FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[jmcozenlaw]

I have no intention of shutting it down -- but what I would suggest is that your regular commentary on the subject of there not being a lot of posters is not going to help welcome people in. Talk about football, rather than talking about talking, in my opinion.

I understand Pat. I'm trying to shame some of them back in. You know firsthand that bman, simba, PBR and bill have been with you from day one and were all posting at the start of the year. Strange how they all disappeared at the same time.

Look at it another way though.............the post elicited a response from wesleydad, Saxon and, a brand new King's poster, the first that I can recall.

So something worked. Now maybe bman, simba, PBR and bill will return home, guided by the warm light of my beacon!!

[jmcozenlaw]

You are not alone as Michael Jackson would say. I'm one of those readers who reads more then he posts also. I'm a King'a Alumni and from what it looks like the first on this board.

Go Monarchs!

Welcome Betzler!!!! We have been dying for a few King's posters for years. Welcome aboard my friend!

[jmcozenlaw]

jmcoz,

Have no fear.  I am one of the silent minority.  I regularly read the MAC board along with Wesdad.

I lived in PA for several years and my daughters still do.  One works in State College and the other in Altoona.

Because of past experience I like to follow Albright and Lycoming, along with Juniata and Wash&Jeff.

Having lived in many parts of the country including CA, IN, SC, CT and NM before returning to NY, it brought me near Penn ST, UCLA and Southern Cal. These were wonderful experiences but of course, none of these can compete with Alfred and the Saxons. IMHO

For anyone reading this, they probably have their own small college experience, so I don't think I have to elaborate. It is just understood.

So jmcoz, hang in there. I'm sure there is more support still, than you can imagine.

Thanks Saxon!! My school (Swarthmore) dropped football and I adopted DelVal when I moved out to bucolic Doylestown 20 years ago. I get frustrated when all my buddies from bigger schools talk college football 365/24/7............and the majority of my small school buddies don't even know how their schools are doing and haven't been back on campus in 25-30 years. It's a disconnect that I will never understand...........so I should not worry about it and just accept it. When the majority of alums don't care........and the interest level of small school football players wanes pretty quickly a year or two after graduation, it boggles my mind. I guess it's just the OCD in me!!

[tweisman5]

Week 10 Predictions:
Wilkes@Stevenson: Stevenson wins by 34 points

Widener@Kings: Widener wins by 10 points

Misericordia@Albright: Albright wins by 37 points

Leb Val@FDU: Led Val wins by 7 points

Lycoming@Del Val: Del Val wins by 21 points

Week 10 Rankings:

1. Stevenson
2. Albright
3. Del Val
4. Widener
5. Kings
6. Lycoming
7. FDU
8. Leb Val
9. Wilkes
10. Misericordia

[Warren Thompson]

Wilkes -- yes, Wilkes -- over #14 Stevenson at Stevenson, 38-35. Just checking in to keep a certain party happy.   

[jmcozenlaw]

I just got back from my AAU Basketball Coaching duties and had to look about five times to make sure that I wasn't seeing things!! How in God's name did Stevenson lose, at home, to Wilkes of all teams. Let's take a look:

October 15:
DelVal - 52          Wilkes - 10

October 22:
Albright - 69        Wilkes - 13

Stevenson - 19    DelVal - 0 (don't want to hear about the weather shutting DelVal down, it was Stevenson's defense as well)

November 5: Looking at the scores above, you'd think Stevenson by 50 or so. I picked them by 42. Tweisman picked them by 34.
Wilkes - 38         Stevenson - 35 (Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???)

How does a team that lost by 98 points in consecutive weeks (just a couple of weeks ago) to DelVal and Albright..............beat the only team, on the road, that beat BOTH DelVal AND Albright. I'm flabbergasted! Wilkes scored 23 points in 8 quarters against DelVal and Albright.......and scored 38 in 4 quarters at Stevenson, with almost 600 yards of offense.

Someone who was at the game please explain what happened. This might be the most stunning MAC score not only this season, but in the last decade.

This loss probably knocks Stevenson out of the Top 25 and may very well cost them a home playoff game.

I am never at a loss for words................I am now!!

[jmcozenlaw]

Wilkes -- yes, Wilkes -- over #14 Stevenson at Stevenson, 38-35. Just checking in to keep a certain party happy.   

As we haven't had a Wilkes poster this century................whoever could that be Warren?

[kate]

The Wilkes poster has to be Colonel John !!!   Parity in the MAC!!!  Great game Wilkes and good, solid game Del Val!!!   Please beat Widener next Saturday!!!

[jmcozenlaw]

The Wilkes poster has to be Colonel John !!!   Parity in the MAC!!!  Great game Wilkes and good, solid game Del Val!!!   Please beat Widener next Saturday!!!

I have to add Colonel John to the MIA list with bman, simba, PBR and bill

[jmcozenlaw]

I have no intention of shutting it down -- but what I would suggest is that your regular commentary on the subject of there not being a lot of posters is not going to help welcome people in. Talk about football, rather than talking about talking, in my opinion.

I understand Pat. I'm trying to shame some of them back in. You know firsthand that bman, simba, PBR and bill have been with you from day one and were all posting at the start of the year. Strange how they all disappeared at the same time.

Look at it another way though.............the post elicited a response from wesleydad, Saxon and, a brand new King's poster, the first that I can recall.

So something worked. Now maybe bman, simba, PBR and bill will return home, guided by the warm light of my beacon!!

Pat. it also reeled in Warren. Like shooting fish in a barrel!!

[wone3]

Let's see....believe a 2 win record will be an easy game. Me opening my mouth to say welcome to the playoffs. Refs probably swallowing whistles on numerous occasions including a couple pass interference calls, but good teams don't use that. Mainly their QB scrambled well and threw a lot of rainbows that their receivers were able to work open and get under or out jump the defenses. Add in a lot of sloppy tackling. It didn't hurt thinking that a 2 win team and getting up 14 points quickly added to it. Course the mustangs lost this time last year too. While yep, those were 2 ugly losses. They also only lost to Widener by 2 points. This was the trap game I was worried would happen with Kings but happened a week later. Congrats to Wilkes for not giving up on the season and the win today

[wone3]

I wasn't sold on playoff game being home even with 10-0 just cause they don't thinking conference is tops. Stevenson wasn't the only top 25 to get clobbered but I tend to think that if they don't get dropped from top 25 that they hang by skin of teeth. Whitewater is in a fight last I saw too, think this was just a fluky week. Refresh my memory on the tiebreaks...not that it should get there but I am taking nothing for granted going the rest of the way.

[jmcozenlaw]

Let's see....believe a 2 win record will be an easy game. Me opening my mouth to say welcome to the playoffs. Refs probably swallowing whistles on numerous occasions including a couple pass interference calls, but good teams don't use that. Mainly their QB scrambled well and threw a lot of rainbows that their receivers were able to work open and get under or out jump the defenses. Add in a lot of sloppy tackling. It didn't hurt thinking that a 2 win team and getting up 14 points quickly added to it. Course the mustangs lost this time last year too. While yep, those were 2 ugly losses. They also only lost to Widener by 2 points. This was the trap game I was worried would happen with Kings but happened a week later. Congrats to Wilkes for not giving up on the season and the win today

This should have never even been close enough for the refs to make a difference (as Wilkes also had 3 turnovers to Stevenson's 1)  as you said, good teams don't go down the ref path, as calls are good and bad for each team in every game. The two point game against Widener was actually not a close game other than the scoreboard. Plus, Stevenson blew Widener's doors off at Widener. I guess I got thrown off by how badly Wilkes got crushed by DelVal and Albright, physically and on the scoreboard, in back to back weeks...........teams that Stevenson beat.

Oh well. It looks like the MAC might be one and done in the NCAA Playoffs unless Stevenson gets a good draw and wins a road game. My sense tell me they may be headed to Wesley. Stay tuned.

Wone, you have quite the decision to make next week. Root for the school that is one of your two favorites and temporarily so given that's where your kid attends............or root for the school that you attended for four years. Hmmmmmm. I don't see Stevenson losing to Lycoming, nor do I see Albright losing to LebVal. They will be MAC Co-Champs, but Stevenson will get the NCAA invite given the head to head win.

This game cost Stevenson what could have been as high as a #3 seed. As a MAC fan.......that sucks for all of us! 

[jmcozenlaw]

I wasn't sold on playoff game being home even with 10-0 just cause they don't thinking conference is tops. Stevenson wasn't the only top 25 to get clobbered but I tend to think that if they don't get dropped from top 25 that they hang by skin of teeth. Whitewater is in a fight last I saw too, think this was just a fluky week. Refresh my memory on the tiebreaks...not that it should get there but I am taking nothing for granted going the rest of the way.

Had they gone 10-0 and finished the season ranked in the #11 - #14 spot in the country................they would have absolutely gotten a home game as, my guess, a #3 seed or at worst, a #4 seed.

If they both win next week, Stevenson and Albright will be co-champs but Stevenson goes to the playoffs as the first tiebreaker is their head to head victory.

About Whitewater, remember, there is a rivalry and intensity amongst the 8 teams in that conference, that is light years ahead of the MAC rivalries. They have some fluky outcomes as a result. Whitewater might very well benefit from a close win on the road to a rival. As a MAC fan, I'm hoping Stevenson can benefit from a close loss at home to a non-rival.

[wone3]

I'm on the Stevenson bandwagon this year and others until I see a solid team in Lyco again. They lost their dominance about 15 years ago. I think Stevenson could potentially go on a Lyco style run on the conference for a few years to come. It would be an easy choice either way with 8 -1 vs pride. The tough choice would be both playing for championship or playoff bowl game spot. I tend to agree with you that it would be Wesley/NJAC champ for first round and I still wouldn't have been sold that they would give us the home advantage at 10-0 anyway.