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lewdogg11

Quote from: AUKaz00 on September 29, 2009, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on September 29, 2009, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 28, 2009, 09:01:24 AM
made a mistake in my previous statement. Game of the Week is clearly Salve and Curry. Curry is vulnerable . I still think Curry wins.


Boxer who is YOUR home team ?

I'm pretty sure he's a Hartwick guy, but I could be wrong.

Brockton High

Findtheball

Quote from: Dr. Lew Von Doggenstein on September 29, 2009, 01:44:31 PM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on September 29, 2009, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: nolinenoglory on September 29, 2009, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 28, 2009, 09:01:24 AM
made a mistake in my previous statement. Game of the Week is clearly Salve and Curry. Curry is vulnerable . I still think Curry wins.


Boxer who is YOUR home team ?

I'm pretty sure he's a Hartwick guy, but I could be wrong.

Brockton High
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for the love of the game

jkelly24

hey nlng!!
how about EVERETT HIGH?!?!?!

CB23

PantherPr1de

Does anyone else wonder how they can determine the weekly New England D3 poll when the NESCAC teams like Trinity, Williams, etc. just pay themselves?

Another question, how would the NESCAC teams fair against Plymouth State, Curry, Springfield, West Conn State, etc.?  They need to atleast let the NESCAC winner play in the dance.

Boxer7806

NLNG

My team affiliation is Bridgewater, saying that I try to keep an objective mind as possible to all the other teams in the conference. For the first time I picked against Bridgewater last week and they beat Maine 40-14. Just goes to show you how much i respected Maine after the run they had last year.

In terms of the Nescac, the overall quality of football in that conference is much higher then the football played in the NEFC. If a middle of the pack NESCAC team joined our leauge, say a Bowdoin or Colby Sawyer, I think they would immediately challenge for the championship similar to Plymouth State's and CGA's arrival in the conference a few years ago. CGA was a perrenial bottom dweller in the Liberty Leauge before they arrived, first two years in the conference they played in the NEFC championship game and gave Curry all they could handle each time.

In terms of playing Springfield, West Conn, or even WPI the games would be much closer. I think if West Conn or WPI would join the NESCAC they would be n the bottom half of the conference. A team like Springfield would fare better depending on the year, but mostly be a middle of the pack team. Just my opinion though.

PantherPr1de

Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 30, 2009, 08:40:05 AM
NLNG

My team affiliation is Bridgewater, saying that I try to keep an objective mind as possible to all the other teams in the conference. For the first time I picked against Bridgewater last week and they beat Maine 40-14. Just goes to show you how much i respected Maine after the run they had last year.

In terms of the Nescac, the overall quality of football in that conference is much higher then the football played in the NEFC. If a middle of the pack NESCAC team joined our leauge, say a Bowdoin or Colby Sawyer, I think they would immediately challenge for the championship similar to Plymouth State's and CGA's arrival in the conference a few years ago. CGA was a perrenial bottom dweller in the Liberty Leauge before they arrived, first two years in the conference they played in the NEFC championship game and gave Curry all they could handle each time.

In terms of playing Springfield, West Conn, or even WPI the games would be much closer. I think if West Conn or WPI would join the NESCAC they would be n the bottom half of the conference. A team like Springfield would fare better depending on the year, but mostly be a middle of the pack team. Just my opinion though.

I don't understand how you can make that assumption when they play no one but themselves.  That's what I am trying to get at with the New England poll. 

dlippiel

QuoteDoes anyone else wonder how they can determine the weekly New England D3 poll when the NESCAC teams like Trinity, Williams, etc. just pay themselves?

Another question, how would the NESCAC teams fair against Plymouth State, Curry, Springfield, West Conn State, etc.?  They need to atleast let the NESCAC winner play in the dance.

dlip feels the NESCAC can have their tea and crupits and play in the ****in nose-up corner all they want. When one league chooses to isolate themselves from the rest of the NCAA they deserve ZERO attention regarding any polls period. Very simple  in dlip's mind ;)

Findtheball

Quote from: dlippiel on September 30, 2009, 04:00:11 PM
QuoteDoes anyone else wonder how they can determine the weekly New England D3 poll when the NESCAC teams like Trinity, Williams, etc. just pay themselves?

Another question, how would the NESCAC teams fair against Plymouth State, Curry, Springfield, West Conn State, etc.?  They need to atleast let the NESCAC winner play in the dance.

dlip feels the NESCAC can have their tea and crupits and play in the ****in nose-up corner all they want. When one league chooses to isolate themselves from the rest of the NCAA they deserve ZERO attention regarding any polls period. Very simple  in dlip's mind ;)

This is scary but I couldn't agree more +K to you
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Findtheball

Quote from: Boxer7806 on September 30, 2009, 08:40:05 AM
NLNG

My team affiliation is Bridgewater, saying that I try to keep an objective mind as possible to all the other teams in the conference. For the first time I picked against Bridgewater last week and they beat Maine 40-14. Just goes to show you how much i respected Maine after the run they had last year.

In terms of the Nescac, the overall quality of football in that conference is much higher then the football played in the NEFC. If a middle of the pack NESCAC team joined our leauge, say a Bowdoin or Colby Sawyer, I think they would immediately challenge for the championship similar to Plymouth State's and CGA's arrival in the conference a few years ago. CGA was a perrenial bottom dweller in the Liberty Leauge before they arrived, first two years in the conference they played in the NEFC championship game and gave Curry all they could handle each time.

In terms of playing Springfield, West Conn, or even WPI the games would be much closer. I think if West Conn or WPI would join the NESCAC they would be n the bottom half of the conference. A team like Springfield would fare better depending on the year, but mostly be a middle of the pack team. Just my opinion though.

I would love to see a Husson or Springfield jump on board ,but sorry no room
for the love of the game

Boxer7806

As I do agree with Dlip and the others, but there is no fact denying that the NESCAC has better football then the NEFC. Granted their isolation prevents them from making any headway into the polls but the type of athletes that go to those schools are superior then the athletes in the NEFC. It is not unheard of for a players from the NESCAC to make a NFL training camp, as the Patriots have had some over the years. Most teams from this leauge would fare well in the E8 and LL if you want my honest opinion.

AUPepBand

Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 01, 2009, 08:28:44 AM
As I do agree with Dlip and the others, but there is no fact denying that the NESCAC has better football then the NEFC. Granted their isolation prevents them from making any headway into the polls but the type of athletes that go to those schools are superior then the athletes in the NEFC. It is not unheard of for a players from the NESCAC to make a NFL training camp, as the Patriots have had some over the years. Most teams from this leauge would fare well in the E8 and LL if you want my honest opinion.

Pep would agree. When Hamilton WAS playing Upstate teams, the Continentals seldom found much success, much like their experience to date in the NESCAC. Still, with Stetson there, Hamilton will continue to improve.
On Saxon Warriors! On to Victory!
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PantherPr1de

I like all of the thoughts on that random throught I had.  Does D 1AA recognize Ivy League teams in their polls?  I believe the Ivy teams do play a couple of OOC games, but don't play in the dance.

John McGraw

Quote from: PantherPr1de on October 01, 2009, 02:55:41 PM
I like all of the thoughts on that random throught I had.  Does D 1AA recognize Ivy League teams in their polls?  I believe the Ivy teams do play a couple of OOC games, but don't play in the dance.

Ivy teams are ranked in the FCS polls if they deserve it. I know Harvard was ranked earlier this year before losing to Holy Cross. I think the Crimson are still receiving votes as is Cornell in the Sports Network poll.

The Ivies will play 10 games, seven in the league and then three out-of-conference. Usually the games will come against foes from the northeast, namely the non-scholarship Patriot League.

pumkinattack

What's funny about the occasional random NESCAC discussion is that these boards kind of parallel reality about them.  The NESCAC board is 98% NESCAC posters other than the random who's junk is bigger throwdown.  Basically, no one will ever know because they don't play with others, but I kind of lean on the side that the top two or maybe three teams in the NESCAC can compete, but that beyond that there's a big dropoff each year.  We used to play a JV game with Hamilton when Hobart was a 5-5, 6-4 type team in the mid-late 90's and they would've been beaten by most section 4 (NY) football teams.  At the end of the day, its the same discussion and nothing changes.  They aren't/shouldn't be part of the larger discussion because of the choice that they make. 

vern1

Coast guard over mass maritime 21-14
Curry over Salve 34-21
Nichols over Endicott 13-7
Maine over Westfield 7-6
Plymouth over WNEC 31-12
MIT over Mass Dartmouth 21-6
Bridgewater over Fitchburg 41-21
Framingham over Worcester 34-6

How about we talk about whats going on in the NEFC instead of asking what ifs....