliver a ring to Philadelphia - which is the only reason you hire a person for that position - to win games and ultimately the biggest.

Appreciate your last note about the service.  I am an Iggles fan who is tired of excuses and would like to see a Superbowl win before my time on planet earth expires.

The one true consolation for me is that I am lifetime Yankees fan and they know how to win - and win in the World Series.

ATB

[kate]

Absolute best luck to our three MAC teams playing this weekend.  Del Val as they take on Norwich in Doylestown, and in the ECAC's, Lebanon Valley, playing at home, and Albright on the road!  We'll be score watching at the Aggie basketball game!

[jmcozenlaw]

Lyco80 - The true greatness about the NFL and it's sheer dominance in the sports panthion is the absolutely level playing field in which all teams compete financially.

I'd like to see the Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies (yes, as a native Philadelphian, I stay loyal), Mets, compete with a salary cap around $120 million dollars. The Phillies would have to shave about $50 million from their payroll.......the Yankees......almost half of it. That's the beauty of the NFL.

I agree with most of your McNabb points and contend that if Owens did not get hurt by that Roy Williams horse collar, the Birds win the Superbowl that year. As far as that NFC championship game against Tampa Bay (the saddest I've ever been walking out of a stadium:(.........Blaine Bishop, Levon Kirkland and Joe Jurevisous are the names that still haunt me.

Until 2004, Andy gave McNabb the likes of Todd Stinkson, James Trash and a host of other very mediocre receivers. Marino had Duper and Clayton and couldn't get over the hump. At the end of the day, still a good (not great) career when all is said and done.

We welcomed Randall back to the Linc on Sunday.......that was the highlight of the day:)

Have a good one ATB!

[Knightstalker]

Lyco80 - The true greatness about the NFL and it's sheer dominance in the sports panthion is the absolutely level playing field in which all teams compete financially.

I'd like to see the Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies (yes, as a native Philadelphian, I stay loyal), Mets, compete with a salary cap around $120 million dollars. The Phillies would have to shave about $50 million from their payroll.......the Yankees......almost half of it. That's the beauty of the NFL.

I agree with most of your McNabb points and contend that if Owens did not get hurt by that Roy Williams horse collar, the Birds win the Superbowl that year. As far as that NFC championship game against Tampa Bay (the saddest I've ever been walking out of a stadium:(.........Blaine Bishop, Levon Kirkland and Joe Jurevisous are the names that still haunt me.

Until 2004, Andy gave McNabb the likes of Todd Stinkson, James Trash and a host of other very mediocre receivers. Marino had Duper and Clayton and couldn't get over the hump. At the end of the day, still a good (not great) career when all is said and done.

We welcomed Randall back to the Linc on Sunday.......that was the highlight of the day:)

Have a good one ATB!

The one thing I can say in defense of Dan Marino (as a lifelong dolphins fan) never winning a super bowl, and the same can be said for Dan Fouts, they didn't play defense.  Once Tony Nathan retired Marion never really had a threat out of the backfield, that is Don Shula' fault not Marino'.

[clandfan]

Lyco80 - I couldn't agree with you more about the Eagles although Gruden is not what many think he is. Talk to those who know the man and he is about one, and only one thing.......the John Gruden "Grudog" brand. Many talk about him as a lucky coach with a "chucky scowl" and not much substance. I'll take a pass on Edwards as well. Get me a Cowher or a Dungy any day of the week.

I'm torn on the McNabb front in some respects and follow me on this one. I have an 11 year old son. He's an excellent QB and basketball player for his age.......let me dream here for a moment. He becomes an All-American High High School QB, an All-American College QB and is drafted with the #2 pick in the first round. He is the only QB of the six taken in the first round in the 2021 draft to have any type of real NFL career. He finishes college in four years with a 3.41 GPA, never as much as jaywalks let alone gets in any type of college trouble. He has a 12 year career in the NFL, leads his team to four consecutive NFL Championships (his coach only believed in having a stud receiver in one of those years) but does not win the big one. He gives millions to a few hospitals in the area and never shuns his back on his civic responsibility. He and his lovely wife give me four beautiful grandchildren.

We call this man a bum..........imagine if this bum were our child. The odds at birth of being a Donovan McNabb are many tens of millions to one. It's all about perspective as we would be proud as heck with chest swelled proudly if one of our son's accomplished what McNabb has, but since he's not our relative nor friend.....he's a bum. Something is not right here.

Thanks for the Aggies support as well. Although winning a tough, balanced MAC is the grand prize, I'm looking forward to a playoff win or two. Next year should be interesting as well as Lycoming and Widener have quite a bit of youth and Del Val returns 10 starters on offense and 3 or 4 transfers (a few names, potentially, if they enroll in January which would be VERY significant) to help the six returning starters on defense. Del Val is also going to have many recruits at the home playoff games so a two or three game run could also help big time with some nice recruits/transfers.

As always Lyco......thanks for your service.

Don't forget that your son gave back generously to his alma mater as well.

[jmcozenlaw]

Clandfan - Thanks for the reminder. I believe that he may be on the Board of Trustees as well. He and his wife gave $3,000,000 to a South Jersey Hospital to expand a neo-natal unit. All of their children were born at the hospital. He used to give out candy on Halloween........you could count on one hand the number of pro athletes who would even let the kids venture onto their compounds, let alone stand at the door giving out candy.

[RedDragonFan]

Hello MAC board.  Wondering if there are any Albright posters out there interested in talking about the upcoming game against Cortland State.  Looking forward to the game and it's always interesting to play a new team as the two teams have not met before.  Long term weather appears to be good football weather but then again, up in Cortland, you never know what the weather will bring.

[kate]

Mentioned before good luck to Albright, Del Val, Lebanon Valley, and didn't mean to miss Widener who will also be playing a post season game on Sat.  WOW, four from the MAC - amazing!

[USTBench]

What can people tell me about the Aggies?