FB: Conference of New England

[HailMary15]

Alright I was dead wrong on that one. What are these NCAA requirements for stadiums? Is there a link to the full list somewhere on this site?

I believe it has to do with seating capacity.

Here is the link to the Preliminary rounds hosting manual.
Hosting

Thanks for the link

[Pat Coleman]

Seating capacity, sufficient press box space, the ability to close the gate to make people pay to attend. Those are the big ones.

[Bombers798891]

Seating capacity, sufficient press box space, the ability to close the gate to make people pay to attend. Those are the big ones.

I know it's not NEFC related, but I've heard this is why Cortland had to travel to IC in the 2nd round of the NCAA's in 1988 despite a H2H win and undefeated record. Although someone said it was more of a safety issue--keeping people off the field was a problem at Cortland's old stadium.

[GBear210]

NEFC All-Stars

Here's a breakdown on the team's All-Stars with their conference records (may be off by one or two players, but close).  Each Division's coach votes their own division.

Any opinions on the treatment WNEC got ?  Their first 6 win season in their 29 year history (6-4).  That's one heck of a Coaching job with only 3 All-Stars !  The Bogan's voted the Mass Maritime Coach, Coach of the Year (3 wins - 5 All-Stars).  BTW - Skip B also awarded Coach of the Year in 2006 .

Bogan Division

Maine Maritime (6-1)      10 All-Stars
Bridgewater State (5-2)   10 All-Stars
Westfield State (5-2)      9 All-Stars
Coast Guard (4-3)          7 All-Stars
Framingham St. (3-4)     6 All-Stars
Fitchburg St. (2-5)          7 All-Stars
Mass Maritime (2-5)       5 All-Stars
Worcester St. (1-6)        2 All-Stars

Boyd Division

Curry (7-0)                     14 All-Stars
Plymouth St. (6-1)          12 All-Stars
WNEC (5-2)                    3 All-Stars <<<<
Salve Regina (3-4)          9 All-Stars
Endicott (3-4)                 7 All-Stars
Nichols (3-4)                  7 All-Stars
MIT (1-6)                       6 All-Stars
UMass Dartmouth (0-7)  0 All-Stars

[Findtheball]

Congrats to all PSU seniors!! you did a hell of a job these past 4 years to turn this program around and put PSU back on the map. You've been great teachers to the young group you leave behind, don't hang your head, you had a great season !!
                                          "nuff said"
                                             NLNG

[D3playsforpassion]

Actually, I second Nolinenoglory's sentiment. 

Congrats to all the seniors that have played their last football game, and those who are in the playoffs.  Most of you have spent four years as true student athletes and that will serve you well as you graduate in the spring and move forward in your life.  The memories you have made on and off the field with your teammates will last a lifetime.

Congrats to the PSU seniors, it has been a pleasure watching you develop over the past few years.  You have made your mark on that program and hopefully your team, and the league will get better and better every year. 

[footballguy32]

For everyone who says NEFC does not play OOC games, they obviously don't know what they are talking about. Some teams have been playing OOC or are starting too. Teams that should have been are the ones that are not.

Endicott has been playing RPI since the first year of football. They have also played teams like Hartwick and WPI, and Plymouth State when they were out of conference.

BSC has played Alfred and Rowan

Salve has been playing OOC since they started playing football and this year played both Hartwick and WPI.

These team are taking the competition Out Of Conference and it seems as if no one has noticed. Do they have a great OOC record? NO, but they are preparing themselves for the season and it will pay off.

I feel like the problem is, the top teams have not played tough out of conference games or any until recently and that gives the conference and bad rap with OOC.

If your going to post please do a little research before coming out and saying that teams don't play OOC.

[Yanks 99]

For everyone who says NEFC does not play OOC games, they obviously don't know what they are talking about. Some teams have been playing OOC or are starting too. Teams that should have been are the ones that are not.

Endicott has been playing RPI since the first year of football. They have also played teams like Hartwick and WPI, and Plymouth State when they were out of conference.

BSC has played Alfred and Rowan

Salve has been playing OOC since they started playing football and this year played both Hartwick and WPI.

These team are taking the competition Out Of Conference and it seems as if no one has noticed. Do they have a great OOC record? NO, but they are preparing themselves for the season and it will pay off.

I feel like the problem is, the top teams have not played tough out of conference games or any until recently and that gives the conference and bad rap with OOC.

If your going to post please do a little research before coming out and saying that teams don't play OOC.

It's tough to notice when you have 16 teams in the league, you play a total of 17 non-conference games as a league, and you have a combined out of conference record of 5-12 with wins over D3 giants like Anna Maria, Becker, Norwich, and Mount Ida (twice).

It's not that people don't know what they are talking about (as you quoted)...its just when presented with the facts, no one really cares...and with a total of 5 OOC wins as a league and playing no really top level teams this year (with the exception of Alfred and Springfield...and even SC is pushing it)...what do you expect???

A little research might have put some of this into perspective...

[footballguy32]

For everyone who says NEFC does not play OOC games, they obviously don't know what they are talking about. Some teams have been playing OOC or are starting too. Teams that should have been are the ones that are not.

Endicott has been playing RPI since the first year of football. They have also played teams like Hartwick and WPI, and Plymouth State when they were out of conference.

BSC has played Alfred and Rowan

Salve has been playing OOC since they started playing football and this year played both Hartwick and WPI.

These team are taking the competition Out Of Conference and it seems as if no one has noticed. Do they have a great OOC record? NO, but they are preparing themselves for the season and it will pay off.

I feel like the problem is, the top teams have not played tough out of conference games or any until recently and that gives the conference and bad rap with OOC.

If your going to post please do a little research before coming out and saying that teams don't play OOC.

It's tough to notice when you have 16 teams in the league, you play a total of 17 non-conference games as a league, and you have a combined out of conference record of 5-12 with wins over D3 giants like Anna Maria, Becker, Norwich, and Mount Ida (twice).

It's not that people don't know what they are talking about (as you quoted)...its just when presented with the facts, no one really cares...and with a total of 5 OOC wins as a league and playing no really top level teams this year (with the exception of Alfred and Springfield...and even SC is pushing it)...what do you expect???

A little research might have put some of this into perspective...

17 non-conference games. Teams are trying to play OOC. Your not going to see a record of 12-5 overnight. My point is that teams are playing OOC. Would you rather see them play the top teams in the east and go 0-17? You have to start somewhere and you can't beat the best, if you havn't beaten the second tier teams.

For someone who seems to have done all the research I figured you would understand my point. I guess I was wrong.

[Yanks 99]

For everyone who says NEFC does not play OOC games, they obviously don't know what they are talking about. Some teams have been playing OOC or are starting too. Teams that should have been are the ones that are not.

Endicott has been playing RPI since the first year of football. They have also played teams like Hartwick and WPI, and Plymouth State when they were out of conference.

BSC has played Alfred and Rowan

Salve has been playing OOC since they started playing football and this year played both Hartwick and WPI.

These team are taking the competition Out Of Conference and it seems as if no one has noticed. Do they have a great OOC record? NO, but they are preparing themselves for the season and it will pay off.

I feel like the problem is, the top teams have not played tough out of conference games or any until recently and that gives the conference and bad rap with OOC.

If your going to post please do a little research before coming out and saying that teams don't play OOC.

It's tough to notice when you have 16 teams in the league, you play a total of 17 non-conference games as a league, and you have a combined out of conference record of 5-12 with wins over D3 giants like Anna Maria, Becker, Norwich, and Mount Ida (twice).

It's not that people don't know what they are talking about (as you quoted)...its just when presented with the facts, no one really cares...and with a total of 5 OOC wins as a league and playing no really top level teams this year (with the exception of Alfred and Springfield...and even SC is pushing it)...what do you expect???

A little research might have put some of this into perspective...

17 non-conference games. Teams are trying to play OOC. Your not going to see a record of 12-5 overnight. My point is that teams are playing OOC. Would you rather see them play the top teams in the east and go 0-17? You have to start somewhere and you can't beat the best, if you havn't beaten the second tier teams.

For someone who seems to have done all the research I figured you would understand my point. I guess I was wrong.

I get it...but you are taking the "for everyone who says NEFC does not play OOC games, they obviously don't know what they are talking about" a bit too literally.  Most of us actually understand the NEFC does play OOC games...but it averages to barely over 1 OOC game per NEFC team for the entire year.  I concede...one is higher then zero.

The other part of that is the fact that out of those 17 OOC games total, no one really played any powerhouses...Alfred being the exception.  So when someone says you played no one...it is probably in reference to each NEFC team playing about one OOC game and the fact that almost none of those games were exceptionally difficult.

[nefan]

A couple of things about OOC games- 1)Travel is not easy for teams w/o money- most schools do not stay overnight at Away games and costs are tight in most of the athletic dept's in the conf (not all).. 2) Scheduling is not an easy things with conf dates etc. That is why it is easier to play a NEFC team- Similar dates, also some coaches will not play some programs, for many reasons, etc.

[Yanks 99]

A couple of things about OOC games- 1)Travel is not easy for teams w/o money- most schools do not stay overnight at Away games and costs are tight in most of the athletic dept's in the conf (not all).. 2) Scheduling is not an easy things with conf dates etc. That is why it is easier to play a NEFC team- Similar dates, also some coaches will not play some programs, for many reasons, etc.

I completely understand about the whole travel thing...you see a lot of teams in the East going to 9 games.  I think people actually understand that point.  I also think that you guys are an easy target though...as you almost isolate yourselves like the NESCAC.  Obviously not to that extreme.  But when your 16 team league plays a total of 17 OOC games and against hardly anyone that registers as a blip on the radar screen as a tough team...you are going to get criticized a bit.  Clearly, your top team (Curry) has made a bit of a dent in recent years in the playoffs...but beyond that the perception of your league is weak, and until the league starts playing more and better OOC teams and doing at least marginally well, it will probably continue to have that perception.  Just the way it is...nothing personal.

[dlippiel]

A couple of things about OOC games- 1)Travel is not easy for teams w/o money- most schools do not stay overnight at Away games and costs are tight in most of the athletic dept's in the conf (not all).. 2) Scheduling is not an easy things with conf dates etc. That is why it is easier to play a NEFC team- Similar dates, also some coaches will not play some programs, for many reasons, etc.

I completely understand about the whole travel thing...you see a lot of teams in the East going to 9 games.  I think people actually understand that point.  I also think that you guys are an easy target though...as you almost isolate yourselves like the NESCAC.  Obviously not to that extreme.  But when your 16 team league plays a total of 17 OOC games and against hardly anyone that registers as a blip on the radar screen as a tough team...you are going to get criticized a bit.  Clearly, your top team (Curry) has made a bit of a dent in recent years in the playoffs...but beyond that the perception of your league is weak, and until the league starts playing more and better OOC teams and doing at least marginally well, it will probably continue to have that perception.  Just the way it is...nothing personal.

Here goes Yanks again. dlip pokes at him on a previous board and then, "poof" he makes a solid post that dlip agrees with 100%. Good post Yanks.

[footballguy32]

Rumor has it that a couple NEFC coaches have expressed interest in the Wesleyan U Job. Does anyone think they have a chance.

Will there be any coaching changes before next season?

[footballguy32]

I know it's early but any predictions on how the league will shape up in 2010?