FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

jmcozenlaw · June 15, 2021, 10:46:07 AM

With most of my MAC buddies long gone from this board, I've been jumping around to much more robust conference boards. That said, it's mind boggling to me that a conference like the MAC, where each team is only looking to fill 2 OOC spots (vs. the NJAC with 5 OOC needs per team), has yet to post a full conference schedule (I miss Ken Andrews). In fact, about half of the MAC teams have filled one of their two OOC spots..........with other MAC teams!!

The camps open up in just 8 weeks or so...................let's see the schedules. Oy Vey!!!!!

RowanPhan · June 16, 2021, 07:54:28 PM

Quote from: jmcozenlaw on June 15, 2021, 10:46:07 AM
With most of my MAC buddies long gone from this board, I've been jumping around to much more robust conference boards. That said, it's mind boggling to me that a conference like the MAC, where each team is only looking to fill 2 OOC spots (vs. the NJAC with 5 OOC needs per team), has yet to post a full conference schedule (I miss Ken Andrews). In fact, about half of the MAC teams have filled one of their two OOC spots..........with other MAC teams!!

The camps open up in just 8 weeks or so...................let's see the schedules. Oy Vey!!!!!

I could be wrong but I assume the SIDs and departments are just busy especially any wrapping up spring sports... buy now with summer they might not get around to it until closer to the season. Who knows?

I was bugging Rowan a bit on twitter about when they would post their schedule

and luckily they always replied to me

ITH radio · June 17, 2021, 12:31:59 PM

MAC has the benefit of being such a big conf they probably can sit on schedule releases since they only need 1 OOC. The fact they are in Region 1 this fall could be an interesting advantage, seeding and otherwise, if/when the eventual 2021 MAC champ runs the table.

jmcozenlaw · June 17, 2021, 01:13:50 PM

Quote from: ITH radio on June 17, 2021, 12:31:59 PM
MAC has the benefit of being such a big conf they probably can sit on schedule releases since they only need 1 OOC. The fact they are in Region 1 this fall could be an interesting advantage, seeding and otherwise, if/when the eventual 2021 MAC champ runs the table.

ITH - They need 2 OOC's, not 1 as only 8 of the 10 games count as conference games. For example, Delval plays Kean and Montclair St. to start the season. I'm not sure that anybody runs the MAC this year given the motherlode that DelVal lost (if that's who you were thinking:) ........................unless Stevenson (who returns a ton) hit the transfer jackpot or a team like Widener did the same (with Wesley transfers).

ITH radio · June 17, 2021, 01:39:43 PM

Yeah, it's likely the MAC champ won't be an undefeated team, still should have an advantage playoff ranking wise vs. the mostly NE confs is what I was implying.

Wilkes schedule is up btw:

https://gowilkesu.com/sports/football/schedule?path=football

Guessing their game vs. MIS won't count as a MAC one based on how it's gone in the past.

jmcozenlaw · June 17, 2021, 02:49:54 PM

Quote from: ITH radio on June 17, 2021, 01:39:43 PM
Yeah, it's likely the MAC champ won't be an undefeated team, still should have an advantage playoff ranking wise vs. the mostly NE confs is what I was implying.

Wilkes schedule is up btw:

https://gowilkesu.com/sports/football/schedule?path=football

Guessing their game vs. MIS won't count as a MAC one based on how it's gone in the past.

Gotcha!! Stevenson, King's and LebVal are also up and on the D3football website. I guess Wilkes will be here shortly as well (although not sure how that works exactly).

bill · June 21, 2021, 10:59:31 AM

So what did I miss?

Hope everyone is back to "normal" come fall....

ITH radio · June 21, 2021, 11:54:39 AM

FDU's schedule was released earlier today. Love the opener on Friday night (9/3):

https://fdudevils.com/sports/football/schedule

bill · June 21, 2021, 02:38:59 PM

Yes. We (they, I guess now) have loved playing Friday nights for years. Was a great social event/high student body turnout...many other team's (Lycoming, Johns Hopkins) AD's used to like it too - because it saved their departments an overnight trip.

Now it seems as if MAC teams rarely play night games, even though a bunch of teams have had lights since the early 2000's.

MRMIKESMITH · June 24, 2021, 08:46:37 PM

Quote from: bill on June 21, 2021, 02:38:59 PM
Yes. We (they, I guess now) have loved playing Friday nights for years. Was a great social event/high student body turnout...many other team's (Lycoming, Johns Hopkins) AD's used to like it too - because it saved their departments an overnight trip.

Now it seems as if MAC teams rarely play night games, even though a bunch of teams have had lights since the early 2000's.

Albright and Salisbury have interchangeably hosted night games against each other for the past 3 to 6 years.

PBR... · July 01, 2021, 01:03:07 PM

DVU 2021 Schedule is up ... As they work towards their goal of another MAC Title....

https://athletics.delval.edu/sports/football/schedule

jmcozenlaw · July 07, 2021, 03:01:35 PM

Quote from: PBR... on July 01, 2021, 01:03:07 PM
DVU 2021 Schedule is up ... As they work towards their goal of another MAC Title....

https://athletics.delval.edu/sports/football/schedule

They lost a motherlode though. I will be interested to see how successful the two year reloading project has been!

lefty2 · July 09, 2021, 07:24:21 PM

Misericordia names new head coach.

https://athletics.misericordia.edu/news/2021/7/9/misericordia-names-john-davis-head-football-coach.aspx

The Mole · July 16, 2021, 12:04:48 PM

Just saw In the Huddle retweet this about former Lycoming coach (and Hall of Famer) Frank Girardi (it is his birthday). Top 10 in D3 history in wins with 257-97-5 record, a share of 13 MAC titles and 11 playoff appearances.
Very impressive. He and recruiter Rob Curry made a living out of the Philadelphia Catholic League. Since both of them have departed, the program has had a considerable drop.
What happened? They were a South Region power in mid to late eighties through the 90s.

jmcozenlaw · July 16, 2021, 02:05:31 PM

Quote from: The Mole on July 16, 2021, 12:04:48 PM
Just saw In the Huddle retweet this about former Lycoming coach (and Hall of Famer) Frank Girardi (it is his birthday). Top 10 in D3 history in wins with 257-97-5 record, a share of 13 MAC titles and 11 playoff appearances.
Very impressive. He and recruiter Rob Curry made a living out of the Philadelphia Catholic League. Since both of them have departed, the program has had a considerable drop.
What happened? They were a South Region power in mid to late eighties through the 90s.

The Philadelphia Catholic League that Lycoming sort of owned many moons ago has changed significantly with the sham of open enrollment and blatant recruiting efforts to grab kids many miles away from where they live (and from local, public schools as well). You should have seen the extent to which Wood went to try to get Josh Adams to transfer from C.B. South!!!. The other big joke is how the PIAA has allowed these schools to take part in state playoffs (but not for long though as a model similar to NJ is quietly being discussed in Harrisburg).

Take one look at the hometowns of the Archbishop Wood roster. Many of the football players get dropped off by a Septa bus at York & Street Roads...........after taking multiple buses to get there. Some of these kids pay zilch and those kids paying, wind up paying for them via higher tuition and fees.

St. Joe Prep is even a bigger joke. How these teams are still participating in the PIAA State Playoffs is a disgrace and it shows how spineless the PIAA truly is. They could give a rats azz about the kids and competitive balance.

It's all a changing though. Not a matter of 'if'..............just a matter of 'when'. The parents of non-athletes as well as alums and parents of players getting no time (and paying full freight) have had just about enough. I know first hand!!!