FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[pg04]

As for the actual topic at hand. I have never really known how I feel about the absurd scores. Sometimes I say that it was classless but then I think "Am I only saying this because it is convention to think it is running up the score?" In the end, most times there is very little the winning team could have done to not run it up the score outside of kneeling.

[lewdogg11]

As for the actual topic at hand. I have never really known how I feel about the absurd scores. Sometimes I say that it was classless but then I think "Am I only saying this because it is convention to think it is running up the score?" In the end, most times there is very little the winning team could have done to not run it up the score outside of kneeling.

I think your point hits it right on the head.  It's 'conventional' thinking that a blowout score could be construed as an intentional running up of a score.  Mount Union has been doing it forever and no one cares.  People just say that they are so good it's expected.

[dlippiel]

Dlip and PBR...why are you such pu$$ies?  Wahhhhhhhh Widener scored 90 points. Ra ra let's route for Lebanon Valley. I hope Widener kicks the sh!t out of them too. I have no doubt Widener could have done things a little differently, but if a team can't stop another team or its backups' backups, too f'ing bad. Stop being Sally's.

Ya dog dlip hears ya, but he still just doesn't like it. Even us pu$%&#@ can have opinions, especially when we wear our high****ingheals  .

Ra ra let's go Lebanon Valley

Do you even know where Lebanon Valley is?  Why would you jump on a bandwagon?  Just because a team might be good and scored 90 points?  I'm hoping Widener is dope.  They represented the East VERY well 10-12 years ago.  And they have sick uniforms.

There is no ****ing bandwagon and your question is not a good one. Just not happy with the running up that's all dude. You do make some good points in reference to MUC's past and that it would be good for the east if we had an ass-kicker. Yet dlip feels Widener is not it and showed little class in the win and their coach is full of ****. He loved the pounding but was too much of a pussy to admit it. Just say we want to be the best and we are going to show that week in and week out who ever the **** we play. Dont pawn it off like you tried not to do it and hide behind your players saying he wouldn't tell them to layoff. Dlio understands giving back UPS a chance to play hard and get game experience but at what cost? By totally humiliating a lteam and its players?

There are two sides, dlip sees yours and respects it, he just doesn't agree with it.

[lewdogg11]

Dlip and PBR...why are you such pu$$ies?  Wahhhhhhhh Widener scored 90 points. Ra ra let's route for Lebanon Valley. I hope Widener kicks the sh!t out of them too. I have no doubt Widener could have done things a little differently, but if a team can't stop another team or its backups' backups, too f'ing bad. Stop being Sally's.

Ya dog dlip hears ya, but he still just doesn't like it. Even us pu$%&#@ can have opinions, especially when we wear our high****ingheals  .

Ra ra let's go Lebanon Valley

Do you even know where Lebanon Valley is?  Why would you jump on a bandwagon?  Just because a team might be good and scored 90 points?  I'm hoping Widener is dope.  They represented the East VERY well 10-12 years ago.  And they have sick uniforms.

There is no ****ing bandwagon and your question is not a good one. Just not happy with the running up that's all dude. You do make some good points in reference to MUC's past and that it would be good for the east if we had an ass-kicker. Yet dlip feels Widener is not it and showed little class in the win and their coach is full of ****. He loved the pounding but was too much of a pussy to admit it. Just say we want to be the best and we are going to show that week in and week out who ever the **** we play. Dont pawn it off like you tried not to do it and hide behind your players saying he wouldn't tell them to layoff. Dlio understands giving back UPS a chance to play hard and get game experience but at what cost? By totally humiliating a lteam and its players?

There are two sides, dlip sees yours and respects it, he just doesn't agree with it.

Last point on this and it's kind of been mentioned already...

Wilkes is not Husson or Anna Maria either.  Wilkes is a traditionally decent program.  Piling on to a team that really sucks is one thing, but this is not the case.  As many people mentioned, Wilkes beat Widener last year, So Widener came in ready to play and play hard and obviously Wilkes did not.  This isn't a program that they just decided to pile on against because they could.  Wilkes won't fold their program over it.  The players aren't going to all quit and go to cooking school instead.  Widener just beat the crap out of them and that's all it comes down to.  If RPI beat Rochester 90-0, I would be psyched.  Rochester always gives them fits.  Similar situation here.

[ExTartanPlayer]

Wilkes is not Husson or Anna Maria either.  Wilkes is a traditionally decent program.  Piling on to a team that really sucks is one thing, but this is not the case.  As many people mentioned, Wilkes beat Widener last year, So Widener came in ready to play and play hard and obviously Wilkes did not.  This isn't a program that they just decided to pile on against because they could.

Agreed.

And dlip, as much as I want to say I "respect" your viewpoint just as much, please re-read some of my past posts about what happened in the fourth quarter to take us from "62" to "90" and tell me what Widener was supposed to do other than just outright stop playing the game in the fourth quarter.  Honest question, which I asked once before: if everything had unfolded exactly the same through the first three quarters, then the Wilkes players all grew a pair and stopped the Widener backups throughout the fourth quarter to keep the final margin at 62-0, would you still be beating this drum?

[AUPepBand]

Pep has, as a Saxon fan, unfortunately seen this from both sides. Pep remembers the 68-0 loss to Susquehanna back in the 60s when the Crusaders' fans were chanting "Penn State in '68!" Riding a long winning streak and clobbering everyone they played, they were a powerhouse under Coach Jim Garrett (whose son Jason is head coach of the Dallas Cowboys). At the time, Coach Yunevich said something along the lines of "Their day will come."

A year after the Crusaders pounded Alfred 68-0, they traveled to the Southern Tier of Western New York and faced the Saxons on Merrill Field. Coach Yunevich didn't need to say much to fire up his Saxons, who stunned the Crusaders and won, 18-16, snapping that long win streak. Later that season, Garrett was fired after allegedly striking one of his players.

Last year, Pep witnessed a similar situation in which EVERYTHING that could go wrong for the Saxons did, and Salisbury annihilated AU, 69-0. While played in a torrential downpour with wind gusts of 30 to 40 mph, while there wasn't any snow in the air, the plays on the field had a snowball effect and went from bad to worse in a hurry. It was 7-0 after one quarter, but 35-0 at halftime. It was midway through the third quarter when Salisbury pulled their starting QB, with a 49-0 lead. His back-up threw a TD pass to make it 55-0 and the Gulls added two scores in the final 4:17, the first on a short run culminating an 8-play 51 yard drive and the last coming on a blocked punt recovered in the end zone for a TD.

In AU's 60-0 playoff win over SUNY-Maritime in 2010, the Saxons were up 50-0 at halftime and, despite limited by the number of players allowed in a playoff game, rested the starters the entire second half, and went to a run-only offense, out of respect for the Privateers and their coach, who was headed to Afghanistan soon thereafter.

It ain't fun to be in an ugly one-sided football game...from either side. But it happens....sometimes in spite of sincere efforts to keep the score down.

On Saxon Warriors!

[lewdogg11]

Case closed.  From here on out, all teams up by 50 or more must kneel every down, until the game is under 50 points.  Lollipops will be given to both teams after the game, and no feelings will be hurt in the process.

[dlippiel]

Some good points here and honestly, dlip sees what you guys are saying. The points on here have made dlip think a bit (lolli-pops and all). dlip thinks if he got up by 50 or more he would simply call all running plays up the middle until the opposition scored and then he would allow the back UPS to answer. Who the **** knows? Maybe he wouldn't want to do anything to possible jeopardize the lead and/or the momentum built. He still feels ****ing 90 points is excessive and too much. Good discussion fellas....let's go LVC.

[gordonmann]

Me and ... Mrs. Jones ...


    One of the Widener receivers produced my favorite post of all time.  There was a topic in the Multi-Region section titled, "Who is the best receiver in D3?"  After a bunch of people posted stats and testimonials to their favorites, either Jim Jones or Michael Coleman (I think it was the latter) logged in and posted simply.

    "Me"

    And he wasn't too far off.  Coleman was 1st team All-American and Jim Jones was 2nd.

Neither... go with billy "white shoes" johnson..

I should've been clearer: The question was "Who is the best receiver in D3 in that season?"

So Johnson wasn't an option.

[WUDLINE]

First let me Say that I am both a Widener Grad and was at the game on Saturday. Regardless of how you try to spin it the score was rediculous. To have your starting qb in the game and still throwing passes with the score that lopsided at the 7 minute mark in the 3rd quarter is just wrong. It is not the players fault but speaks volumes for the character of the individuals calling the plays. I was extremely disappointed in coach Collins and had previously thought that he was a man of higher character. More importantly for the first time I was a little ashamed to be a former WU player. Furthermore, as a alumni who has remained in the area, I can tell you that the score was not well received in the local community, local press, or with various alumni. Furthermore, after answering questions all week Coach Collins has even stated that it has become a distration to the team.

[pg04]

Widener's goal for the rest of the season should be to go for 100! 100 or bust!  .

I wonder if such a running up of the score would have been such a big deal 20-30 years ago, before everyone's feelings started to make a difference in athletics.

[lewdogg11]

The pussification of America continues.

[WUDLINE]

PG -
I can speak for the MAC in the 90's as a player, and since as a close follower. This would have never happened. It had nothing to do with feelings, it had to do with respect. We went to battle every Saturday with some serious rivals during that time. Many of these games were extremely contested and centered around a serious dislike for our opponents, but there was also always a respect level within the conference.

Dog -
You are certainly entitled to your feelings and opinions. My belief is that this is more of an example of the continuation of an overall lack of honor, class and respect that many Americans choose to show to each other.

[rams1102]

As someone older then most yof you guys, I personaly would not have run up 90 points, bu that being said, IMHO this was all about Nationa Recognition. Widner now has it. Remember the old saying "watch what you wish for, you may get it". They are a team with a big Bulls Eye on ther back.

[Knightstalker]

90-0 is nothing, it could have been much worse.  Ask Cumberland.
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