FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[pg04]

Pat,
However as I recall, the issue was a below 700 board score on the SAT.  If I was wrong I apologize, and stand corrected. 

You recall wrong. Please stop arguing the point with specifics that you cannot remember and don't want to exert the effort to find.

If he replies with another Mount Union "Fact" that just proves his memory is bad.

[MOJO]

Pat and Port,
In your opinions, what do you feel is the secret to Mt. Unions ongoing success.  Is it safe to assume that their athletes are superior from other D3 schools?  Do they have superior coaching?  Or both?  I believe they recruit better athletes.  You look at their history, it's pretty impressive.  If they are gettin better athletes, how are they doing it?  Commentary please.

[gordonmann]

The Monarchs' hopes for a MAC title are still alive, but they'll have to get through Delaware Valley to keep it that way.

If you can't get to Wilkes-Barre, let us bring you the action...

Delaware Valley

vs.

King's

Pregame begins at 1:00 PM with kickoff at 1:30 pm on www.allinbroadcasting.com.

[theoriginalupstate]

Pat and Port,
In your opinions, what do you feel is the secret to Mt. Unions ongoing success.  Is it safe to assume that their athletes are superior from other D3 schools?  Do they have superior coaching?  Or both?  I believe they recruit better athletes.  You look at their history, it's pretty impressive.  If they are gettin better athletes, how are they doing it?  Commentary please.

There is no secret to their success, all that was needed to start it was a national championship.  Once they got their first one it started to grab the attention of the great football players in Ohio.  It got rolling from there, kids in Ohio knew they could go there and get a great chance at winning a Championship.  Ohio is a great state for HS football so the talent pool is huge.  These kids can either go to a scrub D-1, D-1AA, D-II school or go to a D-III School win 98% of the games you play in and have a legitimate shot at winning 2 or 3 National Championships....

Its not like MUC is going out and actively recruiting transfers, its against NCAA rules, these kids come to them and your going to bash their program because these kids want to go there and play for a winner?

[MOJO]

Yo Upstate,
Read what I had written.  Not once have I bashed the Mt. Union program.  Yes, per Pat I was misinformed concerning a specific athlete's reasoning for not attending Ohio State.  If anything, I am in awe of what they have achieved.  Look at their historical record and it's quite impressive.  So please, don't state I'm bashing a program when I'm not!

[pg04]

Pat and Port,
In your opinions, what do you feel is the secret to Mt. Unions ongoing success.  Is it safe to assume that their athletes are superior from other D3 schools?  Do they have superior coaching?  Or both?  I believe they recruit better athletes.  You look at their history, it's pretty impressive.  If they are gettin better athletes, how are they doing it?  Commentary please.

There is no secret to their success, all that was needed to start it was a national championship.  Once they got their first one it started to grab the attention of the great football players in Ohio.  It got rolling from there, kids in Ohio knew they could go there and get a great chance at winning a Championship.  Ohio is a great state for HS football so the talent pool is huge.  These kids can either go to a scrub D-1, D-1AA, D-II school or go to a D-III School win 98% of the games you play in and have a legitimate shot at winning 2 or 3 National Championships....

Its not like MUC is going out and actively recruiting transfers, its against NCAA rules, these kids come to them and your going to bash their program because these kids want to go there and play for a winner?

2 or 3! how bout all 4 years of championships!  Seriously all of these players could go 4 years without even losing a game! With MUC, its possible

[zoolander]

to enlighten your topic on mounts success along with the strength of the oac...  penn. and ohio have pretty much the same pool of high school players to recruite from...  however, ohio doesnt have a d2 football league such as pennsy...   in example an all state player could be recruited by 10 division 2 teams in p.a. with  scholarship money. whereas in ohio its usually d1 -   d1-a or bust... meaning go  have fun and compete for a national title at mount.  also mount doesnt recruit transfers... esp from out of state...  i know a player who looked in to transferring to mount from widener in spring 2000.  he ended up at lycoming in fall 2000.   boy that was a bad move... 

[theshade]

Del Val sticks with the running game. 10-0 over kings. Nice job by the O-line and Sheffield today. 44 carries for 174 yds 1 TD. Bill Miller hits a 20+ yard field goal into a stiff wind that seemed to take forever to get through. The defense was very good again this week. Way to come back after a tough loss last week. congrats to the coaching staff and players.

[WUMAC]

Lets get back to the MAC.....

Question, for pat,i know this is cocky but its the truth when Wilkes wins the MAC, Could it be the first MAC team to be seeded number one if Hobart loses to union next week, or was there already a MAC team to do this? Also will Springfield, Rowan still remain in front of Wilkes with their losses(Doubt this question)? Can any team handle the Wilkes home crowd when they have a playoff game?

Just looking for thoughts of what you think about everything, and how Wilkes is looking to make the Stagg Bowl?

[Pat Coleman]

The last MAC team to be seeded No. 1 was 2005, when Delaware Valley got the top seed.

We'll do a full playoff projection this week, as in previous seasons.

[Jonny Utah]

The last MAC team to be seeded No. 1 was 2005, when Delaware Valley got the top seed.

We'll do a full playoff projection this week, as in previous seasons.

Its gotta be real tough right now to make predictions in the east, at least with some of the E8/LL big games comming up the last two weeks.

[Warren Thompson]

... and how Wilkes is looking to make the Stagg Bowl?

Not certain what you mean by the words above. Do you mean to say you think the Colonels have a good shot at going to Salem? If so, why and how?

While the MAC is a very competitive conference, if not a also a cannibalistic one, can MAC member Wilkes run with the likes of UMHB, St. John's, Linfield, Capital, Hardin-Simmons, Trinity, UWW, and ... yes, please,  let's not forget about those purple-clad visitors from another galaxy who hang their hats in Alliance, Ohio?

It would be nice if the folks from Wilkes-Barre could go deep into the playoffs, but ... but ... and yet ....

[gordonmann]

I think Wilkes will be competitive in the East region bracket.  I don't see them getting clocked like they did in Glassboro last year.  I don't think it's unrealistic to call them a strong contender for a national semifinal spot.  But I don't think it's realistic to project them as a Stagg Bowl contender.

[Warren Thompson]

I don't think it's unrealistic to call them a strong contender for a national semifinal spot. 

Wow, really? The Wilkes team that was fortunate to get out of Annville with a three-point win v. an LVC squad that assays -- with no guarantees -- to go 6-4 this season?

Yet ... what do I know?  Apparently that's why I'm a teacher rather than a football maven.

[MACguy]

I agree that Wilkes is a strong contender to be a semifinal team, I believe they have a shot at winning the east region. No guarantees but a shot. If they play all games at home, that will give them a better shot which obviously goes for every team. Im hoping for them to appear in the stagg bowl but that would mean they have to head to Ohio first... 

Even though the margin of victory in their games isn't always big, I believe Wilkes plays to the level of competition of their opponents, which is not a good way to play in the playoffs, but like a writer of d3football.com said "Wilkes just wins." And the reason they beat LVC by 3 is because LVC is a good football team. They just couldn't hold on in the end in a few big games. But much credit is due to LVC for a great season with the great team they have.

Wilkes... MAC (CO for now)CHAMPS LIKE THE COACHES PREDICTED
Congrats to them and best of luck in the dance.
Also, good luck to Widener in the final 2 weeks to a possible at-large bid.