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DuffMan

Quote from: Baldini on September 16, 2021, 11:26:43 AM
Don't understand why MLC would schedule that game, hope they are getting a nice payday to travel to St. John's.

I'm assuming there is a decent payday for MLC as well as a chance to see where you stack up and play in a premier D3 environment.  Also, it's an easy (i.e. cheap) away game. 

From SJU's perspective, I'm sure it was scheduled with the hopes that MLC wins the UMAC--it'll bolster SJU's resume in they event they're hunting for a pool C bid.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

Baldini

Quote from: DuffMan on September 17, 2021, 10:10:29 AM
Quote from: Baldini on September 16, 2021, 11:26:43 AM
Don't understand why MLC would schedule that game, hope they are getting a nice payday to travel to St. John's.

I'm assuming there is a decent payday for MLC as well as a chance to see where you stack up and play in a premier D3 environment.  Also, it's an easy (i.e. cheap) away game. 

From SJU's perspective, I'm sure it was scheduled with the hopes that MLC wins the UMAC--it'll bolster SJU's resume in they event they're hunting for a pool C bid.

From the SJU side of it, it makes complete sense to add a potential conference winner who has the very smallest of chances to upset them. From the MLC side the only benefit is a payday, the chance to see where you stack up is coach speak to cover up the schools money grab. MLC is very aware of where they stack up and don't need a complete physical and mental beatdown to find out who they are.

I had read an article a few years ago that MLC was one of the 5 lowest revenue producing athletic departments in all of D3, so taking the money for a game like this one is probably more about survival than anything else. 

Baldini

Westminster saved the day for the UMAC with the only win as they went 1-5 overall.

I admit that I dropped the Westminster - Sewanee game in the 3rd quarter with Westminster up 30-9 to watch another game, but that was a mistake. Sewanee rallied with 20 fourth quarter points and the last few minutes were wild. Sewanee cut the score to 30-29 and went for 2, but fumbled and failed with under 8 minutes to play. Lots of time yet. Sewanee forced a punt on the next drive, but Westminster held also and forced a punt that would start Westminster at their 9 yard line with 2:59 to play. A first down would probably seal a win, but 3 rushes netted 3 yards and a punt attempt was forced with 1:19 to play. The punt was partially blocked and Sewanee took over at the Blue Jays 24. A holding penalty would set Sewanee back 10 yards and with 13 seconds remaining, on 4th down from the 21 yard line Sewanee would try a game winning FG attempt. That FG attempt would sail wide left and Westminster would get their win and start their season 1-0 in exciting fashion 30-29.

Greenville walked into a hornets nest in Adrian, Michigan to face Adrian on their Homecoming Day and could never get over the early hole they were in. Adrian jump to a 14-0 1st quarter lead and 28-14 halftime lead and Greenville was playing up hill all day. Greenville would end up losing this one 41-28, but I still believe they are the team to beat in the UMAC regardless of this outcome.

Minnesota-Morris continues to play hard and make strides as a program. Despite being on the wrong end of a 18-0 halftime score against Hamline, they would battle to put up 28 second half points. They would fall short in the end and drop this one 30-28.

Crown took their lumps against Carleton to the tune of 51-0. Crown started the game by recovering an onside kick and driving to Carleton's 5 yard line, but with 1st and goal from the 5, Crown would make 4 failed attempts to score and turn it over on downs. All down hill after that.

Martin Luther also took a butt whoopin from St. John's with a final score of 55-7. MLC's only points came on a pick 6 by Ben Arndt in the 2nd quarter. The MLC offense was handed some chances in the red zone, but could do nothing with them. MLC had 88 yards rushing from 46 carries, St. John's had 554 yards in total offense to MLC's 161. I listened to this game while watching the Greenville game on Youtube. It was interesting that at the end of the game that the play by play guy for St. John's thought they would take a knee and let the clock run out with under 40 seconds to play or maybe give the RB one more carry, but the announcer seemed to throwup in this mouth a little bit when the Johnnies threw for the endzone for another score. MLC took the money for  taking a beatdown so what is the difference between 55-7 or 48-7, but still a short penis kind of move on the part of the St. John's coach.

Northwestern was the final game of the day and the third blowout victim for the UMAC as Wisconsin-River Falls would win by the final score of 71-13. Northwestern travels to Hope to conclude their non conference schedule that included Wheaton, Buena Vista, Wisconsin-River Falls along with Hope. It will be interesting to see if this helps or hurts them come time for conference play. Can being totally beatdown 4 weeks in a row be a positive? We will see. 

DuffMan

Quote from: Baldini on September 19, 2021, 02:24:17 PM
...but still a short penis kind of move on the part of the St. John's coach.

You can probably pin that on the 3rd or 4th string QB wanting to throw a TD pass rather than call out a well-respected coach.  Do you honestly think that, in that situation, a coach made that call?

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

jamtod

Quote from: DuffMan on September 20, 2021, 09:24:41 AM
Quote from: Baldini on September 19, 2021, 02:24:17 PM
...but still a short penis kind of move on the part of the St. John's coach.

You can probably pin that on the 3rd or 4th string QB wanting to throw a TD pass rather than call out a well-respected coach.  Do you honestly think that, in that situation, a coach made that call?

I can't say I don't find this defense amusing, considering the historical context. If the 3rd or 4th string QB went rogue and against the coach's wishes, that still falls back on the coaching staff.

Baldini

Quote from: DuffMan on September 20, 2021, 09:24:41 AM
Quote from: Baldini on September 19, 2021, 02:24:17 PM
...but still a short penis kind of move on the part of the St. John's coach.

You can probably pin that on the 3rd or 4th string QB wanting to throw a TD pass rather than call out a well-respected coach.  Do you honestly think that, in that situation, a coach made that call?

That's a ridiculous take to suggest that a 3rd or 4th string QB isn't running the play sent in by the coach. It is 100% on the coach.

DuffMan

Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 10:25:38 AM
That's a ridiculous take to suggest that a 3rd or 4th string QB isn't running the play sent in by the coach.


Is it, though?

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

hazzben

Quote from: DuffMan on September 20, 2021, 10:37:37 AM
Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 10:25:38 AM
That's a ridiculous take to suggest that a 3rd or 4th string QB isn't running the play sent in by the coach.


Is it, though?

Duff knows better than, but historically SJU QB's have been given huge latitude in calling plays in the huddle and also calling audibles. So it's not unreal to think/suggest this was player driven. But if it wasn't, shrug ... it's college football. Work on stopping the 4th string QB from being able to go deep. When young guys get on the field, they want to show their stuff. It's maybe one of the few times that guy gets a game rep all season.

Regardless, the juvenile rip you made, based on nothing more than assumptions, was total garbage.

Baldini

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Quote from: hazzben on September 20, 2021, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on September 20, 2021, 10:37:37 AM
Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 10:25:38 AM
That's a ridiculous take to suggest that a 3rd or 4th string QB isn't running the play sent in by the coach.


Is it, though?

Duff knows better than, but historically SJU QB's have been given huge latitude in calling plays in the huddle and also calling audibles. So it's not unreal to think/suggest this was player driven. But if it wasn't, shrug ... it's college football. Work on stopping the 4th string QB from being able to go deep. When young guys get on the field, they want to show their stuff. It's maybe one of the few times that guy gets a game rep all season.

Regardless, the juvenile rip you made, based on nothing more than assumptions, was total garbage.

Don't doubt the audible stuff and agree about the players on the field are there to make something happen, but that is where the coach steps in. The only thing that is total garbage is the play and the attempt of people defending it. Everything goes through the coach and it is 100% on him. 

repete

Hmm, respected posters Duff and Hazz are "garbage" and Gary Fasching makes "small penis moves" ... I can only surmise the roiling tension of Crown-Morris Week in the UMAC is getting to Baldini. Who can blame him?

Baldini

Quote from: repete on September 20, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Hmm, respected posters Duff and Hazz are "garbage" and Gary Fasching makes "small penis moves" ... I can only surmise the roiling tension of Crown-Morris Week in the UMAC is getting to Baldini. Who can blame him?

Here's a shocker, another Johnnie coming out of the woodwork to defend their classless act. 

repete

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Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: repete on September 20, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Hmm, respected posters Duff and Hazz are "garbage" and Gary Fasching makes "small penis moves" ... I can only surmise the roiling tension of Crown-Morris Week in the UMAC is getting to Baldini. Who can blame him?

Here's a shocker, another Johnnie coming out of the woodwork to defend their classless act.

Reading comprehension is a bit lacking there, Baldini. Where did I defend the "classlest act"?

The only "classless act" I called out was your juvenile name-calling.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: repete on September 20, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Hmm, respected posters Duff and Hazz are "garbage" and Gary Fasching makes "small penis moves" ... I can only surmise the roiling tension of Crown-Morris Week in the UMAC is getting to Baldini. Who can blame him?

Here's a shocker, another Johnnie coming out of the woodwork to defend their classless act.

I see someone has already mentioned that SJU quarterbacks have traditionally been given latitude to call plays at the LOS. Maybe your rhetoric is a touch over the top for a Week 3 game.
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Baldini

Quote from: repete on September 20, 2021, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: repete on September 20, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Hmm, respected posters Duff and Hazz are "garbage" and Gary Fasching makes "small penis moves" ... I can only surmise the roiling tension of Crown-Morris Week in the UMAC is getting to Baldini. Who can blame him?

Here's a shocker, another Johnnie coming out of the woodwork to defend their classless act.

Reading comprehension is a bit lacking there, Baldini. Where did I defend the "classlest act"?

The only "classless act" I called out was your juvenile name-calling.

In your haste to spin the narrative away from the original point and make it about something else, you may want to check your reading comprehension. If you are going to quote something at the least quote what was written. But who has time for that when defending honor.

Baldini

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2021, 03:05:44 PM
Quote from: Baldini on September 20, 2021, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: repete on September 20, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Hmm, respected posters Duff and Hazz are "garbage" and Gary Fasching makes "small penis moves" ... I can only surmise the roiling tension of Crown-Morris Week in the UMAC is getting to Baldini. Who can blame him?

Here's a shocker, another Johnnie coming out of the woodwork to defend their classless act.

I see someone has already mentioned that SJU quarterbacks have traditionally been given latitude to call plays at the LOS. Maybe your rhetoric is a touch over the top for a Week 3 game.

That is fair enough, but the coach is still 100% accountable for what happens play wise on the field. I thought I presented the situation as not being that big of deal, but some certainly seem to have an issue with anything negative pointed out about St. John's.