FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[jmcozenlaw]

The Aggies bludgeon Wesley......................45 - 10!!!!!!!!!

[Bartman]

Congrats to the Aggies...they left no doubt today. Good luck against upset statisfied North Central....... maybe a letdown after beating Mount Union???

[Stagg Again!!]

Congrats to the Aggies...they left no doubt today. Good luck against upset statisfied North Central....... maybe a letdown after beating Mount Union???

Congratulations to Del Valley... looking forward to the first ever meeting between NCC and DV next weekend.  I see that DV has the #3 ranked defense in the country behind Wheaton and Mount Union.  Can't wait to see if NCC's offense can handle that test. 

[Teamski]

Congrats to the Aggies for a really impressive performance out there on the field today.  You had Wesley by the short and curlies for just about the entire game.  Little opportunity for Fry to connect with the receivers and the offense was just too much for the Wolverine defence.  Good luck next week against Noth Central.

-Ski

[Mr. Ypsi]

Congrats to the Aggies...they left no doubt today. Good luck against upset statisfied North Central....... maybe a letdown after beating Mount Union???

Congratulations to Del Valley... looking forward to the first ever meeting between NCC and DV next weekend.  I see that DV has the #3 ranked defense in the country behind Wheaton and Mount Union.  Can't wait to see if NCC's offense can handle that test.

Well, since they just racked up 59 against the #2 defense today, I don't think the #3 defense will intimidate them!

And I seriously doubt they are satisfied with today's upset, magical as it is.  I suspect they are aiming now for a possible second shot at Wheaton (which would be in the Stagg Bowl if it happens).

[kiko]

Congrats to the Aggies...they left no doubt today. Good luck against upset statisfied North Central....... maybe a letdown after beating Mount Union???

Congratulations to Del Valley... looking forward to the first ever meeting between NCC and DV next weekend.  I see that DV has the #3 ranked defense in the country behind Wheaton and Mount Union.  Can't wait to see if NCC's offense can handle that test.

Well, since they just racked up 59 against the #2 defense today, I don't think the #3 defense will intimidate them!

And I seriously doubt they are satisfied with today's upset, magical as it is.  I suspect they are aiming now for a possible second shot at Wheaton (which would be in the Stagg Bowl if it happens).

For those who have not moseyed over to the CCIW board, I should point out that Mr. Ypsi is an Illinois Wesleyan guy, not a North Central guy.  Don't hold his irrational exuberance against us.

Any time you get this deep into the playoffs, you're gonna face a great team, and I'm sure Del Valley will be no exception.  Looking forward to the leadup and the game!

[ITH radio]

Game should be at DelVal. Curious to see if the NCAA does the right thing. Based on criteria, the Aggies should be the hosts.

[New Tradition]

Game should be at DelVal. Curious to see if the NCAA does the right thing. Based on criteria, the Aggies should be the hosts.

Curious what criteria that is?

[ITH radio]

To start, DVU is a 3 seed and NCC is a 4 in their respective regions. DVU is also a Pool A and NCC is a C. While I'll be the first to admit that NCC is the higher rated / better team from a rankings perspective, based on just those two data points, the Aggies should be the hosts.

Wally W would know more than I do I'll defer to him.

[ITH radio]

And of course, the lower seeded team gets to host.

[New Tradition]

To start, DVU is a 3 seed and NCC is a 4 in their respective regions. DVU is also a Pool A and NCC is a C. While I'll be the first to admit that NCC is the higher rated / better team from a rankings perspective, based on just those two data points, the Aggies should be the hosts.

Wally W would know more than I do I'll defer to him.

Interesting with Del Val being a 3 that they were on the road since round 1 but NCC hosted round 1. That would make it appear as though NCC was a 4 seed in this quadrant while Del Val was a 5/6. Just speculating but maybe it has to do with the losses? NCCs only loss was to Wheaton, who is holding down the 1 seed in their bracket, while Del Val got beat by the team they just got some vengeance on, but not a 1. I also wonder if, because there are no seeds announced officially, this is re-evaluated after each playoff game, in which case Saturday's results speak for themselves. Lastly, I'm not sure what Del Val's facilities are like, but NCCs are first class. I haven't seen many better. While it's moot now, I would be interested to hear the official take on it from Pat and/or Wally just to satisfy my own curiosity.  If you make the trip, Naperville is a wonderful place to visit; feel free to hit up the CCIW board for recommendations on food (there are a ton). And if not, enjoy our broadcast!

[ITH radio]

We got updated info. Don't really agree but it is what it is. Will discuss next show.

[wally_wabash]

To start, DVU is a 3 seed and NCC is a 4 in their respective regions. DVU is also a Pool A and NCC is a C. While I'll be the first to admit that NCC is the higher rated / better team from a rankings perspective, based on just those two data points, the Aggies should be the hosts.

Wally W would know more than I do I'll defer to him.

Interesting with Del Val being a 3 that they were on the road since round 1 but NCC hosted round 1. That would make it appear as though NCC was a 4 seed in this quadrant while Del Val was a 5/6. Just speculating but maybe it has to do with the losses? NCCs only loss was to Wheaton, who is holding down the 1 seed in their bracket, while Del Val got beat by the team they just got some vengeance on, but not a 1. I also wonder if, because there are no seeds announced officially, this is re-evaluated after each playoff game, in which case Saturday's results speak for themselves. Lastly, I'm not sure what Del Val's facilities are like, but NCCs are first class. I haven't seen many better. While it's moot now, I would be interested to hear the official take on it from Pat and/or Wally just to satisfy my own curiosity.  If you make the trip, Naperville is a wonderful place to visit; feel free to hit up the CCIW board for recommendations on food (there are a ton). And if not, enjoy our broadcast!

I think we can run around in circles trying to figure out with any certainty which team had which seed- this is part of why the NCAA doesn't slap those numbers on the brackets.  Geography blows those traditional assignments up, and certainly did so in this quadrant. 

Per the rankings, North Central was #4 in their region, Del Val was #3 in theirs.  However, they aren't in the same region, so those ordinals aren't directly related.  Certainly, if Chapman, ranked #1 in the West region, had won yesterday they would have traveled to Wheaton, ranked #2 in the North, this weekend.  So those regional rankings, when they come from different regions, while generally a good guide, aren't a concrete lock for figuring out which team should host. 

Based on the selection and seeding criteria, I think Del Val should be hosting this game as they have a stronger SOS and both teams have a similarly underwhelming RRO win (WashU, Stevenson).  But the difference isn't so huge that I'm surprised that North Central was selected. 

I also don't know if they add to their data sets as the tournament goes on.  I hope not.  I think a team's placement and hosting privileges for the tournament should be based entirely on criteria collected in the regular season.

[unionpalooza]

To start, DVU is a 3 seed and NCC is a 4 in their respective regions. DVU is also a Pool A and NCC is a C. While I'll be the first to admit that NCC is the higher rated / better team from a rankings perspective, based on just those two data points, the Aggies should be the hosts.

Wally W would know more than I do I'll defer to him.

Interesting with Del Val being a 3 that they were on the road since round 1 but NCC hosted round 1. That would make it appear as though NCC was a 4 seed in this quadrant while Del Val was a 5/6. Just speculating but maybe it has to do with the losses? NCCs only loss was to Wheaton, who is holding down the 1 seed in their bracket, while Del Val got beat by the team they just got some vengeance on, but not a 1. I also wonder if, because there are no seeds announced officially, this is re-evaluated after each playoff game, in which case Saturday's results speak for themselves. Lastly, I'm not sure what Del Val's facilities are like, but NCCs are first class. I haven't seen many better. While it's moot now, I would be interested to hear the official take on it from Pat and/or Wally just to satisfy my own curiosity.  If you make the trip, Naperville is a wonderful place to visit; feel free to hit up the CCIW board for recommendations on food (there are a ton). And if not, enjoy our broadcast!

I think we can run around in circles trying to figure out with any certainty which team had which seed- this is part of why the NCAA doesn't slap those numbers on the brackets.  Geography blows those traditional assignments up, and certainly did so in this quadrant. 

Per the rankings, North Central was #4 in their region, Del Val was #3 in theirs.  However, they aren't in the same region, so those ordinals aren't directly related.  Certainly, if Chapman, ranked #1 in the West region, had won yesterday they would have traveled to Wheaton, ranked #2 in the North, this weekend.  So those regional rankings, when they come from different regions, while generally a good guide, aren't a concrete lock for figuring out which team should host. 

Based on the selection and seeding criteria, I think Del Val should be hosting this game as they have a stronger SOS and both teams have a similarly underwhelming RRO win (WashU, Stevenson).  But the difference isn't so huge that I'm surprised that North Central was selected. 

I also don't know if they add to their data sets as the tournament goes on.  I hope not.  I think a team's placement and hosting privileges for the tournament should be based entirely on criteria collected in the regular season.

This is just more evidence that the NCAA's half-*ss selection and seeding process is total gobbledygook.  Who hosts who should be clear as crystal.  This is not rocket science.  They should other go with bracket integrity and rank the seeds 1-32 and pair accordingly (though I think they'd have no real basis to do so, given the limited inter-regional play), or go with the top 8 in each region, seeded appropriately, and let the regional winners fight in the semis.  I know the NCAA is cheap as hell, and would like to get to claim they support D3 without actually having to support it financially, but where they've landed has zero intellectual integrity and zero practical coherence..

[Pat Coleman]

And of course, the lower seeded team gets to host.

You're confusing regional ranking with seeding. They're not the same -- although they are drawn using the same info, once you take the eight teams and put them into a bracket, *then* they are seeded, and North Central was a higher seed than Del Val.