FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[gordonmann]

Big Doggy:

Wow.  That's pretty wild that a 3-0 game sparked $1.5 million in donations from the alums.  If that's true, I could see some college presidents and ADs hoping for one bad game a year so they can enjoy the financial windfall.

MacFan:

Another unique part of the Del Val turn around is that Mangus cleaned house when he came in.  He didn't slowly transition from the old guard to his guys.  From what I gather, he told incumbent players there was a new sheriff in town and they'd follow him or leave.  That allowed him to put young guys like Knoblauch in a position where they had a lot of experience by last year.

[patron2]

Patron 2,
The point I was trying to make is that although LVC and Juniata appear to be weak teams in the MAC, there are individual players on both teams that are quality athletes.  By making statements that these young men are losers offends me and I feel is a grossly inaccurate statement.  I'm sure that it's no easy task to make the commitment it takes to play college football, when you are on a losing team.  The fact that these young men make this commitment, in my opinion, makes them winners regardless of their record.  Personally Patron, the only one I am suspect of being a loser is you.

Tell me bro, how many ribbons for 8th place do you have hanging on your wall?

[splik]

patron - go back to Jersey and quit criticizing something of which you were never really a part.  it's easy being a critic, sounds like you wish you had ANY ribbon on your wall

[patron2]

You guys are correct.  I should be more compassionate to good kids that are stuck on lousy teams. 

I will now direct my posts towards lousy coaches that have no idea what they are doing.. Because it is always the coaches fault if things dont work out.

[Billman56]

ubrmesap....DITTO from me also on your last post!!! Just keep in mind that no one wants to see an upstart like DVC come in and take over the top spot against the past performances of the former top dogs. Change is always inevitable, some good, some not so good, but there will always be nay sayers who dont like it and refuse to conform. Like last year DVC is the TOP DOG this year so far and it maybe that they will go all the way and clinch the MAC title once again.

readytorock...see you Saturday....

[CJSJAGS]

CJS,
I "heard " that Pete Mannotti has broken his leg, if so I am truly sorry to hear it!

That is truly awful for the young man if it is true..... Would he be able to get a medical redshirt even if he is a graduating senior?

[Billman56]

Splik....Dont Beat up on New Jersey, it really isnt that bad...lol.
Just ignore Patron2....that thorn is stuck way, way up there!!

[bman]

Gordon

You know, it's funny....I wonder if that isn't part of the issue at WU.  It seems that we have difficulty getting talent that is making an impact....

I know you can't get a Jones/Colemen/Warker every year (Maybe we can have Keeler send us a few more ) but it seems logical at this point that Mangus truly has out recruited the rest of the MAC....

PS do they still serve soup in the press box?  I always enjoyed that....

[PBR...]

i already have the game face on for dvc/lyco since my sister graduated from lyco and i had to eat dirt for alot of years i cannot tell you how good thanksgiving day dinner tasted last year when we got together and football talk ensued!!  LETS GO AGGIES!!!!

[MOJO]

Patron 2,
Thanks for the apology, but please do not insult myself or family by refering to me as bro.  You are not my brother, let alone a friend.  You are just one more example of the fact that the older I get, and the more people I meet, the more I like my dog.

[WUDLINE]

the qualifications for incoming student has changed greatly at WU over the past few years. Many of the players from the past would not be accepted today. It is not a case of being out recruited it is simply a case of certian schools recruiting under different criteria.

[LVCALUM]

I have heard rumors that there is a great disparity in the student-athletes that teams in the MAC recruit, specifically that some schools will accept borderline students that would not be accepted by other schools.  Does anyone have any concrete evidence that this is true?  From my own experience, I know that the financial aid packages offered to students vary a lot from school to school, and of course this is a key factor in deciding where to go.  I would think that this has a bigger impact on which schools get the best players, rather than ability to recruit borderline students who are better football players.

[jb]

LVC ALUM... alot of what you said is true. My son attends lycoming as a freshman,  he was accepted early in the application process.  Many Mac schools and some state run schools called  and offered to beat lyco's package no matter what.  We told them that's where he(our son) wants to go, they wouldn't call for about a week, and then it started all over again.  We talked to financial aid about it..they said they are not supposed to do that....back bidding after they know what the finan. aid package contains. But at least 3 mac schools did that to us.  Our son was a decent student in high school- SAT 1100(old test), 3.2 GPA.
Some mac schools do accept much lower numbers  (SAT's,GPA) for admissions than other schools.  I guess it's just the policy of the school.

[LVCALUM]

I remember playing against Del Val when they were routinely a 1-9, 2-8 type team.  I think that one thing that people overlook is the level of experience they have on their team.  For example, I played against their starting QB; he is still playing, while I am 2 years out of college.  Experience is very important, and I would guess that Del Val is now reaping the benefits of deciding to take its lumps with younger players a few years ago.

In addition, I think football is a very momentum-driven game.  Recruits see a winning team, and they want to become a part of it.  Suddenly, talented players in the Philadelphia area have another option besides Lycoming and Widener, which is where most of these players seemed to wind up.  Given the fact that Lyco is a 3 hour drive from Philadelphia, and Widener's campus is less than picturesque, suddenly Del Val is a great choice.

[WUDLINE]

I agree that winning does help. However, I guess you have not been on Wideners campus lately. New dorms, academic buildings, and what could be the best stadium in division 3. It is simply a matter of cost and recruiting criteria. Furthermore, Del Val has a staff that has worked hard to continue the recruiting ties they made while working at other schools.