FB: Conference of New England

[DanPadavona]

Just like the Massey ratings, though, this is skewed because you only play among yourselves. Salve gets a boost because it actually DID go out and seek tough competition, though, and deserves some recognition for that.

Right.  The SOS calculation is simplistic and has no way to intrinsically seek linkages on a national basis.  An iterative computer rating function can attempt to create linkages. Endicott played Salve Regina, Salve played Montclair, Montclair will play Kean, Kean played Wesley, Wesley played East Texas Baptist. In theory you can compare Endicott to East Texas Baptist through such a function.

The problem is iterative rating functions don't work so well in D3, or at least they don't work as well as they do in the D1/BCS. First, there are more teams in D3 to run comparisons on. Second, and most important, the much larger budgets of D1/BCS allow Syracuse to play USC, and Boise State to play VA Tech for instance. It isn't likely you will see too many games between Redlands and SUNY Maritime. The lack of meaningful regional cross-over games greatly robs the iterative function of the data it needs.

More NEFC fans need to follow D3 on a national basis. Suggesting Salve has the 6th strongest schedule in D3 lacks perspective. The WIAC, top-to-bottom, is traditionally the strongest conference. I don't think there is much of a chance that any NEFC could hope to win more than 1 or 2 games per season in the WIAC. It's a whole other level of football. Watch some games online and see if you don't agree.

[fulbakdad]

While my only connection to the NEFC is a couple teams that were talking to my son the last couple years, I will say this.  Congrats to Salve Regina in a respectable year and taking the chance of taking the ship out of the harbor!  This is the only way your teams will be able to get any respect.  That or going into the d3's and winning a couple games after the opening round.

Teams like Endicott or WNEC can feel great about their seasons and pat each other on the back.  But if you want anyone to look you in the face and show any concern will be to try and do the same.

[Charles]

While my only connection to the NEFC is a couple teams that were talking to my son the last couple years, I will say this.  Congrats to Salve Regina in a respectable year and taking the chance of taking the ship out of the harbor!  This is the only way your teams will be able to get any respect.  That or going into the d3's and winning a couple games after the opening round.

Teams like Endicott or WNEC can feel great about their seasons and pat each other on the back.  But if you want anyone to look you in the face and show any concern will be to try and do the same.

Salve was beat by both Endicott and WNEC, they sure could have used your son at fullback. Guessing that Michigan was the better choice, congrats.

[fulbakdad]

Michigan?

He's in Ill., close but not Michigan.

Not sure if that was a jab or not.  But he's doing pretty good where he's at.  I'm sure he would have helped Salve if he went there. 

[lewdogg11]

Michigan?

He's in Ill., close but not Michigan.

Not sure if that was a jab or not.  But he's doing pretty good where he's at.  I'm sure he would have helped Salve if he went there.

It was a jab.  Charles is a sour dude.

[Charles]

Michigan?

He's in Ill., close but not Michigan.

Not sure if that was a jab or not.  But he's doing pretty good where he's at.  I'm sure he would have helped Salve if he went there.

It was a jab.  Charles is a sour dude.

Sour dude? You are funny "lewdogg"!

[fulbakdad]

I just looked at his older posts.  I would agree about the sourness.....

He jabbed me one other time too and I didn't even notice it.  Ouch, please stop.

There is a definate difference in the play from league to league.  NEFC is not up the the Empire 8 or Liberty League.  I've watched games during the last two years from the following schools, Springfield, Hobart, Salve, Endicott, Curry, Ithaca, and numerous games now from the MWC.  Sorry, but there is a definate difference.  Springfield, Hobart and Ithaca would beat Endicott IMHO pretty handily.  After going on recruiting trips to all those schools, I would have to say the the NEFC teams are at a serious disadvantage due to facilities and support from the school.  Endicott shared one field for practice with both mens and womans soccor and at times had to practice until 10pm at night under the lights.  That or 6am practices as I remember.  Salve used a high school field 5 miles away from the school.  I'm sure that turned away many recruits.  The lifting gyms were very limited in size and equipment at both schools.  Ever see Springfields facilities?

[lewdogg11]

I just looked at his older posts.  I would agree about the sourness.....

He jabbed me one other time too and I didn't even notice it.  Ouch, please stop.

There is a definate difference in the play from league to league.  NEFC is not up the the Empire 8 or Liberty League.  I've watched games during the last two years from the following schools, Springfield, Hobart, Salve, Endicott, Curry, Ithaca, and numerous games now from the MWC.  Sorry, but there is a definate difference.  Springfield, Hobart and Ithaca would beat Endicott IMHO pretty handily.  After going on recruiting trips to all those schools, I would have to say the the NEFC teams are at a serious disadvantage due to facilities and support from the school.  Endicott shared one field for practice with both mens and womans soccor and at times had to practice until 10pm at night under the lights.  That or 6am practices as I remember.  Salve used a high school field 5 miles away from the school.  I'm sure that turned away many recruits.  The lifting gyms were very limited in size and equipment at both schools.  Ever see Springfields facilities?

Springfield's weight room

[fulbakdad]

that actually looks like Endicott's did when we went!
lol

[Upstate]

that actually looks like Endicott's did when we went!
lol

That's how St. John Fishers looked in the mid to late 90's before they got the Bills to come there...

[Charles]

that actually looks like Endicott's did when we went!
lol

Sounds like you're son made the best choice for him both academically and athletically.

[fulbakdad]

Was that another jab?

I doubt you want to compare either right now.

lol

[lewdogg11]

Was that another jab?

I doubt you want to compare either right now.

lol

Seriously, because Endicott is an academic juggernaut.

[fulbakdad]

Well Lew......

Let's not go there unless he pushes the subject.....

[zach]

Any reason that the championship game is at noon instead of a night game?  A 7 o'clock start would draw a much larger crowd than a noon start when most college students are still asleep. Even a nice 4:00 start would allow for some pre-gaming before the game.