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KingSting999

Quote from: wesleydad on September 14, 2008, 10:42:17 AM

finally, i did not mention that delval might win the game because i did not think they could, my opinion, which was proved wrong by the results.  i dont recall you predicting a victory for the aggies at any time prior to the game.  enjoy the win as it should lead to a good season and possible playoff appearance.  save your gloating about your opinion for when you actually post it before a game.

Finally, I will leave the game predictions to smug guys like yourself :o :o :o

maAggie

Congrats to the Aggies on an outstanding win yesterday. The Wolverines are certainly a formidable opponent and have many weapons to beat you with. Keeping their offense in check as you did was quite a feat for the defense. I think we were the beneficiaries of tired, sloppy play by Wesley's defense when we went into our no-huddle offense on that last impressive scoring drive. Wesley had guys tapping out and trying to rush subs in, and that seemed to get them out of sync. They also had a lot of guys cramping up during that last quarter.
I have a question for Gordon/Wesleydad/WesleyPa: any word on why the QB switch in the second half? I was a little surpised since they certainly were better offensively in the first half than the second...

Again congratulations to Coach Clements/Fedick/Greco and staff and all the Aggie players for such an entertaining game.

wesleydad

maAggie, congrats on the win.  very insiteful about the last scoring drive.  i talked to jason after the game and he did not get any official reason other than mcsweeny was going in.  several of us also wondered about the timing since the change was made after the 2 fumbles in the 3rd quarter.  if it was for a change of pace as those changes usually are, then why were the play calls the same.  also, putting beavers at qb never happened again since schatz played receiver 2 years ago and led the team in receptions.  it seemed to have limited the choices as only 5 passes were thrown with 3 completions for 27 yards, one of which was the td which went for 14.  so i would have to agree that it seems that the offense has more options with schatz at qb.  he did not have his best game, but some of the credit has to go to the delval d as they seemed to get pressure on every play action pass attempt.  d3 has some great pictures of aggies in his face on several plays.

gordonmann

I don't have any insight on Wesley's QB switch during the second half.  

To be honest, Wesley didn't have much trouble moving the ball on the Aggies.  Pennewell and Jackson combined for 246 yards on 40 carries, which is 6.2 yards per pop.  The Wolverines outgained Del Val 343-282.  If you take away the two drives ended by the halves, Wesley scored on four of eight drives.

I think the more important factors in the Aggies upset win were:

* Turnovers:  Del Val played a very clean game and didn't give the ball away.  Wesley fumbled the ball twice in their own territory to start the third quarter.  Not only did that stop two Wesley drives, it led to 10 Del Val points and gave the Aggies the chance to win late.  If the Wolverines score on the first drive of the second half and fumble in the fourth quarter, maybe the turnovers don't effect the momentum as much.

* Penalties:  Wesley finished with 16 penalties for 145 yards.  There weren't just a lot of penalties, but some poorly timed ones.  A roughing the punter penalty on fourth and 13 kept the drive alive that led to the Brandon Fox touchdown reception.  The Wolverines picked up two penalties that changed a two-point conversion from a reasonable chance (remember they gained 6.2 yards per carry) into a long shot.

* Big plays in big spots by the Aggies: Wesley helped Del Val's cause by making mistakes, but the Aggies made some huge plays down the stretch - Isgro's touchdown scramble on fourth down to get on the board, Dan Heiland making several big catches, Fox's ricochet touchdown reception.  Del Val scored on its last four drives and went four for four on fourth down in the second half.

It's a fantastic win for Del Val.  Fortunately they have a little time to enjoy it.

But Salisbury will be just as hard.  They are out gaining opponents 380 to 38 yards per game on the ground and are 2-0 with wins over teams that were expected to be pretty good (Albright, Geneva).

PA_wesleyfan

Fear the Ram.

I DO NOT go to other boards to stir up trouble... You obviously don't read my posts.
Or you are giving me credit for other people posts ???... I give my opinions on what I feel the teams have and what happens if certain things occur during a game. I have many friends on different boards that I have met over the years and we do trade sarcasm
now and then..
As for the Aggies, I have watched many of their players in high school and I know what they can do. And I hope they do well. I live 3 miles from Del Val and have for 32 years and until a few years ago Del Val didn't even recruit locally. So there wasn't much reason to pay much attention to them other than Wrestling.
Del Val had a good win yesterday and played well and I do hope they win the MAC.
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muledaddy



For the Aggies,

Well done .....on any given Saturday,  miricles can happen....great preparation and great execution

will pay dividends.Zach,the defense, and the entire team deserve the joy of this great season opener. Go get that MAC....


D3FBFan55

I'll tell you, the Aggies OOC schedule is extremely tough.  I would assume that makes the conference schedule much easier.  But starting out 0-3 like last year had to be a downer.  Nice win on Saturday!!!  That was one of the most exciting games I have seen in some time.  How is Salisbury this year compared to Wesley?

PBR...


formerwu

Congrats DVC.  Way to represent.  Good luck next week.

Way to go Widener.  Anybody at the game against NCW this weekend?  Looks like the D showed up.
A flute with no holes, is not a flute.  A donut with no holes, is a danish.

@d3jason

Quote from: gordonmann on September 14, 2008, 05:22:48 PM
I don't have any insight on Wesley's QB switch during the second half.  

To be honest, Wesley didn't have much trouble moving the ball on the Aggies.  Pennewell and Jackson combined for 246 yards on 40 carries, which is 6.2 yards per pop.  The Wolverines outgained Del Val 343-282.  If you take away the two drives ended by the halves, Wesley scored on four of eight drives.

I think the more important factors in the Aggies upset win were:

* Turnovers:  Del Val played a very clean game and didn't give the ball away.  Wesley fumbled the ball twice in their own territory to start the third quarter.  Not only did that stop two Wesley drives, it led to 10 Del Val points and gave the Aggies the chance to win late.  If the Wolverines score on the first drive of the second half and fumble in the fourth quarter, maybe the turnovers don't effect the momentum as much.

* Penalties:  Wesley finished with 16 penalties for 145 yards.  There weren't just a lot of penalties, but some poorly timed ones.  A roughing the punter penalty on fourth and 13 kept the drive alive that led to the Brandon Fox touchdown reception.  The Wolverines picked up two penalties that changed a two-point conversion from a reasonable chance (remember they gained 6.2 yards per carry) into a long shot.

* Big plays in big spots by the Aggies: Wesley helped Del Val's cause by making mistakes, but the Aggies made some huge plays down the stretch - Isgro's touchdown scramble on fourth down to get on the board, Dan Heiland making several big catches, Fox's ricochet touchdown reception.  Del Val scored on its last four drives and went four for four on fourth down in the second half.

It's a fantastic win for Del Val.  Fortunately they have a little time to enjoy it.

But Salisbury will be just as hard.  They are out gaining opponents 380 to 38 yards per game on the ground and are 2-0 with wins over teams that were expected to be pretty good (Albright, Geneva).

Excellent analysis. Only thing I would add would be the tremendous job that the Aggies did of keeping people in front of them and not giving up the big play. Their defense and special teams never gave up the home run. They kept people in front of them and made the Wolverines score on long drives.

They'll have to do the same thing against the Gulls next week. If you can make them play on a long field, they'll have a chance to force some turnovers.

D3FBFan55

If the Aggies beat Salisbury (who is ranked), they have to break into the top 20 in the country. 

PBR...

absolutely good point conrad. and IF (a big if) were dvc to pull off the win this week they should be in d3's top 15 if not top 10.... to beat the #3 and #8 teams in consecutive weeks would be  absolutely deserving of some serious ranking in the d3 polls. Going to be very tough emotionally to get up 2 weeks in a row and make no mistake salisbury is a very good team and will come ready to play

Matt Levy, DVC SID

UPBR

Don't forget that Delaware Valley has the bye week this Saturday. We host Salisbury on the 27th.

Gordon's play-by-play call of the game-winning touchdown is now on our website.

PBR...

Quote from: Matt Levy, DVC SID on September 15, 2008, 03:51:40 PM
UPBR

Don't forget that Delaware Valley has the bye week this Saturday. We host Salisbury on the 27th.

Gordon's play-by-play call of the game-winning touchdown is now on our website.

matt, well done on the website it is sooooo much better and easier to navigate. really looks sharp and well thought out.

EDIT: forgot about the bye week....good call

PA_wesleyfan

Quote from: Conrad on September 15, 2008, 02:51:10 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on September 14, 2008, 05:22:48 PM
I don't have any insight on Wesley's QB switch during the second half.  

To be honest, Wesley didn't have much trouble moving the ball on the Aggies.  Pennewell and Jackson combined for 246 yards on 40 carries, which is 6.2 yards per pop.  The Wolverines outgained Del Val 343-282.  If you take away the two drives ended by the halves, Wesley scored on four of eight drives.

I think the more important factors in the Aggies upset win were:

* Turnovers:  Del Val played a very clean game and didn't give the ball away.  Wesley fumbled the ball twice in their own territory to start the third quarter.  Not only did that stop two Wesley drives, it led to 10 Del Val points and gave the Aggies the chance to win late.  If the Wolverines score on the first drive of the second half and fumble in the fourth quarter, maybe the turnovers don't effect the momentum as much.

* Penalties:  Wesley finished with 16 penalties for 145 yards.  There weren't just a lot of penalties, but some poorly timed ones.  A roughing the punter penalty on fourth and 13 kept the drive alive that led to the Brandon Fox touchdown reception.  The Wolverines picked up two penalties that changed a two-point conversion from a reasonable chance (remember they gained 6.2 yards per carry) into a long shot.

* Big plays in big spots by the Aggies: Wesley helped Del Val's cause by making mistakes, but the Aggies made some huge plays down the stretch - Isgro's touchdown scramble on fourth down to get on the board, Dan Heiland making several big catches, Fox's ricochet touchdown reception.  Del Val scored on its last four drives and went four for four on fourth down in the second half.

It's a fantastic win for Del Val.  Fortunately they have a little time to enjoy it.

But Salisbury will be just as hard.  They are out gaining opponents 380 to 38 yards per game on the ground and are 2-0 with wins over teams that were expected to be pretty good (Albright, Geneva).

Excellent analysis. Only thing I would add would be the tremendous job that the Aggies did of keeping people in front of them and not giving up the big play. Their defense and special teams never gave up the home run. They kept people in front of them and made the Wolverines score on long drives.

They'll have to do the same thing against the Gulls next week. If you can make them play on a long field, they'll have a chance to force some turnovers.
Quote from: Conrad on September 15, 2008, 02:51:10 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on September 14, 2008, 05:22:48 PM
I don't have any insight on Wesley's QB switch during the second half.  

To be honest, Wesley didn't have much trouble moving the ball on the Aggies.  Pennewell and Jackson combined for 246 yards on 40 carries, which is 6.2 yards per pop.  The Wolverines outgained Del Val 343-282.  If you take away the two drives ended by the halves, Wesley scored on four of eight drives.

I think the more important factors in the Aggies upset win were:

* Turnovers:  Del Val played a very clean game and didn't give the ball away.  Wesley fumbled the ball twice in their own territory to start the third quarter.  Not only did that stop two Wesley drives, it led to 10 Del Val points and gave the Aggies the chance to win late.  If the Wolverines score on the first drive of the second half and fumble in the fourth quarter, maybe the turnovers don't effect the momentum as much.

* Penalties:  Wesley finished with 16 penalties for 145 yards.  There weren't just a lot of penalties, but some poorly timed ones.  A roughing the punter penalty on fourth and 13 kept the drive alive that led to the Brandon Fox touchdown reception.  The Wolverines picked up two penalties that changed a two-point conversion from a reasonable chance (remember they gained 6.2 yards per carry) into a long shot.

* Big plays in big spots by the Aggies: Wesley helped Del Val's cause by making mistakes, but the Aggies made some huge plays down the stretch - Isgro's touchdown scramble on fourth down to get on the board, Dan Heiland making several big catches, Fox's ricochet touchdown reception.  Del Val scored on its last four drives and went four for four on fourth down in the second half.

It's a fantastic win for Del Val.  Fortunately they have a little time to enjoy it.

But Salisbury will be just as hard.  They are out gaining opponents 380 to 38 yards per game on the ground and are 2-0 with wins over teams that were expected to be pretty good (Albright, Geneva).

Excellent analysis. Only thing I would add would be the tremendous job that the Aggies did of keeping people in front of them and not giving up the big play. Their defense and special teams never gave up the home run. They kept people in front of them and made the Wolverines score on long drives.

They'll have to do the same thing against the Gulls next week. If you can make them play on a long field, they'll have a chance to force some turnovers.

I agree with Conrad,Del Val  appeared to mush rush at times waiting to see where the ball was and then attacking. I don't know if that will work against Salisbury's option but with two weeks to prepare the Aggies could make the necessary adjustments.
Del Val's kick off team did an excellent job of containing Beavers. I don't remember many times I have seen that many people around the ball that quickly
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