FB: Conference of New England

[Reno Hightower]

Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?

Oct. 25  1:00 PM  at Plymouth State * •  L, 28-17   

Curry lost this game at PState last year and PState deserves credit for the win no doubt. Yet Curry still sits on top until Pstate or another NEFC team makes a run like Curry has the past six years and/or wins at least one NCAA playoff game (which I don't see happening anytime soon). You just can't **** with a 37-3 record in conference thats all. For that purple drank to have fought through so much doubt from all around D3 football for the past three/four years and then to be questioned as not dominating their own conference is crazy.

Ahh yes, but of course.  Don't mind LD, he is extremely hungover on this fine Monday morning.  Regardless, 1 loss in the Championship game doesn't mean the league has caught up.  From my understanding, Plymouth had a pretty good team last year, but looks to be a one-year wonder.

1 Year Wonder?  I am reading through the past few posts, and to see how many feel that Curry is historically the New England power?  I can remember a time not too long ago when Plymouth State was a dominant FFC member that needed to travel to upstate NY, and NJ for out of conference games because the NEFC squads left much to be desired. 

They did have a few down season earlier this decade, but winning the NEFC last season shouldn't be a surprise.  It was just a matter of time. 

dlippiel hears ya panther pride but no one in that division can **** with  Curry's accomplishments in the past 6-7 years. To say because PState won the title last year they are the new power in the NEFC is simply wrong (not saying you said that). Hence Pstate losing to Cortland last year and Curry beating Ithaca at Ithaca made it clear to dlippiel that Curry is on top and they have not been knocked off yet. Would dlippiel like to see some parity in the NEFC? Absolutely, dlippiel would like to see the NEFC grow in strength and provide the East with more depth. When you look at Curry's record and the fact that they are the only NEFC team to win 1 let alone 2 NCAA games the discussion of them not ruling the NEFC is moot.

Well put, Young Wiseman.....

I see what panther pride is saying though.  Although you can't argue that Plymouth is the best NE team the last 10 years, I wouldn't call them a one year wonder.  They were better than Curry last year.  They beat them and both teams got smoked by an average Cortland team.  (Ok, maybe above average, but I was not impressed with them).

Plymouth St. has the potential to be a top team in the NEFC. 

Definetly agree with you 3 guys. Definetly great to see a program like PSC correct whatever was holding them down for 4 years or whatever it was. Glad they are off the mat and making a name for themselves again. Beating Curry 1 year was a statement.....BUT they have to keep beating Curry AND beat some LL/E8/NJAC teams in OOC games/NCAAs or ECACs to be able to say that they are truly a regional power. They have been there before so it is certainly possible. But still too early to go that far......

My main point is that Plymouth State has only been in the NEFC for a few years.  If you want to talk NEFC history, look no further than the White Mountains....9 out of 10 NEFC titles in the 80's.  When Curry has a run like that we can talk a little more about history.  We are also talking about a program that carried the highest all-time D3 program winning % into 2000 and what became a low in the program to start this decade. 

They will compete year in and year out.....because of that Panther Pride.

This is a big year for Plymouth. They NEED to prove that they can lose players and still win year in and year out. That is what they did in the 80's, parts of the 90's and up until about 2001 I believe? If they can win the NEFC this year they will have gone a long way towards that. But Curry winning it 6 years in a row shows that they are a quality program because they refuel, they dont rebuild. This is the step that Plymouth has to take now.
We all understand your point pantherpride and I think you are seeing that we agree with you BUT you are putting the cart in front of the horse a little bit here. Plymouth still has a lot to prove.

The fact that this is a discussion shows that the program isnt what it once was. Remember when Don Brown was the coach there? Man, domination was the word!

[PantherPr1de]

Curry is a good football team, but the league is catching up and they are not getting better. Despite the NCAA win last season they are not getting better and it is all about the athletes they have. They are unsound in so many things they do because they had a better athlete.

As other teams get better recruiting classes and get the same athlete Curry has, they are going to be in for a big surprise. They no longer will be able to blitz and play man on a every play. It's only a matter of time.

Prove it.

Didnt Plymouth do that?
Manhandled them.

Didn't Curry win the NEFC for the past 6 years?

Oct. 25  1:00 PM  at Plymouth State * •  L, 28-17   

Curry lost this game at PState last year and PState deserves credit for the win no doubt. Yet Curry still sits on top until Pstate or another NEFC team makes a run like Curry has the past six years and/or wins at least one NCAA playoff game (which I don't see happening anytime soon). You just can't **** with a 37-3 record in conference thats all. For that purple drank to have fought through so much doubt from all around D3 football for the past three/four years and then to be questioned as not dominating their own conference is crazy.

Ahh yes, but of course.  Don't mind LD, he is extremely hungover on this fine Monday morning.  Regardless, 1 loss in the Championship game doesn't mean the league has caught up.  From my understanding, Plymouth had a pretty good team last year, but looks to be a one-year wonder.

1 Year Wonder?  I am reading through the past few posts, and to see how many feel that Curry is historically the New England power?  I can remember a time not too long ago when Plymouth State was a dominant FFC member that needed to travel to upstate NY, and NJ for out of conference games because the NEFC squads left much to be desired. 

They did have a few down season earlier this decade, but winning the NEFC last season shouldn't be a surprise.  It was just a matter of time. 

dlippiel hears ya panther pride but no one in that division can **** with  Curry's accomplishments in the past 6-7 years. To say because PState won the title last year they are the new power in the NEFC is simply wrong (not saying you said that). Hence Pstate losing to Cortland last year and Curry beating Ithaca at Ithaca made it clear to dlippiel that Curry is on top and they have not been knocked off yet. Would dlippiel like to see some parity in the NEFC? Absolutely, dlippiel would like to see the NEFC grow in strength and provide the East with more depth. When you look at Curry's record and the fact that they are the only NEFC team to win 1 let alone 2 NCAA games the discussion of them not ruling the NEFC is moot.

Well put, Young Wiseman.....

I see what panther pride is saying though.  Although you can't argue that Plymouth is the best NE team the last 10 years, I wouldn't call them a one year wonder.  They were better than Curry last year.  They beat them and both teams got smoked by an average Cortland team.  (Ok, maybe above average, but I was not impressed with them).

Plymouth St. has the potential to be a top team in the NEFC. 

Definetly agree with you 3 guys. Definetly great to see a program like PSC correct whatever was holding them down for 4 years or whatever it was. Glad they are off the mat and making a name for themselves again. Beating Curry 1 year was a statement.....BUT they have to keep beating Curry AND beat some LL/E8/NJAC teams in OOC games/NCAAs or ECACs to be able to say that they are truly a regional power. They have been there before so it is certainly possible. But still too early to go that far......

My main point is that Plymouth State has only been in the NEFC for a few years.  If you want to talk NEFC history, look no further than the White Mountains....9 out of 10 NEFC titles in the 80's.  When Curry has a run like that we can talk a little more about history.  We are also talking about a program that carried the highest all-time D3 program winning % into 2000 and what became a low in the program to start this decade. 

They will compete year in and year out.....because of that Panther Pride.

This is a big year for Plymouth. They NEED to prove that they can lose players and still win year in and year out. That is what they did in the 80's, parts of the 90's and up until about 2001 I believe? If they can win the NEFC this year they will have gone a long way towards that. But Curry winning it 6 years in a row shows that they are a quality program because they refuel, they dont rebuild. This is the step that Plymouth has to take now.
We all understand your point pantherpride and I think you are seeing that we agree with you BUT you are putting the cart in front of the horse a little bit here. Plymouth still has a lot to prove.

The fact that this is a discussion shows that the program isnt what it once was. Remember when Don Brown was the coach there? Man, domination was the word!

I understand there is work to do.  It is hard not to take into consideration the way we were playing when I was there in the mid to late 90's.  Don Brown was the man, and now that he is Maryland's D- Coordinator, we know we had something special going on up there.  When Curry rolls into Bentley on their homecoming while Bently is the cream of the crop in The NE 10, as we did in '99 I'd be impressed.

This should be another interesting season all across D3.  It can't come soon enough.

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   panther pride is no match for that purple drank!    


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[maxpower]

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sip sip sip!

grimace looks chopped and screwed....

[Boxer7806]

as much as the NEFC has enjoyed some sort of success the past couple of years with Curry's 2 wins and the conference getting two playoff teams last year, my opinion is the conference will come back to earth. Most teams that will be contenders for the automatic bid have suffered huge losses at critical positions.

Curry QB, WR
Plymouth QB,WR, DLine
Bridgewater RB, Secondary
Westfield LB, QB, WR

the only team with extensive experience returning at all critical positions and most starters from last year is the Bogan champ Maine Maritime... I feel like they are the team to beat on that side and could very well win the division... remember just a few years ago they beat Curry... the only problem is Maine does not have the size to match up with any of the LL or E8 teams in terms of size up front to win...

This is why Curry is still our best chance at post season success even without Van Geisen... they have the majority of the D and most of thier O line returning which should give them enough talent to win the NEFC... unfortunately Van Giesen will be to much to make up come playoff time

[Findtheball]

as much as the NEFC has enjoyed some sort of success the past couple of years with Curry's 2 wins and the conference getting two playoff teams last year, my opinion is the conference will come back to earth. Most teams that will be contenders for the automatic bid have suffered huge losses at critical positions.

Curry QB, WR
Plymouth QB,WR, DLine
Bridgewater RB, Secondary
Westfield LB, QB, WR

the only team with extensive experience returning at all critical positions and most starters from last year is the Bogan champ Maine Maritime... I feel like they are the team to beat on that side and could very well win the division... remember just a few years ago they beat Curry... the only problem is Maine does not have the size to match up with any of the LL or E8 teams in terms of size up front to win...

This is why Curry is still our best chance at post season success even without Van Geisen... they have the majority of the D and most of thier O line returning which should give them enough talent to win the NEFC... unfortunately Van Giesen will be to much to make up come playoff time

Boxer ,
how many games did you actually see PSU play last year? You are starting to give me running belly

[Boxer7806]

NLNG,

is there something on my post you disagree with. I'm positive they lost thier starting QB and RB and some depth along the DLINE. Most of the players were 3-4 year starters. That will not be easy to replace. I saw Plymouth play twice last year and one was the Maine Maritime beating.

Plymouth has a two very good years in the NEFC, but this is the first time they will have to replace many key parts... remember this is just a pre season discussion... by week 5 all could change

[Findtheball]

NLNG,

is there something on my post you disagree with. I'm positive they lost thier starting QB and RB and some depth along the DLINE. Most of the players were 3-4 year starters. That will not be easy to replace. I saw Plymouth play twice last year and one was the Maine Maritime beating.

Plymouth has a two very good years in the NEFC, but this is the first time they will have to replace many key parts... remember this is just a pre season discussion... by week 5 all could change

I'm curious what the other game were you at ? I just get annoyed when you can talk about them and really don't know whats going on . Yes we did lose a key running back ,yes we did lose a key QB, and yes we lost some key D-line members ,but we did have quality kids to step up in these positions . If you've been watching or reading about this team than you'd know that. My boy played that D-line last year so I know what I'm talking about. Watch a few more games and then comment

                                              'Nuff said"

[pumkinattack]

Boxer's post seemed more valuable and informed than your spew.  In fact, don't you feel like a hypocrite after the garbage you smoked about the playoffs last year.  But yeah, Plymouth State is so loaded that they're minus 7 to Mt Union. 

Seeing a team twice in DIII makes on credible enough to speak and his comments were modest and informed.  If the players with numerous year starters, then the only time you would have seen the backup was in garbage time, which doesn't mean much. 

Plymouth State, first round route and out...Curry first round win over Ithaca (who trampled Cortland in the last regular season game of the year)

Nuff Said

[AUPepBand]

+K pa

[dlippiel]

dlippiel will second the +k to pa. dlippiel will encourage all to post on here sharing their thoughts on any team and contributing to discussions  in a positive manner. dlippiel feels one does not have to "...watch a few more games," before they comment on a team. Boxer keep posting and doing your thing on here. Don't be discouraged by BS posts from those who try to intimidate others by trying to make them feel like they are not knowledgeable enough to post. NLNG are we going to have a repeat of last years posts where you are just being a dick? Come on man be ****ing normal.

[Findtheball]

dlippiel will second the +k to pa. dlippiel will encourage all to post on here sharing their thoughts on any team and contributing to discussions  in a positive manner. dlippiel feels one does not have to "...watch a few more games," before they comment on a team. Boxer keep posting and doing your thing on here. Don't be discouraged by BS posts from those who try to intimidate others by trying to make them feel like they are not knowledgeable enough to post. NLNG are we going to have a repeat of last years posts where you are just being a dick? Come on man be ****ing normal.

and your ####ing normal !!!! Man who speaks in 3rd person , kiss mine!

[lewdogg11]

dlippiel will second the +k to pa. dlippiel will encourage all to post on here sharing their thoughts on any team and contributing to discussions  in a positive manner. dlippiel feels one does not have to "...watch a few more games," before they comment on a team. Boxer keep posting and doing your thing on here. Don't be discouraged by BS posts from those who try to intimidate others by trying to make them feel like they are not knowledgeable enough to post. NLNG are we going to have a repeat of last years posts where you are just being a dick? Come on man be ****ing normal.

and your ####ing normal !!!! Man who speaks in 3rd person , kiss mine!

NLNG - "NUFF SAID"

[dlippiel]

dlippiel will second the +k to pa. dlippiel will encourage all to post on here sharing their thoughts on any team and contributing to discussions  in a positive manner. dlippiel feels one does not have to "...watch a few more games," before they comment on a team. Boxer keep posting and doing your thing on here. Don't be discouraged by BS posts from those who try to intimidate others by trying to make them feel like they are not knowledgeable enough to post. NLNG are we going to have a repeat of last years posts where you are just being a dick? Come on man be ****ing normal.

and your ####ing normal !!!! Man who speaks in 3rd person , kiss mine!

People on D3 that speak in the third person =

NLNG = 

[defenseiskey]

NLNG,

is there something on my post you disagree with. I'm positive they lost thier starting QB and RB and some depth along the DLINE. Most of the players were 3-4 year starters. That will not be easy to replace. I saw Plymouth play twice last year and one was the Maine Maritime beating.

Plymouth has a two very good years in the NEFC, but this is the first time they will have to replace many key parts... remember this is just a pre season discussion... by week 5 all could change

I'm curious what the other game were you at ? I just get annoyed when you can talk about them and really don't know whats going on . Yes we did lose a key running back ,yes we did lose a key QB, and yes we lost some key D-line members ,but we did have quality kids to step up in these positions . If you've been watching or reading about this team than you'd know that. My boy played that D-line last year so I know what I'm talking about. Watch a few more games and then comment

                                              'Nuff said"

Just cause your boy played doesn't mean you know what you are talking about. there are thousands of football fans that don't know their a** from their elbow