FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[MOJO]

Pursuant to the Susquehanna issue, per sources close to the program, they need drastic improvement at the QB position.  In my mind the one kid that could make a difference in that program, has been injured the last two seasons.  I am amazed that even in a D3 program, every school would not have a reasonably proficient QB and backups.  I also make that statement concerning extra point kickers.  Albeit, D3 football, but college football non the less.  Hope I havn't offended anyone here, but if you wanna be a lumberjack, you better be able to hold up your end of the log.

[Warren Thompson]

MOJO:

In a year or two, the MAC room will find most discussions about Susquehanna irrelevant. By that time, the Crusaders be the Liberty League's "problem," as it were. 

[ktroutvon]

Warren,

  Actually I was asking about Susquehanna as a LL school alum?  I had heard that they used to have a decent program but have struggled the last few years.

  I am trying to see if there is much of an improvement for the strength of the conference by, in effect, swapping Coast Guard for Susquehanna.

['gro]

The real question is does Susquehanna have posters that can hang with the studs in the LL board?

[ktroutvon]

I'm pretty sure the answer is no. 

Do they at least have a stupid mascot that makes hobart's look good?

[Lyco80]

Well, well, it appears as if all the chatter about who is jumping ship from the MAC was right after all.  Juniata and Moravian to the Centennial and Susquehanna to Liberty.  I am curious as to what my fellow posters think about this development.

Will this move signal a desertion from the MAC in other sports?  Is this truly about wins and losses, or is something else afoot?  I am most surprised by Susquehanna's move as it forces their non-scholarship student-athletes into a much more rigorous travel situation - something that, at least on the surface, seems to be in contradiction to the lofty academic pursuits they like to claim for themselves.

I find the whole thing a bit amusing - this notion that one MAC school is somehow more virtuous than others - whether it is in regard to athletics, academics or facilities.  All this posturing strikes me as marketing and business and makes me wonder if other business concerns are at work such as assets and liabilities.  In other words, are these schools using a conference shift as a cosmetic makeover to address other concerns?

Make no mistake about it - higher education postures itself as a lofty pursuit - but in the end - it is as much a business as General Motors or General Dynamics with a product and a consumer.  It will be interesting to see what transpires in the next decade or so.  By the way, can anybody tell me whatever became of Upsala??

All the best.

[phil]

While I assume your query about Upsala was rhetorical, nonetheless half the college is now East Orange Campus High School, and the other was leveled to build a housing project. If you want to see it one last time rent the 2001 film "Riding in Cars with Boys" with James Woods and Drew Barrymore – it was filmed on the empty campus.

...and I vote for TCNJ to join the MAC.

[Wildcat'64]

Thanks for the coast to coast support of D3 All American Quarterback Brett Elliot.  The candidate has received over 1,000 votes since being nominated for the Heisman.  The vote total puts Elliot in 7th place out of 41 candidates.  Thanks to all who have cast their ballots in support of a D3 candidate.  If you have not yet voted you may cast your ballot at www.voteforheisman.com

[Warren Thompson]

Phil:

On behalf of LVC and the remnants of the MAC, I hereby accept your vote. 

[gordonmann]

Not that it's a huge deal, but it looks like the MAC would have to amend its bylaws for TCNJ to join.  Right now the bylaws indicate members must be "private colleges."

On another note, the Doylestown Intelligencerdid a great story on Del Val QB Adam Knoblauch.  It's a very good story about his unique journey.

You can read that here

[Knightstalker]

I'm pretty sure the answer is no. 

Do they at least have a stupid mascot that makes hobart's look good?

There is no stupid mascot that could make the Hobart stupid mascot look good.

[ktroutvon]

Well then why are we taking them?

[Billman56]

Knightstalker

What is Hobarts mascot??


Gordo....The Philadelphis Daily News also did a nice article for Knoblauch

[Knightstalker]

Here is the Hobart Mascot

[Warren Thompson]

Gordon:

Given the recent defections, perhaps the MAC Bonzen might look favorably on the addition of an academically and athletically sound venue such as TCNJ.

[If laws are meant to be broken, then by-laws are meant to be revised.  ]