FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[tweisman5]

Below are my projected postseason MAC participants. The #3 seed for the CC-MAC bowl series is difficult to project due to the five team tie for that seed. If I followed the tie-breaking procedure correct, I believe it favors Lycoming to fill the spot due to playing a tougher conference schedule. I think the ECAC will pick Wilkes over FDU due to having the head-to-head win.

2018 Projected MAC Postseason Teams (Thru Week 11)

NCAA Tournament
MAC Champ: Del Val

Centennial-MAC Bowl Series
#1 Franklin and Marshall vs. #1 Stevenson
#2 Susquehanna @ #2 Misericordia
#3 Ursinus vs. #3 Lycoming

ECAC Bowl
Wilkes

[gordonmann]

You're right. Lycoming gets that last spot.

[kate]

Del Val hosts Muhlenberg at home in Doylestown on Saturday!    GO AGGIES!!!

[jmcozenlaw]

I was not able to make the DelVal vs. Widener game on Saturday but I was surprised to see the blowout score. Friends of mine told me that there was an incident before the game when senior Vince Char laid out a freshman DelVal WR (half his size) and knocked him out of participating in the game. Even with the information as to what went down, the refs didn't even give Char nor Widener a slap on the wrist. That was Widener's first mistake (of many). You don't poke the bear. I heard that Char was a non-factor and the one or two plays he did make, he played to the small, quiet Widener "crowd" and pointed to himself in a "see me, see me" kind of way. That poked the bear yet again, and that's what gives you 33-0 on your home field.

On the other hand, I heard that the Nobile brothers were awesome and Char was quite pissed at his linemen. Karma is a biatch!!

I undersold DelVal this year after the sheer number of starters and studs who graduated from a National Quarterfinal team in 2017. I'm usually pretty spot on with this stuff (ask bman and simba if they ever reappear ) but I blew this one.

With the number of returning starters in 2019 and getting Stevenson and Widener (as well as Wesley) at home (and what might be 6 home and 4 road games.......the opposite of this year), next year could be a great year with solid QB play. They love the two backups that have been around for two years.

This year is gravy. Sorry for doubting you Aggies. You exceeded everybody's expectations....................other than your own!!

[@d3jason]

I think Del Val is still very good this season and in it all the way to the Keystone Cup. Darden is a winner, a senior, and has the ability to put that team on his back. They do a great job recruiting there and I'm pretty sure the cupboard isn't bare.

To me, Widener must be better at the quarterback position. The guy(s) from last year have a long way to go.

Stevenson has a senior QB, like DVU, and a fertile area for recruiting. They will have players.

To me, Lyco has to get bigger, stronger and faster. Always well-coached.

Jason - There is a MASSIVE difference between guessing, from a distance, that the "cupboard isn't bare" and actually knowing what is in and what's not in the cupboard. It's sort of like being set up on a blind date, where you HOPE that she is as attractive as your friend says that she is vs. actually knowing exactly what she looks like before meeting her

Widener and Stevenson should easily be able to take care of a young and rebuilding DelVal on their respective home fields. It's a mockery this year of that does NOT happen:

- 9 out of 11 defensive starters from last year's team gone, including All-Everything safety Miller, the other safety, both CB's, all 4 LB's and the stud nose tackle/heavyweight wrestler (Issak)

- 6 out of 11 offensive starters gone, including the MAC's best running back (Ellis) along with his two primary backup's.........and two All-MAC offensive linemen (Walsh and Sylvester)

- Team's best punt returner (multiple TD's last year) AND team's best kick returner (multiple TD's last year) gone. They are/were two separate players.

- Widener and Stevenson both on the road

- The only team in the MAC to not have perennial lightweight's FDU AND Misericordia NOT on their schedule in 2018 (and looks like 2019 as well)

If the coach at DelVal somehow wins the MAC given ALL of THAT........................not only should he win MAC Coach of the Year, but he should be the D-III Coach of the Year, Doug Pederson's (from the four time World Champion and Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles) heir apparent, a statue should be erected in Doylestown and he should be able to then make the blind see and heal the sick and eventually be cannonized (fellow Catholics will get that one)

This would be the all-time great coaching job in the history of the MAC. They lost the motherlode from last season while several other teams bring back a ton of experienced talent. We'll see how it plays out. That's why they play the games.

Hmmmm.....
I believe i had this one 😀

[lefty2]

 Lycoming had the tiebreaker by virtue of beating Misericordia.   All other tied teams lost to Misericordia.

[G-manWU]

To all of the Widener fans on this board: I humbly welcome you to the "My team got crushed in a shutout at home during our season-ending trophy game" club 

To call Saturday's results for the Colonels a disappointment would be a massive understatement. After the program made good progress and picked up some nice wins, I expected much better than a complete whipping at the hands of the Red and Gold. Credit to the Monarchs defense, as the unit completely shut down Wilkes on that side of the ball.

I hope the current and incoming crop of Colonels takes it as a lesson: the records go out the window for the Mayor's Cup. Past Wilkes teams poured every last bit of competitiveness into that game, no matter if their record coming in was 9-0 or 1-8.

Congrats to the Aggies on the well-deserved conference championship; should be a great game on Saturday. Congrats as well to all of the other teams earning MAC-Centennial Bowl and ECAC bids.

[jmcozenlaw]

I think Del Val is still very good this season and in it all the way to the Keystone Cup. Darden is a winner, a senior, and has the ability to put that team on his back. They do a great job recruiting there and I'm pretty sure the cupboard isn't bare.

To me, Widener must be better at the quarterback position. The guy(s) from last year have a long way to go.

Stevenson has a senior QB, like DVU, and a fertile area for recruiting. They will have players.

To me, Lyco has to get bigger, stronger and faster. Always well-coached.

Jason - There is a MASSIVE difference between guessing, from a distance, that the "cupboard isn't bare" and actually knowing what is in and what's not in the cupboard. It's sort of like being set up on a blind date, where you HOPE that she is as attractive as your friend says that she is vs. actually knowing exactly what she looks like before meeting her

Widener and Stevenson should easily be able to take care of a young and rebuilding DelVal on their respective home fields. It's a mockery this year of that does NOT happen:

- 9 out of 11 defensive starters from last year's team gone, including All-Everything safety Miller, the other safety, both CB's, all 4 LB's and the stud nose tackle/heavyweight wrestler (Issak)

- 6 out of 11 offensive starters gone, including the MAC's best running back (Ellis) along with his two primary backup's.........and two All-MAC offensive linemen (Walsh and Sylvester)

- Team's best punt returner (multiple TD's last year) AND team's best kick returner (multiple TD's last year) gone. They are/were two separate players.

- Widener and Stevenson both on the road

- The only team in the MAC to not have perennial lightweight's FDU AND Misericordia NOT on their schedule in 2018 (and looks like 2019 as well)

If the coach at DelVal somehow wins the MAC given ALL of THAT........................not only should he win MAC Coach of the Year, but he should be the D-III Coach of the Year, Doug Pederson's (from the four time World Champion and Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles) heir apparent, a statue should be erected in Doylestown and he should be able to then make the blind see and heal the sick and eventually be cannonized (fellow Catholics will get that one)

This would be the all-time great coaching job in the history of the MAC. They lost the motherlode from last season while several other teams bring back a ton of experienced talent. We'll see how it plays out. That's why they play the games.

Hmmmm.....
I believe i had this one 😀

Even a broken clock is correct twice a day . After nailing (almost 90%) final standings and many scores (again, the missing bman and simba would attest) for the last several years, I did not see this coming out of Doylestown (nor did the majority on the board). I almost get the impression that your call about the Aggies wasn't based on some in depth knowledge after all of the losses from 2017, rather, a call about the Aggies................just because they are the Aggies. I know that a few teams (players and coaches) were not so privately licking their chops to play DelVal this year after the massive losses from the national quarterfinal team. They blew their shot! I wonder what they think about next season, especially with the Aggies returning 9 on defense alone.

I will stand by my comment that Coach Greco should get MAC Coach of the Year (Miser did not play DelVal nor Stevenson and would have finished 5-3 in the MAC if they did) and they should erect the statue in Doylestown for what he did after all they lost.

Jason, you kind of disappeared after your call about the Aggies, with just a post about Widener after their first two games and another congratulating Matt Levy. Where did you go? I could have used your genius on how you ranked the MAC 2 through 11.

[jmcozenlaw]

To all of the Widener fans on this board: I humbly welcome you to the "My team got crushed in a shutout at home during our season-ending trophy game" club 

To call Saturday's results for the Colonels a disappointment would be a massive understatement. After the program made good progress and picked up some nice wins, I expected much better than a complete whipping at the hands of the Red and Gold. Credit to the Monarchs defense, as the unit completely shut down Wilkes on that side of the ball.

I hope the current and incoming crop of Colonels takes it as a lesson: the records go out the window for the Mayor's Cup. Past Wilkes teams poured every last bit of competitiveness into that game, no matter if their record coming in was 9-0 or 1-8.

Congrats to the Aggies on the well-deserved conference championship; should be a great game on Saturday. Congrats as well to all of the other teams earning MAC-Centennial Bowl and ECAC bids.

That game was even more stunning than the DelVal wipeout of Widener. Wilkes played DelVal tough on the road and the Aggies destroyed (and shutout) King's at home just last week. I thought Wilkes would beat King's by 10-13 points. I'm stunned!!

[ColbyFootball]

On the other hand, I heard that the Nobile brothers were awesome and Char was quite pissed at his linemen. Karma is a biatch!!

I had the Nobile brothers as 8th graders in an unlimited weight organization I ran. They were simply dominate kids, both physically and mentally tough. And they are two great kids. I expected them to be big impact players this year, but I didn't expect this much of an impact.

[jmcozenlaw]

On the other hand, I heard that the Nobile brothers were awesome and Char was quite pissed at his linemen. Karma is a biatch!!

I had the Nobile brothers as 8th graders in an unlimited weight organization I ran. They were simply dominate kids, both physically and mentally tough. And they are two great kids. I expected them to be big impact players this year, but I didn't expect this much of an impact.

They are outstanding as are the entire Brick contingent at DelVal. Word is that they are trying to get a few more buddies to join them in Doylestown for the next couple of years. I only made one game in person this year as I'm no longer in the area full time but this defense, with the two of them as the anchors, could be tremendous over the next 3 years. This year was gravy. They have a lot more class than Char from Widener and the Widener fans long gave up on this year's team and rarely chime in here anymore as a result. I miss my bman

[@d3jason]

I think Del Val is still very good this season and in it all the way to the Keystone Cup. Darden is a winner, a senior, and has the ability to put that team on his back. They do a great job recruiting there and I'm pretty sure the cupboard isn't bare.

To me, Widener must be better at the quarterback position. The guy(s) from last year have a long way to go.

Stevenson has a senior QB, like DVU, and a fertile area for recruiting. They will have players.

To me, Lyco has to get bigger, stronger and faster. Always well-coached.

Jason - There is a MASSIVE difference between guessing, from a distance, that the "cupboard isn't bare" and actually knowing what is in and what's not in the cupboard. It's sort of like being set up on a blind date, where you HOPE that she is as attractive as your friend says that she is vs. actually knowing exactly what she looks like before meeting her

Widener and Stevenson should easily be able to take care of a young and rebuilding DelVal on their respective home fields. It's a mockery this year of that does NOT happen:

- 9 out of 11 defensive starters from last year's team gone, including All-Everything safety Miller, the other safety, both CB's, all 4 LB's and the stud nose tackle/heavyweight wrestler (Issak)

- 6 out of 11 offensive starters gone, including the MAC's best running back (Ellis) along with his two primary backup's.........and two All-MAC offensive linemen (Walsh and Sylvester)

- Team's best punt returner (multiple TD's last year) AND team's best kick returner (multiple TD's last year) gone. They are/were two separate players.

- Widener and Stevenson both on the road

- The only team in the MAC to not have perennial lightweight's FDU AND Misericordia NOT on their schedule in 2018 (and looks like 2019 as well)

If the coach at DelVal somehow wins the MAC given ALL of THAT........................not only should he win MAC Coach of the Year, but he should be the D-III Coach of the Year, Doug Pederson's (from the four time World Champion and Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles) heir apparent, a statue should be erected in Doylestown and he should be able to then make the blind see and heal the sick and eventually be cannonized (fellow Catholics will get that one)

This would be the all-time great coaching job in the history of the MAC. They lost the motherlode from last season while several other teams bring back a ton of experienced talent. We'll see how it plays out. That's why they play the games.

Hmmmm.....
I believe i had this one 😀

Even a broken clock is correct twice a day . After nailing (almost 90%) final standings and many scores (again, the missing bman and simba would attest) for the last several years, I did not see this coming out of Doylestown (nor did the majority on the board). I almost get the impression that your call about the Aggies wasn't based on some in depth knowledge after all of the losses from 2017, rather, a call about the Aggies................just because they are the Aggies. I know that a few teams (players and coaches) were not so privately licking their chops to play DelVal this year after the massive losses from the national quarterfinal team. They blew their shot! I wonder what they think about next season, especially with the Aggies returning 9 on defense alone.

I will stand by my comment that Coach Greco should get MAC Coach of the Year (Miser did not play DelVal nor Stevenson and would have finished 5-3 in the MAC if they did) and they should erect the statue in Doylestown for what he did after all they lost.

Jason, you kind of disappeared after your call about the Aggies, with just a post about Widener after their first two games and another congratulating Matt Levy. Where did you go? I could have used your genius on how you ranked the MAC 2 through 11.

I have a job, family and other responsibilities that keep me plenty busy.

I knew what they were losing starter-wise but I did make my pick based on their roster. They are bring in 180 guys the last few years. Of course, not all stay, but it adds depth. And as I said they are well-coached and have created a culture of winning.

COY has to go to the Misericordia guy.... Great year for them after years of struggle, don't care who they played. 

[gordonmann]

Coach Ross was named Coach of the Year and Brady Williams (his quarterback) was named Offensive MVP.

Michael Nobile took home the Rookie of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year award. I'm glad the coaches didn't get hung up on him being a freshman and try to split the vote (give him ROY and someone else DPOY). He was the best defensive player I saw this year, with his brother not too far behind.

[jmcozenlaw]

I think Del Val is still very good this season and in it all the way to the Keystone Cup. Darden is a winner, a senior, and has the ability to put that team on his back. They do a great job recruiting there and I'm pretty sure the cupboard isn't bare.

To me, Widener must be better at the quarterback position. The guy(s) from last year have a long way to go.

Stevenson has a senior QB, like DVU, and a fertile area for recruiting. They will have players.

To me, Lyco has to get bigger, stronger and faster. Always well-coached.

Jason - There is a MASSIVE difference between guessing, from a distance, that the "cupboard isn't bare" and actually knowing what is in and what's not in the cupboard. It's sort of like being set up on a blind date, where you HOPE that she is as attractive as your friend says that she is vs. actually knowing exactly what she looks like before meeting her

Widener and Stevenson should easily be able to take care of a young and rebuilding DelVal on their respective home fields. It's a mockery this year of that does NOT happen:

- 9 out of 11 defensive starters from last year's team gone, including All-Everything safety Miller, the other safety, both CB's, all 4 LB's and the stud nose tackle/heavyweight wrestler (Issak)

- 6 out of 11 offensive starters gone, including the MAC's best running back (Ellis) along with his two primary backup's.........and two All-MAC offensive linemen (Walsh and Sylvester)

- Team's best punt returner (multiple TD's last year) AND team's best kick returner (multiple TD's last year) gone. They are/were two separate players.

- Widener and Stevenson both on the road

- The only team in the MAC to not have perennial lightweight's FDU AND Misericordia NOT on their schedule in 2018 (and looks like 2019 as well)

If the coach at DelVal somehow wins the MAC given ALL of THAT........................not only should he win MAC Coach of the Year, but he should be the D-III Coach of the Year, Doug Pederson's (from the four time World Champion and Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles) heir apparent, a statue should be erected in Doylestown and he should be able to then make the blind see and heal the sick and eventually be cannonized (fellow Catholics will get that one)

This would be the all-time great coaching job in the history of the MAC. They lost the motherlode from last season while several other teams bring back a ton of experienced talent. We'll see how it plays out. That's why they play the games.

Hmmmm.....
I believe i had this one 😀

Even a broken clock is correct twice a day . After nailing (almost 90%) final standings and many scores (again, the missing bman and simba would attest) for the last several years, I did not see this coming out of Doylestown (nor did the majority on the board). I almost get the impression that your call about the Aggies wasn't based on some in depth knowledge after all of the losses from 2017, rather, a call about the Aggies................just because they are the Aggies. I know that a few teams (players and coaches) were not so privately licking their chops to play DelVal this year after the massive losses from the national quarterfinal team. They blew their shot! I wonder what they think about next season, especially with the Aggies returning 9 on defense alone.

I will stand by my comment that Coach Greco should get MAC Coach of the Year (Miser did not play DelVal nor Stevenson and would have finished 5-3 in the MAC if they did) and they should erect the statue in Doylestown for what he did after all they lost.

Jason, you kind of disappeared after your call about the Aggies, with just a post about Widener after their first two games and another congratulating Matt Levy. Where did you go? I could have used your genius on how you ranked the MAC 2 through 11.

I have a job, family and other responsibilities that keep me plenty busy.

I knew what they were losing starter-wise but I did make my pick based on their roster. They are bring in 180 guys the last few years. Of course, not all stay, but it adds depth. And as I said they are well-coached and have created a culture of winning.

COY has to go to the Misericordia guy.... Great year for them after years of struggle, don't care who they played. 

180 guys? You're obviously not affiliated with the program nor speak to anybody who is. Numbers were down quite a bit this year and has never been close to 180 in the years before this one.

"Don't care who they (Misericordia) played? Nor do I. It was who they didn't play (DelVal and Stevenson), through zero fault of their own.

That matters. Mercy vote. Greco can't win it every year. They'd better do the MAC proud in the MAC vs. Centennial Bowl as the Aggies and Stevenson have done in the first two years.

Everybody has a few extra minutes a week...................with a job, family and other responsibilities.................to log on here and there. Again, your brilliance in not sharing teams #2-#11 cost me $$$$.

I'll make your 2019 pick for you now......................to save you a valuable two minutes, that you don't have , come August. The Aggies to win the MAC (or Misericordia, with the Coach of the Year, the returning offensive player of the year and not playing DelVal and Stevenson AGAIN next year, and we don't care who they do or don't play)

[jmcozenlaw]

Coach Ross was named Coach of the Year and Brady Williams (his quarterback) was named Offensive MVP.

Michael Nobile took home the Rookie of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year award. I'm glad the coaches didn't get hung up on him being a freshman and try to split the vote (give him ROY and someone else DPOY). He was the best defensive player I saw this year, with his brother not too far behind.

I only saw one game in person this year, but Nobile was a beast. He caused that havoc at only 228 pounds. Wait until he and his brother put some of that good weight back on in the offseason program! Amazing! Next year's DelVal defense returns 9 starters..................all four LB's, the Nobile's on the DL, 3 of the 4 DB's, along with great depth in the front seven and a few returners who were not on the roster (various reasons) this year and a rumored transfer or two (the Brick Boys recruit almost as great as they play). It could be a special year in Doylestown next year if they get solid QB play, and I hear they love the in-house heir apparent.