FB: Middle Atlantic Conference

[Teamski]

Congratulations to Delaware Valley for one hell of a good game.  You guys deserved it!   

-Ski

[bman]

2 big late TD wins for the MAC...proving it's not how you start, but how you finish!

great job today

[DVCFan11]

great job aggies  great job!!! could we be looking at a top 25 aggies team now? i mean come on they beat the number two ranked team in the country thats gotta earn them some love..

[wesleydad]

to all the delval fans, congrats on the victory.  the aggies showed a lot of guts with the second half comeback.  they outplayed and outcoached the wolverines in the second half and deserved the win.  as i had said earlier in the week, wesley will have to protect the ball to win and they didnt in the second half.  the aggies are a very gutsy team and had a good game plan on defense, taking away the big play and yielding yards on the ground.  the gamble payed off and the coaches deserve a lot of credit.  good luck the rest of the year, you will win many games with that type of effort.

[PBR...]

a huge win for the aggies well done!!!!

[D3FBFan55]

to all the delval fans, congrats on the victory.  the aggies showed a lot of guts with the second half comeback.  they outplayed and outcoached the wolverines in the second half and deserved the win.  as i had said earlier in the week, wesley will have to protect the ball to win and they didnt in the second half.  the aggies are a very gutsy team and had a good game plan on defense, taking away the big play and yielding yards on the ground.  the gamble payed off and the coaches deserve a lot of credit.  good luck the rest of the year, you will win many games with that type of effort.

Classy response from a Wesley fan.  Another reason these boards are so good.  Even though your favorite team may not win, you still have the integrity to give credit.

[FearTheRam]

What a game by the Aggies!!!!! Congrats to you guys. That was a most impressive performance. You all left it all on the field and refused to quit no matter what happened during the game. Defense was awesome holding Beaver and co. virtually in check and the offense and coach Greco were magnificent on the last drive of the game.

[KingSting999]

kingsting, be careful what you wish for.  delval played almost a perfect game last year and still lost.  wesley had 4 turnovers and was still able to win.  granted they will have to protect the ball better then last year or it will be a close game, if not it wont be.  since wesley's o line is at least as big as iona's with all 5 returning from last year it could be a long day for delval.

i think dvcfan must have been at last years game to make that statement.  he is aware of how good wesley may be this year.

I guess wishes do come true!

[KingSting999]

Can I get a little LOVE for Coach Clements and his Aggie squad who planned, executed and delivered the biggest win in Delaware Valley football history.

Way to go guys!!!!!

Wesley was the same team I have come to know pretty well over the last five years. Extremely athletic, big and agile. They are able usually to control other teams with their size and quickness and rely on big play abilities on both sides of the ball and special teams. Their main flaw, in my opinion, has been the fact that they have been and will continue to be undisiplined on the field.

Del Val was not even in their class as far as size and ability  goes but as stated many time, " It ain't the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!!!! " Go ahead and "bark" a litlle bit Aggies, it's well deserved!

(Let me apologize now for any misspelling or grammar mistakes, I'm just an old farm boy hunting and pecking with one finger)

[KingSting999]

fear, thanks for the heads up on the tailgating.  we will keep it in mind as we plan for the game.

king, it is your belief that based on last years game delval has a chance to win.  since last years game has very little to do with this years, i based my opinion on what i have heard about delval so far this year.  i believe i read where they struggled in the scrimmage with ursinus, who by the way played well beating alfred this weekend.  i also listened to the game this weekend and although i am sure the weather had an effect on both teams, i did not hear much that makes me think that if wesley does not turn the ball over delval has a chance.

as far as me inferring anything, i dont bother inferring, i will tell u what i think.  wesley is expected to be better on offense this year and delval is not expected to be as good on defense, that combination may be trouble for delval.  obviously you didnt read the entire post or only chose the parts to argue with, i said the the game will be close if wesley does not protect the ball.

since nothing matters until the game is played and all of this is just conjecture, but wesley is expected to be very good, you dont get ranked 3 in the nation by chance.  that is why we have conversation.  you can point out why you believe delval will win and i will gladly read your comments and respond in kind.

Does this make the Aggies Number 2 in the nation or was that win yesterday just a chance kinda thing?

Funny, in all of your posts last week you never really said the Aggies could win, just that they could remain close if Wesley didn't protect the ball. Funny thing, I was counting on those turnovers and mental mistakes by the Wesley team, they didn't disappoint me!

[wesleydad]

kingsting, you make me laugh.  i dont recall you mentioning anything about wesley making mistakes prior to the game.  mentioning the fact after it has occurred proves nothing.  why didnt you post all that knowledge (your opinion) before the game?  i guess you werent as confident in your aggies as i was in wesley.

as far as delval being #2, that will be up to the voters just as it was when wesley was voted #3. 

since you mentioned the chance kinda thing, if you were at the game and saw the first half i would find it hard to believe that you still expected delval to win the game, but i doubt you will admit that.  wesley fumbles twice, misses an extra point, has 15 penalties, and delval still needs to score a td at the end of the game to win.  enjoy the aggies victory as they did what had to be done to win, but make an effort to be more objective about things in the future.

check the posts, i believe i was the first or second person to come on here after the game to give props to the delval coaches for their game plan.  i doubt you would have done the same if the second half went like the first half did.  i dont go on other sites to stir things up, i go to have conversation about upcoming games.  hopefully getting some insight about wesley opponents from people who follow the team since i dont know everything about them and the d3 information in kickoff is limited due to space.  most of the time i find knowledgable people willing to exchange ideas and make predictions about the upcoming games, unfortunately there are also homers who have trouble hearing another point of view.  you figure out which one you are.

finally, i did not mention that delval might win the game because i did not think they could, my opinion, which was proved wrong by the results.  i dont recall you predicting a victory for the aggies at any time prior to the game.  enjoy the win as it should lead to a good season and possible playoff appearance.  save your gloating about your opinion for when you actually post it before a game.

[wesleydad]

wudline, you asked a question before the game about the dline and whether they could put any pressure on the qb.  it seems that they struggled yesterday.  they were able to put some pressure on isgro but he was able to ellude most of it.  they also seemed to fall victim to the heat and being on the field for much of the second half.  another question that will have to be answered is the pass coverage, wesley had trouble covering the middle routes.  we will see if that changes, but good observation before the game.  congrats on the delval win.

[FearTheRam]

Wesleydad & PA wesley, I guess you now know what it felt like for the Aggies last year. Winning the entire game, only to have victory ripped from your clutches in the final minutes of the game. Additionally, your guys felt the heat effects on defense that our guys dealt with last year, only it wasn't nearly as hot yesterday. While you (PA) profess to not "trying" to stir the pot, that is exactly what you are trying to do with your "conversations" on other teams boards. I don't read other boards, nor care to read them, as my team is the AGGIES and I'm only interested in them. Knowing the Wolverines were ranked high, and well regarded with their plethora of All Americans, certainly didn't bode well for the AGGIES who were filling a lot of holes with new faces and a lot of young guys. It's not easy for Coach to recruit as DVC's facilities aren't anything to showcase, but he's obviously done a nice job with the kids he's brought in, as they are a gutsy and scrappy group of kids.

As to how DVC fans were feeling at the half, I can honestly tell you that being down only 16 points gave me hope. I actually felt we were in the game, and thought it could have been much worse.

As for pre-game pontificating, and predicting, since it's an effort in futility, and we don't get to play the game, I don't feel the need to call a winner. That's why they play the games on Saturdays. Additionally, since I don't get to watch game films and I don't go personally scout opponents, and I don't like to take the word or others, I would only be guessing about a possible outcome. So, while I secretly hoped my AGGIES would win, I also knew it would be a very tough game. However, after the game they gave Wesley last year, their was a bit of confidence in a possible win. Projecting that on the board, would be bragging, and that's not my style.

For the record Wesley was definately outcoached, and unfortunately outplayed in the quarter that counts the most, the 4th. Our guys dug deep and found what they needed to win the game, and they should be very proud of themselves. I know I'm proud of all of them.

[KingSting999]

kingsting, you make me laugh.  i dont recall you mentioning anything about wesley making mistakes prior to the game.  mentioning the fact after it has occurred proves nothing.  why didnt you post all that knowledge (your opinion) before the game?  i guess you werent as confident in your aggies as i was in wesley.

Glad I could help out and make you laugh, you obviously need a little levity after yesterdays outcome. It's a given that Wesley will make mistakes aand have turnovers in their games, especially in pressure situations. Most time they are able to overcome thyem with their superior athletic ability and playmakers. I'm confident in the Aggies every game, I don't just hope that they win but expect they will win every game! 8) 8) 8)

[KingSting999]

since you mentioned the chance kinda thing, if you were at the game and saw the first half i would find it hard to believe that you still expected delval to win the game, but i doubt you will admit that.  wesley fumbles twice, misses an extra point, has 15 penalties, and delval still needs to score a td at the end of the game to win.  enjoy the aggies victory as they did what had to be done to win, but make an effort to be more objective about things in the future.

No, you brought up the "chance" thing. I was at the game as I have been for the past four years and nothing the Aggies do on the field ever, ever causes me to doubt their ability to win. You certainly have that frontrunner loser lament of if we didn't fumble, if we didn't have penalties, yada,yada,yada. That's why they play these games.