FB: Conference of New England

[warrior]

golden foot, if you read sullies past comment, it sound like he has done more than just step foot on thr Fram campus.   Sully is right on the mark with his comment,  I heard it form more than one very reliable source.  so take this for what its worth

[warrior]

golden foot, i know this is a football site, but i did research also and YOU need to get your facts straight also.  baseball last 10 years dating back t0 1995 records
17-16, 23-12, 23-12, 17-13, 17-14 those look like winning seasons to me!  sull knows the facts   now back to football

[ktroutvon]

  I have to agree with Johnny Utah's request to the Guru. 

  Otherwise, I am going to come up with 15 codenames and hype Hobart all over the message boards.

[SullyMustGo]

Thanks warrior... Anyway I'll have my picks for the week a little later.

[Pat Coleman]

Johnny, ktrout, it passed immediate inspection. I continue to monitor for future evidence.

[SullyMustGo]

Worcester 17  Maine Maritime 28

Fitchburg 47   Mass Maritime 7

WNEC 14    UMass Dartmouth 13

Salve Regina 14  Bridgewater 31

Westfield 38  Framingham 14

Endicott 24  Curry 21

Nichols  20  MIT 24

[skylineguru]

Gentleman:

Thanks for indirectly helping me make my case.  I stated Framingham is always going to struggle until they get better athletes.  They are always going to have an uphill battle because they don't have majors that attract athletic males.   Without knowing (nor my original intent) you have proved the mentality of the typical Framingham State male athlete.  To say that baseball is "pretty decent" is accepting mediocrity.  Six losing seasons in seven years and a .391 winning percentage is mediocre at best.  I am making an assumption that you enjoyed the baseball program better then the football program and that is well within your right.  But to say things are "pretty decent" then perhaps that mentality is best suited for intramural participation.

I know we are comparing apples and oranges here and this is football site, but people have opened the door by speaking about the success of Framingham State baseball.    Please concede that fact that a .391 winning percentage over the past seven seasons is nothing to hang your hat on.  Feel free to attach a word to it.  If you can't come up with one, I'll choose mediocre.

Regardless, let's stop stating the obvious and if you have an attachment to the Framingham State program, let's root for the Rams and focus on the successes of all the programs instead of dishing out blame like it's a piece of grandma's apple pie.

[br7o7wn]

Gldnrghtft, you are way out of line! You dragged up an argument about FSC Baseball on a football site. Then you take time to belittle that program as well?? Perhaps you should re-evaluate your presence on this board! Let me ask you this...have you ever poured your heart and soul into a program that just would not improve around you?? Did you commit to a state college that filled you with promises of a state-of-the-art training facility and game field, only to have to train at an off-campus gym and get ready for practices and GAMES in a parking lot!!!! Have you ever done squats until you puked, only to go do another heavier, more intense set afterward...and then see all that focus, energy, and effort flushed down the drain when your coach calls 4 straight incomplete pass plays while having 1st and goal from the 2 yd line and turning the ball over on downs??? I have experienced all those things and many more frustrations while being a  3 year starter at Framingham State College. Now, don't take me for your average NEFC athlete who wants to cry a little...I have played a lot of ball, at almost every level, even coached varsity high school for 2 years. All of us former Rams are speaking out about the FSC situation because we have suffered through years of frustration, and even now after our playing years have past we still must watch in frustation as our beloved Rams fall week after week in embarrassing fashion!!! And I'll tell you this, I could do a better job than the Asst AD and the entire coaching staff..there's not a doubt in mind!!! I will note that I have the utmost respect for the AD Tom Kelley, it was refreshing to play for him as a DL position coach my senior year. Unfortunately, he seems to be outnumbered and worn out by the surrounding administration. Regardless, no matter what anyone says...FSC is, was, and probably will continue to be in shambles until new blood enters the program and infuses new energy and better coaching/recruiting/managing! Now one thing I must clearly state, despite everything that has been said about FSC, I truly cheer for those kids every Saturday and my only wish is for them to win...GO RAMS!!!!!!

[Pat Coleman]

Gldnrghtft, you are way out of line! You dragged up an argument about FSC Baseball on a football site.

Actually, Sullymustgo brought it up.

[br7o7wn]

Unfortuantely Pat you are incorrect. Sully mentioned the other FSC programs, that is true...however I don't remember him debating their winning percentages and 10 year records! So, please can we get back to FOOTBALL!!!

[Pat Coleman]

Men's basketball got to the finals last year, women's soccer always wins theur conference, and baseball is always decent.

Emphasis added. But I guess in your world if someone says something, we're not allowed to challenge it with actual facts, so feel free to ignore me.

[SullyMustGo]

I mentioned the other programs to make a point that not all of them fail. I never through meaningless stats from 10 years ago. And yes the baseball can be said to be decent and respectable, I never said they were a powerhouse. Just look at all the Framingham sports. Only men's soccer and football are horrible. Every other sport is atleast competitive.

[Pat Coleman]

I'm sorry. I'll stop. 

Also on this very page I stuck up for you when people suggested that you had created an alter ego to agree with your viewpoint. But I'll stop that as well.

[Pat Coleman]

Also a real gutsy move, editing your post after I had already responded to the part where you accused me of defending everyone who took the opposite view of you.

That isn't even close to true, either.

[SullyMustGo]

I did it because I'm a nice guy and didn't want to start another stupid non-football related argument , and I didn't know you replied to it already.