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dlippiel

Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on July 29, 2009, 08:59:08 AM
On the topic of NEFC teams playing outside of the conference:

I am glad to see that teams are starting to branch out.  A couple of years ago the NEFC was the joke of D III football.  MOST teams would stay in their comfort zones and play teams that they could beat.  Endicott played out of conference games from the start against teams like WPI, RPI, and Hartwick.  It helped them at the time, but as we can all see they've dropped off.

Maybe with the power teams (Curry, Plymouth State) playing OOC games the NEFC can get to another level.

dlippiel feels that Curry has moved on to that next level and has earned a certain amount of respect on an East region level. dlippiel can tell you this, the next NCAA game Curry plays they will definitely be taken seriously by all. Plymoth St still has a way to go but made strides last season. As far as the rest of the NEFC is concerned, the conference needs a few more OOC wins and/or NCAA wins by other teams to go to that next level. dlippiel will say one thing...

LET'S GO ENDICOTT!

Dlipp, dont get carried away.

They beat an Ithaca team without its starting QB and RB and then got smoked by an average Cortland team by 4 TDs......Lets settle down with the respect card.

dlippiel hears ya Utah and agrees to an extent. dlippiel just looks back at how much he hammered the NEFC, specifically Curry, and even more so Wick for losing to Curry in the NCAA's and feels like in some ways he owes Curry a bit of respect. Regarding the Ithaca game dlippiel was still blown away with the Curry Victory at Ithaca. He felt that even with Grastorf (the back up QB) if the bombers were really that much better than the purple people they would have handled that NCAA game at home. Hence Curry earned some respect there. Yet dlippiel does tend to get extreme before he backs off and gets more realistic. This seems to be one of those occasions.

Jonny Utah

Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 09:58:02 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on July 29, 2009, 08:59:08 AM
On the topic of NEFC teams playing outside of the conference:

I am glad to see that teams are starting to branch out.  A couple of years ago the NEFC was the joke of D III football.  MOST teams would stay in their comfort zones and play teams that they could beat.  Endicott played out of conference games from the start against teams like WPI, RPI, and Hartwick.  It helped them at the time, but as we can all see they've dropped off.

Maybe with the power teams (Curry, Plymouth State) playing OOC games the NEFC can get to another level.

dlippiel feels that Curry has moved on to that next level and has earned a certain amount of respect on an East region level. dlippiel can tell you this, the next NCAA game Curry plays they will definitely be taken seriously by all. Plymoth St still has a way to go but made strides last season. As far as the rest of the NEFC is concerned, the conference needs a few more OOC wins and/or NCAA wins by other teams to go to that next level. dlippiel will say one thing...

LET'S GO ENDICOTT!

Dlipp, dont get carried away.

They beat an Ithaca team without its starting QB and RB and then got smoked by an average Cortland team by 4 TDs......Lets settle down with the respect card.

dlippiel hears ya Utah and agrees to an extent. dlippiel just looks back at how much he hammered the NEFC, specifically Curry, and even more so Wick for losing to Curry in the NCAA's and feels like in some ways he owes Curry a bit of respect. Regarding the Ithaca game dlippiel was still blown away with the Curry Victory at Ithaca. He felt that even with Grastorf (the back up QB) if the bombers were really that much better than the purple people they would have handled that NCAA game at home. Hence Curry earned some respect there. Yet dlippiel does tend to get extreme before he backs off and gets more realistic. This seems to be one of those occasions.

Oh Curry is a decent team don't get me wrong.  They have the potential to beat anyone.  Ive seen them a bunch of times and was only suprised they beat Ithaca because of the history, not because of what I saw on the field by Curry.  They are big, physical and athletic.  When they beat Coast Guard for the NEFC championship game 2 years ago you would not believe how much smaller CG was than Curry.  That gave me a small impression that Curry simply wasn't athletic enough to compete with an E8 champ.

I don't want to make that many excuses except I thought Ithaca was twice the team Cortland was the last two years.  I mean, they were the better team in both games.

I say Alfred beats Umass by 17 and Bentley beats Curry by 21.

dlippiel

Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 10:02:49 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 09:58:02 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on July 29, 2009, 08:59:08 AM
On the topic of NEFC teams playing outside of the conference:

I am glad to see that teams are starting to branch out.  A couple of years ago the NEFC was the joke of D III football.  MOST teams would stay in their comfort zones and play teams that they could beat.  Endicott played out of conference games from the start against teams like WPI, RPI, and Hartwick.  It helped them at the time, but as we can all see they've dropped off.

Maybe with the power teams (Curry, Plymouth State) playing OOC games the NEFC can get to another level.

dlippiel feels that Curry has moved on to that next level and has earned a certain amount of respect on an East region level. dlippiel can tell you this, the next NCAA game Curry plays they will definitely be taken seriously by all. Plymoth St still has a way to go but made strides last season. As far as the rest of the NEFC is concerned, the conference needs a few more OOC wins and/or NCAA wins by other teams to go to that next level. dlippiel will say one thing...

LET'S GO ENDICOTT!

Dlipp, dont get carried away.

They beat an Ithaca team without its starting QB and RB and then got smoked by an average Cortland team by 4 TDs......Lets settle down with the respect card.

dlippiel hears ya Utah and agrees to an extent. dlippiel just looks back at how much he hammered the NEFC, specifically Curry, and even more so Wick for losing to Curry in the NCAA's and feels like in some ways he owes Curry a bit of respect. Regarding the Ithaca game dlippiel was still blown away with the Curry Victory at Ithaca. He felt that even with Grastorf (the back up QB) if the bombers were really that much better than the purple people they would have handled that NCAA game at home. Hence Curry earned some respect there. Yet dlippiel does tend to get extreme before he backs off and gets more realistic. This seems to be one of those occasions.

Oh Curry is a decent team don't get me wrong.  They have the potential to beat anyone.  Ive seen them a bunch of times and was only suprised they beat Ithaca because of the history, not because of what I saw on the field by Curry.  They are big, physical and athletic.  When they beat Coast Guard for the NEFC championship game 2 years ago you would not believe how much smaller CG was than Curry.  That gave me a small impression that Curry simply wasn't athletic enough to compete with an E8 champ.

I don't want to make that many excuses except I thought Ithaca was twice the team Cortland was the last two years.  I mean, they were the better team in both games.

I say Alfred beats Umass by 17 and Bentley beats Curry by 21.

It will be interesting to see how the purple show does this season. dlippiel thinks they will need many consistent seasons being competitive and/or winning OOC games and NCAA games to take a big step.....**** since when did dlippiel care so much about Curry? I bleed Garnet not freakin purple. Help me Utah... ;D

dlippiel

Quote from: stimulator on July 30, 2009, 08:24:37 PM
Damn dlippiel...

spreading your pro-Dutchmen sentiments across multiple boards...:D.

I think that daughter of yours will grow up to be an engineer.. any ideas on where she might matriculate? 

Heah stim when you have lost four in a row you've got to take shots where you can get them  ;D! Being realistic dlippiel knows there are few, if any opportunities.

union89

Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 10:02:49 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 09:58:02 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 30, 2009, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on July 30, 2009, 05:24:05 PM
Quote from: InTheMix on July 29, 2009, 08:59:08 AM
On the topic of NEFC teams playing outside of the conference:

I am glad to see that teams are starting to branch out.  A couple of years ago the NEFC was the joke of D III football.  MOST teams would stay in their comfort zones and play teams that they could beat.  Endicott played out of conference games from the start against teams like WPI, RPI, and Hartwick.  It helped them at the time, but as we can all see they've dropped off.

Maybe with the power teams (Curry, Plymouth State) playing OOC games the NEFC can get to another level.

dlippiel feels that Curry has moved on to that next level and has earned a certain amount of respect on an East region level. dlippiel can tell you this, the next NCAA game Curry plays they will definitely be taken seriously by all. Plymoth St still has a way to go but made strides last season. As far as the rest of the NEFC is concerned, the conference needs a few more OOC wins and/or NCAA wins by other teams to go to that next level. dlippiel will say one thing...

LET'S GO ENDICOTT!

Dlipp, dont get carried away.

They beat an Ithaca team without its starting QB and RB and then got smoked by an average Cortland team by 4 TDs......Lets settle down with the respect card.

dlippiel hears ya Utah and agrees to an extent. dlippiel just looks back at how much he hammered the NEFC, specifically Curry, and even more so Wick for losing to Curry in the NCAA's and feels like in some ways he owes Curry a bit of respect. Regarding the Ithaca game dlippiel was still blown away with the Curry Victory at Ithaca. He felt that even with Grastorf (the back up QB) if the bombers were really that much better than the purple people they would have handled that NCAA game at home. Hence Curry earned some respect there. Yet dlippiel does tend to get extreme before he backs off and gets more realistic. This seems to be one of those occasions.

Oh Curry is a decent team don't get me wrong.  They have the potential to beat anyone.  Ive seen them a bunch of times and was only suprised they beat Ithaca because of the history, not because of what I saw on the field by Curry.  They are big, physical and athletic.  When they beat Coast Guard for the NEFC championship game 2 years ago you would not believe how much smaller CG was than Curry.  That gave me a small impression that Curry simply wasn't athletic enough to compete with an E8 champ.

I don't want to make that many excuses except I thought Ithaca was twice the team Cortland was the last two years.  I mean, they were the better team in both games.

I say Alfred beats Umass by 17 and Bentley beats Curry by 21.


Historically, Coast Guard has always been very small.....tons of heart, but very small.....

footballguy32

Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

lewdogg11

Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

pumkinattack

Hobart blitzes early and often in most games (and ususally struggle when they don't) and every time they beat Union, RPI, Ithaca, etc. the refrain is that Hobart was less talented, so talent and the ability to blitz frequently and effectively aren't necessarily related. 

Coach Cragg's been doing it for 15 years.  Far as I'm concerned we haven't blitzed RPI enough. 

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: pumkinattack on August 01, 2009, 10:01:33 AM
Hobart blitzes early and often in most games (and ususally struggle when they don't) and every time they beat Union, RPI, Ithaca, etc. the refrain is that Hobart was less talented, so talent and the ability to blitz frequently and effectively aren't necessarily related. 

Coach Cragg's been doing it for 15 years.  Far as I'm concerned we haven't blitzed RPI enough. 

Kinda hard to get through those 3 inch splits when Blitzing...

dlippiel

Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Curry's record since 2003:

2003 (11-1, 6-0 NEFC Boyd)
2004 (9-2, 5-1 NEFC Boyd)
2005 (9-3, 6-0 NEFC Boyd)
2006 (11-1, 7-0 NEFC Boyd)
2007 (12-1, 7-0 NEFC Boyd)
2008 (10-2, 6-1 NEFC Boyd)

Their record in conference in the last six years is 37-3....it's obvious they haven't been good in conference and the rest of the NEFC is right on their tail ??? I am sure they are in for a huge surprise.


footballguy32

Just wait and see. I think you will be very surprised this year. Hahahahaha.

pumkinattack

If Curry doesn't win the NEFC AQ, then I'm changing the NEFC's odds of winning a playoff game from 15% to .005%.  HA HA HA HA

defenseiskey

Quote from: pumkinattack on August 01, 2009, 09:21:53 PM
If Curry doesn't win the NEFC AQ, then I'm changing the NEFC's odds of winning a playoff game from 15% to .005%.  HA HA HA HA

Come Pumkin you know it is less than that....how bout .001%

The only other team in the NEFC that has a chance of winning a conference game is Plymouth and they have a long way to go. FootballGuy you have to be kidding yourself if you think teams like Salve, CG, Maine, Fitchburg or any of them have a shot at all to win the conference let alone a playoff game and what is Curry unsound in?

footballguy32

They have a defense that is completely unsound, and cortland exposed it if you watched the game. Believe it or not this league is based on recruiting, only a few teams have a coaching staff that would be considered quality.

For Curry they have both. All I'm saying is that, as the few other teams with quality coaching staffs get better recruits they will also expose Curry or at least force them to make some changes.

Reno Hightower

Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 01, 2009, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: footballguy32 on July 31, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.