FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[wesleydad]

How does the NCAA suck? Mount Union, Wesley, and Widener are clearly the higher "seeds." What did Salisbury and Rowan do to not deserve playing one another?

no complaints about mount, wesley, or widener seeds.  i just think the rowan/salisbury game seems like a second round game.  also would have liked to see a more competitive game for wesley and widener.  the teams from the ecfc and nefc are just not competitive on a national scale.

[jknezek]

WesleyDad there are only a few truly competitive teams to go around, and you don't want them playing in the first round. I agree two bids to the NEFC is lame, but it's really only 1 team out of 32 that we are legitimately griping about (or 1 out of 7 that were discretionary). That's not bad at all.

The first round is going to have blowouts. The AQ system pretty much ensures it. Just enjoy this week, root for upsets to make it interesting (go Generals!) and then wait for the final 8 when it gets to be the best football. 

[wesleydad]

WesleyDad there are only a few truly competitive teams to go around, and you don't want them playing in the first round. I agree two bids to the NEFC is lame, but it's really only 1 team out of 32 that we are legitimately griping about (or 1 out of 7 that were discretionary). That's not bad at all.

The first round is going to have blowouts. The AQ system pretty much ensures it. Just enjoy this week, root for upsets to make it interesting (go Generals!) and then wait for the final 8 when it gets to be the best football.

guys, the ncaa sucks comment is not a complaint about the playoffs.  i like the way things go in d3.  just wish that what i think are 2 of the top 16 teams did not have to play in round 1.  i figured they may have to play each other when the east and south imploded.

[dlippiel]

How does the NCAA suck? Mount Union, Wesley, and Widener are clearly the higher "seeds." What did Salisbury and Rowan do to not deserve playing one another?

The NCAA sucks because the NCAA sucks, period. For a body that oversees three divisions of sports they are as out of touch with reality as a governing body could be. dlip does feel that their selection process for D3 is pretty good overall, but to allow two NEFC teams into the field (may not be the end of the world) but clearly represents how are out of touch they are with the reality of D3 football (to some extent).

dlip also concurrs with the Rowan/Salisbury match-up. As a fan of the east he would have liked to see them spread out just because he feels they represent the east quite well. For an east fan it is a shame one of them has to be eliminated in round 1. However, looking at the process the match-up makes sense (in terms of the commitee picking it) and dlip has no problem with it in regards to that.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

dlip and wesleydad - you should listen to the Pat Coleman podcast with committee chair Brad Bankston... it may answer many of the questions you have. You can find it on the front page of D3football.com.

And there is only so much you can do with that Salisbury/Rowan game... I don't think there is any where else you can put those two teams when you consider travel, expenses, etc. The eastern half of the division has a lot of schools that got in and that usually means challenges for brackets.

[pg04]

Personally, I think the matchup between Rowan and Salisbury in the first round is right, even outside of "travel reasons" -- I don't think either deserved an easier game or that they are both in the top 16 of the country (just my opinion though, and I don't side with the NCAA too often  ).

[Pat Coleman]

Agreed. Salisbury and Rowan each lost regional games and this 4-5 type game is the right place for them.

[wesleydad]

Personally, I think the matchup between Rowan and Salisbury in the first round is right, even outside of "travel reasons" -- I don't think either deserved an easier game or that they are both in the top 16 of the country (just my opinion though, and I don't side with the NCAA too often  ).

guess we will not be able to find out if they are in the top 16 in the country since 1 will lose on saturday.  i also get the 4 - 5 match up and it makes sense that they are in it in the bracket they are in.  i just agree with dlip in that i think both teams would beat half the field that is in today.  i didnt say they should have gotten an easier game just feel it is a shame that they have to play each other in round 1.  this is my opinion about these 2 teams, i dont think the ncaa sucks, just that it sucks that these teams have to play in the first round.

[bman]

well bman, widener could not have gotten an easier 1st round game.  i will see if i have a clue since i thing that both salisbury and rowan are better than the pride in week 2.  my choices for games, widener blowing out bridgewater, wesley blowing out mt ida, or the longest drive to the best game, salisbury/rowan.  ugghhh, the ncaa sucks.  good luck this week, dont think you need much.

Wesleydad
I'll stay away from making any commentary around Bridgewater, since I don't know the program...  My initial impression on the matchup was that I didn't hate it...(and I have hated some of WU's seedings before...  )

The nice thing about the bracket, is that (if WU wins round1) I get to see a great game in round 2, whether that be Rowan or SU...the fans locally will win either way, since it's a great matchup.

What I do know is that WU needs to eliminate the sloppy play and turnovers quickly...

[jmcozenlaw]

Does anybody know why Lycoming did not get an ECAC game with an 8-2 record?

[Lyco80]

Yes - they are not a member school of the ECAC and therefore not eligible for an invitation.

17 seconds was the difference - and Coach Clark elected to throw on third down giving Widener 1:23 to win - AND THEY DID.  UGH!

Great season for the Warriors but a very dissatisfying end all the same.

Playoffs are the best. 

ATB

[wesleydad]

well bman, widener could not have gotten an easier 1st round game.  i will see if i have a clue since i thing that both salisbury and rowan are better than the pride in week 2.  my choices for games, widener blowing out bridgewater, wesley blowing out mt ida, or the longest drive to the best game, salisbury/rowan.  ugghhh, the ncaa sucks.  good luck this week, dont think you need much.

Wesleydad
I'll stay away from making any commentary around Bridgewater, since I don't know the program...  My initial impression on the matchup was that I didn't hate it...(and I have hated some of WU's seedings before...  )

The nice thing about the bracket, is that (if WU wins round1) I get to see a great game in round 2, whether that be Rowan or SU...the fans locally will win either way, since it's a great matchup.

What I do know is that WU needs to eliminate the sloppy play and turnovers quickly...

bman, yes, you will have a real good one in week 2 if widener wins week 1.  agree that the sloppy play has to be eliminated or this week will be a tough one.

[bman]

Yes - they are not a member school of the ECAC and therefore not eligible for an invitation.

17 seconds was the difference - and Coach Clark elected to throw on third down giving Widener 1:23 to win - AND THEY DID.  UGH!

Great season for the Warriors but a very dissatisfying end all the same.

Playoffs are the best. 

ATB

So then the million dollar question...WHY are they not an ECAC member?

[PBR...]

Congrats to the W on the MAC Championship, go represent the MAC well.

[DelcoD3]

I believe Lycoming chooses not to play in an ECAC game. Schools can apply for these right? I've heard they just prefer not to apply for the ECACs.